EPTOn January 03 2011 11:42 ffz wrote:
Tasteless basically did the same thing this guy did to get his job...
Tasteless basically did the same thing this guy did to get his job...
I like how you just made that statement out of thin air.
Response by Random guy to Tasteless John Rant - Page 12
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fearus
China2164 Posts
I like how you just made that statement out of thin air. | ||
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
Do we care? Not really. Does it even matter? Probably not. Still, quite unprofessional. | ||
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iMBA
United States20 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:51 fearus wrote: I like how you just made that statement out of thin air. "Tasteless found himself with nothing to do, but noticed that the official caster lacked skill when it came to casting Starcraft. Nick approached the staff and asked if he could help with the casting and after overcoming the first wave of hesitation from the staff he was allowed to cast the games." (first time casting a big event) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Tasteless Uhhh... he didn't? But the circumstances were pretty different, John did his job well (from what i could tell) and no replacing was really needed, and Tasteless never asked for money / to have a job, just asked to help out because he was bored. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:51 fearus wrote: I like how you just made that statement out of thin air. I don't undersand this criticism. That analogy isn't too far off. Seriously though, if Tasteless brough flash to sc2 people would be writing threads about how tasteless broke sc2. The guy remained completely anonymous up until he posted something with his handle on a public forum. | ||
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SayfT
Australia298 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:11 Anima4 wrote: I don't think anyone should say anything about this topic until they've actually seen the VOD where Tasteless mentions the random guy. if you actually listen to his tone of voice you can tell it is clearly a joke. I am getting the feeling that many people here are reading what Tasteless said and are assuming he was trying to be mean. you need to look at both sides of the story. last night I listened to tasteless mention some random guy and talking about being human, I laughed pretty hard at that point in time. now I wake up to read the random guy's post and I feel sorry for him, but only because I know a little bit more about him and we have seen a different perspective of what happened. don't let this spiral into something that it shouldn't be. If you listen to Tasteless's tone of voice when he was paraphrasing the event, it was clear that he is mocking the guy by doing the sharp stops between each word. Either way, was it unprofessional? was he in the wrong? or was the guy that approached Tastless in the wrong? it is hard to say as none of us were there when it happened. Never the less it looks like the guy felt very bad and he had good intentions but messed it all up due to nervousness, he apologised and that takes balls. I personally think it was low form attacking someone like that on live tv/stream without them being able to defend themselves, but then again Tasteless didn't know the full story either, if he knew of the guy's true intentions I doubt he would slander him like he did. | ||
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ffz
United States490 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:51 fearus wrote: I like how you just made that statement out of thin air. sorry i guess i forgot to link to actual proof but i thought it was common knowledge how tasteless got his first casting gig. | ||
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Essentia
1150 Posts
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Now lets all put this in perspective of the super daniel man vs idra rant, that was an actual rant, this is just a joke. | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On January 03 2011 09:54 phuzi0n wrote:From Tasteless/John's perspective some random guy came up and disrespected John and wanted to steal his job. Even if John's job wasn't translating and he was terrible, you would not go up to him and say "you suck, can I do it?" It's funny because that's basically what Tasteless did to start his casting career. I'm not taking sides or whatever, just pointing out the irony. edit: ninja'd by like a page | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
On January 03 2011 12:00 Essentia wrote: if he was so embarrassed why didnt he just remain anonymous? Why would u make a huge post saying YAAA IM THAT RANDOM GUY WOW IT WAS ME!!! Why point more attention to yourself if you truly were so hurt by it? Because he couldn't get it out of his mind and had trouble sleeping? | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:42 ffz wrote: Tasteless basically did the same thing this guy did to get his job... That's a great point (although I don't know if Tasteless put someone out of work.) | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
