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On January 03 2011 16:32 Askesis wrote:
The thing I don't get is why is everybody hating on RandomGuy for essentially telling the truth? John is not a great translator. Fact. There are people that can do the job better than he can. Fact. I do not know RandomGuy so I have no idea if he is one of those people than can do the job better or not.
Why are prople acting like RandomGuy did something inappropriate, and at the same time praising Tasteless? If anybody did anything wrong, it was Tasteless. He is a so-called professional and has standards to uphold, whereas RandomGuy is a random guy. If RandomGuy's actions were unacceptable (which I don't thinl they were), then Tasteless's actions CERTAINLY were unacceptable.
If calling someone out to their face one on one is unacceptable, how can people think that calling someone out behind their back to a worldwide audience is acceptable? But don't let logic and reason get in the way of your fanboyism.
Yes John started out rough but he has improved greatly after season 1. It's his first time working as a translator or being on camera, it was understandable that it took him some time to get used to it. Random guy couldn't even choose the right words to ask for a job, how well do you think he could translate on camera if he can't even ask for a job politely...
Nobody is 'acting' like random guy did something inappropriate, the guy admitted it was.
Tasteless didn't call anyone out, he told a brief story about a random anonymous guy that nobody knows as a warning to others to be cool when they meet the crew.
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Just for fun I combined the two stories.
+ Show Spoiler +
I summoned all my courage to go down to the studio, but when I came face-to-face with Tasteless, of whom I had been a fan for years, along with John himself, I got nervous, and I choked. I blanked out and forgot what I practiced to say. I knew I was going to be forever mad at myself if I never tried, though, so I forced myself to stutter out something along the lines of what I had meant to ask.
Tasteless: So we're in the studio, uh, it was like last season and some guy comes up to us, he goes "hi, uh...", and John's there with me, he goes "I... just wanna point something out". And we're like "Oh ok, yeah sure go ahead". And he's like "I noticed that sometimes... in the interviews, uh, John has made... small errors... in translation... and... uh... I wanna know if I can do it".
Tasteless: Uhhhhh no, person we don't know, heh. John does a perfectly fine job and he works very hard.
But boy, was I wrong. Turns out John isn't some producer who happens to speak English. On the other hand, what I had asked them, was, in fact, to take over John's whole job. All signs had been pointing to the fact for weeks, but I, with a mind clouded by high hopes, failed to recognize them. And for what seems to be the millionth time in my barely-average life, I not only managed to sound like an idiot, but also a total dick.
On January 03 2011 16:32 Askesis wrote:
The thing I don't get is why is everybody hating on RandomGuy for essentially telling the truth?
Putting aside all "fanboyism", it is not cool to ask to take over someones job while they are standing right there. Some people find that insulting and disrespectful, regardless of it being true or not.
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As far as I'm concerned, the guy sounds pretty desperate and Tasteless did something a bit rude.
I wonder how this guy could easily get in the studio and walk up to tasteless and john. If this is the fact, I want to live somewhere I can casually walk into companies or government buildings. Would save a lot of time 
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On January 03 2011 17:40 Eluadyl wrote:I wonder how this guy could easily get in the studio and walk up to tasteless and john. If this is the fact, I want to live somewhere I can casually walk into companies or government buildings. Would save a lot of time
Do you not watch the GSL at all? They welcome an audience to every show and are very casual.
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I don't understand why people are defending John, fact is, he's bad at he's job. Simple as that. So someone walks up and says he can do the job better? so what? welcome to the real world...
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Well he ran the risk of people flaming him, welcome to the real world...
edit: oh and they defend John cause they like him.
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Can we just get a close on this thread please? >.>
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Jon isnt bad at his work at all and his rough times in season 1 were just because he was nervous.
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On January 03 2011 16:26 fearus wrote:
Guys, super daniel man vs idra, is all I have to say to see how stupid this whole 'drama' is.
Oh god, that was so terrible...
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You guys need to stop being so hyper sensitive.
First of all, Tasteless did nothing wrong. He told a story about some guy openly offending a friend and a person that people are fans of in the community. Note, the most important thing here is, he DID NOT give this guys name or screen name. The guy was completely anonymous. If he did call the guy out directly, then I would think that was pretty low, but he didn't.
The only reason we know who this guy is, is because he, HIMSELF, said it was. Don't publicly apologize. No one knew it was you. You don't need to apologize to us. You just come off as a drama queen. Apologize to Tasteless and John in private. That is a real apology.
Also, no offense, but to all the people who are giving this guy props for saying he was sorry, I don't understand you. You don't get points for doing something you are supposed to do. Especially if you decide to give an attention seeking, long winded one over two forums.
You say that you were really nervous and what you said wasn't exactly what you meant. You sound socially awkward and not comfortable in front of people in high stress situations. You would probably be pretty bad at John's job.
Next time, I would recommend you go through the proper channels to apply for a job, or at least be a bit more polite and tactful.
Don't take any of this as an attack on you, just my opinion.
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Tasteless accepted the apology on air. Drama over!
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What a champ Tasteless! accepted apology and gave one back. Respect mate.
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I knew Tasteless would forgive you.
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Well, Tasteless just admitted it was a misunderstanding and that he and John aren't mad.
Case closed.
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tasteless just accepted the apology on the stream. case closed.
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Tasteless just accepted the apologize.
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Tasteless just accepted the apology from "random guy" on air after the zenith game
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awww that was so cute
<3 the sc2 community!!!
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UPDATE:
Tasteless just mentioned this whole thing again on the gom stream. Said it was no problem, he accpeted the apology. John and Tasteless aren't actually mad at him and are sorry for the miss understanding.
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Tasteless accepted the apology. They stated that they arent mad at the guy and even apologized themselves for the misunderstanding. Story is concluded
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