Still, should he have gone up to them and say that he can do a better job than John in front of his face? I think it was pretty rude even if he thought John was a producer and I definitely would've been upset if I were in John's position. However, he did say that he was really nervous meeting Tasteless in person for the first time and everyone makes mistakes. He did the right thing by writing this apology. Yes, he could've tried to apologize privately, but Tasteless did make this public and I'm sure this guy also wanted to vindicate himself to everyone who had heard of this incident. He is extremely polite to both Tasteless and John in his apology post and repeatedly admits that he should not have done what he did. Tasteless also should not have mocked him in front of so many viewers all over the world and it'd be nice for him to make a short apology during his next cast. Surprised to hear that John was indeed hired as a professional translator by GOMtv though. It's true that he's made a big improvement after helping with numerous interviews, but you'd think GOMtv would look for someone who can immediately do the job at the professional level rather than someone who would initially struggle and slowly improve to that point. While his English to Korean has always been pretty good, his Korean to English often had little mistranslations or left out things during the first couple of GSL and I remember he even had problems translating some unit names. In any case, like I said already, he was much better during GSL3 and I don't have any problem with him continuing to translate at this point. He seems like a pretty likable guy, and I wish him a good career at GOMtv. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
Whatever the problem, whosever fault it was, it's all good now. (Assuming tastosis/john accept this, which I'm sure they will). No more hard feelings, hopefully  Hurray for no flaming or such tho. Giving a shout out in the stream might have been a bad idea, but I think they were feeling offended too, and probably tried to make it like a amusing story at first, but perhaps their hard feelings took over and it sounded like a diss (Tastosis). Edit: let me clarify my view. Not major props, but props for him doing what was right. Apologizing like this is to make up for one's fault, and don't deserve or command special praise. Not to sound harsh but to sound frank here. Also, you can tell he probably didn't just write this up ASAP and post it. I like this for that. It seems to have care in the quality of writing. The only part I would change immediately is the ending. He should switch the order of "I'm sorry" and "I'm an idiot", or at least cut out the "I'm an idiot" part. Although I'm sure he meant to try to get it as clear as possible that he knows he made a big mistake, it shows immaturity in the situation, because he's making himself look sort of... inferior. But we're all human so he shouldn't have said that. And about Tastosis' reaction on the stream. Ok from what I've read, it seems they did outright diss him. That's unprofessional, if true. | ||
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SweetNJoshSauce
United States468 Posts
On January 03 2011 08:15 goldfishs wrote: Yea, listen here. There are three steps 1. Fucking up. 2. Apologizing. 3. Forgiveness. Clearly you need to take a serious look on step 3, cause it's wankers like you who spreads that cold and unfriendly chill wherever you go. I never said he shouldn't be forgiven, and I agree with your cute little list. I'm just saying Nick is being demonized here for telling this story on air and I think It's ridiculous. I don't care how socially awkward or nervous you are, if you fail to use common sense(especially when talking to someone you want to get a job with), what do you really expect? They talk about all sorts of random shit on air, what makes you think this would be off limits? | ||
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phuzi0n
United States308 Posts
On January 03 2011 12:14 OnFiRe888 wrote: Lol I wonder what day9 is thinking right now. Nothing about this because he's smart enough to know to stay off the forums. This whole thing is ridiculous, nothing of any significance happened. A guy made an ass out of himself by choosing his words poorly/getting starstruck and then Tasteless briefly mentioned it and warned people not to be like that guy when they come meet the crew. | ||
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Kittenlisk
Australia34 Posts
It's really hard to judge without knowing the full story, I expect many times people ask retarded things of them, but this time someone insulted John and they love John. Everyone fucking loves John! Maybe it was unprofessional, but frankly who gives a fuck, I want casters that are human and act human, not robots. Showing slight rage at a massive diss on your friend when you see every day the immense amount of work he puts in is an acceptable reaction. And in hindsight it caused the guy to apologize, which lets us put this retarded matter behind us. Edit: For those curious on how Nick got his job go watch day9 daily #100, it is explained there and you can clearly see it is not the same as this guy. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
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jacksonlee
175 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:51 fearus wrote: I like how you just made that statement out of thin air. nope, far from thin air, just admit you were wrong and didn't know how tasteless got his first gig | ||
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photomuse
United States102 Posts
On January 03 2011 13:12 TheRPGAddict wrote: Bad moves by both parties kind of. Honestly though I think Tasteless was more in the wrong for bringing it up, I mean he did not accomplish anything but make that guy feel terrible about himself. I dont understand how people can be defending Tasteless on this issue. Tasteless wasn't "more in the wrong" for bringing it up. It would have been better to have a better context, but it wasn't really wrong, just a bit awkward in the context of the stream. I feel like tasteless accomplished preventing other imbalanced and misguided people from doing similar stupid things. I don't understand how people are trying to lynch tasteless on this issue. "Oh no, he hurt someone's feelings"...guess what...that person deserves whatever he gets. And being called out *anonymously* can't hurt that much. | ||
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