EPTResponse by Random guy to Tasteless John Rant - Page 13
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
| ||
|
Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
Props to him for coming forward. I would totally accept his apology if I was John or Tastless and tell him thanks. Of course hes not going to get the job, but to clear his guilt is more than worth it. | ||
|
TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
 | ||
|
avidday04
United States63 Posts
| ||
|
longdivision
United States170 Posts
On January 03 2011 13:41 photomuse wrote: Tasteless wasn't "more in the wrong" for bringing it up. It would have been better to have a better context, but it wasn't really wrong, just a bit awkward in the context of the stream. I feel like tasteless accomplished preventing other imbalanced and misguided people from doing similar stupid things. I don't understand how people are trying to lynch tasteless on this issue. "Oh no, he hurt someone's feelings"...guess what...that person deserves whatever he gets. And being called out *anonymously* can't hurt that much. This wouldn't be a big deal if people weren't bending over backwards to defend Tasteless. To compare criticism of someone's comments to "lynch"ing someone is ridiculous, but I'm sure you already knew that. Calling the guy out for saying he could do better than John and for suggesting John should be replaced is fine. But to go out of his way to publicly mock the guy for being socially awkward and "not human" is something I'd be disappointed to hear anyone do. | ||
|
Dugrok
Canada377 Posts
| ||
|
KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On January 03 2011 03:33 Piledriver wrote: TBH, what happens behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors. Tasteless was way out of line when he went about dissing a person who wasnt even there to defend himself. If a guy acts like a dick, you tell it to his face instead of going off on a rant in public without the said person being around. My $0.02. LoL, I wish there were more people like you in American Politics | ||
|
DrakeFZX3
United States925 Posts
The anonymous person who went about this admitted he was in the wrong for going up to Tasteless and John and telling them especially to John's face, that he was making errors and that he (the anonymous) could do a better job. And from the sounds of it, he was pretty awkward and it came off sounding pretty dickish and disrespectful and he admitted it. Lastly, Tasteless doesn't have anything to apologize for. It's pretty obvious Tasteless told that anecdote not intending to call people out but rather warn of doing something like that in the future. These guys are cool guys to talk to, but if you come at them in the manner that the anonymous person did, it's not gonna bode well. Just that simple. | ||
|
iSiN
United States1075 Posts
Granted he probably could have phoned them and john obviously has more expertise than the caster that nick took over for. I think the whole story is coated in bad taste. Hopefully it blows over and maybe this bad press gets the "guy" working for gom. Sounds like he deserves it for how hard his working career has been. | ||
|
klauz619
453 Posts
On January 03 2011 11:56 iMBA wrote: "Tasteless found himself with nothing to do, but noticed that the official caster lacked skill when it came to casting Starcraft. Nick approached the staff and asked if he could help with the casting and after overcoming the first wave of hesitation from the staff he was allowed to cast the games." (first time casting a big event) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Tasteless Uhhh... he didn't? But the circumstances were pretty different, John did his job well (from what i could tell) and no replacing was really needed, and Tasteless never asked for money / to have a job, just asked to help out because he was bored. Tasteless offered to help and didn't tell the casters they were shit and they should hire him. | ||
|
MostDifferent
Norway124 Posts
Do you people actually think that WCG actually fired someone when nick got that gig? - | ||
|
Sanjuro
Indonesia252 Posts
| ||
|
Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On January 03 2011 14:52 iSiN wrote: I kind of agree with this "guy" mostly because tasteless did the same thing to get into casting. Maybe the way he went about it is construed by he said she said but seriously. He saw someone that was doing a job he felt he was better qualified to do. EXACTLY LIKE NICK DID. I am kind of saddened by the need to bash this guy in front of thousands of viewers D: Granted he probably could have phoned them and john obviously has more expertise than the caster that nick took over for. I think the whole story is coated in bad taste. Hopefully it blows over and maybe this bad press gets the "guy" working for gom. Sounds like he deserves it for how hard his working career has been. I'm sure Nick went up TO THE CASTER HIMSELF (like this guy did) and straight up TOLD HIM that he KNEW he could do better. How unintelligent can one get? | ||
|
koslain
United States70 Posts
| ||
|
Shaada
New Zealand14 Posts
| ||
|
fearus
China2164 Posts
| ||
|
annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
I think tasteless was kind of a dick to call it out on the stream, I mean it took a lot of courage for that guy to go down to the station and basically ask for a job the way he did. At the same time it's really cool Tasteless would stand up for John like that, in the end it comes out a wash, everyone sort of screwed up and everyone got a little bit better (you shouldn't really be looking for a "television" job if you get nervous in front of people, but it's cool you had the balls to go for what you wanted and for tasteless, calling the guy out vs. standing up for your boy). Nice Story. | ||
|
Avid221
United States63 Posts
On January 03 2011 16:08 MostDifferent wrote: So you people are actually comparing Tasteless helping out with casting at what was probably a multi game event, where they just took someone from one of the other games to cast SC.. to a guy showing up at someone job and telling them they could do it better and they should hire him instead??? Do you people actually think that WCG actually fired someone when nick got that gig? - This. This "guy" went up to someone who currently holds a position and his friend, and straight up told them he thought he could do a better job and that he wanted to replace him. I am pretty sure most people in this situation would take offense to something like that. I have watched the VOD and I don't detect any hate for the person in any way. Tasteless was merely just telling a story about a weird thing that happened to him. Asking to help and stating one is superior are two very different things. | ||
|
Askesis
216 Posts
Why are prople acting like RandomGuy did something inappropriate, and at the same time praising Tasteless? If anybody did anything wrong, it was Tasteless. He is a so-called professional and has standards to uphold, whereas RandomGuy is a random guy. If RandomGuy's actions were unacceptable (which I don't thinl they were), then Tasteless's actions CERTAINLY were unacceptable. If calling someone out to their face one on one is unacceptable, how can people think that calling someone out behind their back to a worldwide audience is acceptable? But don't let logic and reason get in the way of your fanboyism. | ||
|
phuzi0n
United States308 Posts
The only similarity between the way Nick started and what this random guy did is that they both asked to do it. Nick was in the tournament and got knocked out (by Sean no less!) and then asked if he could help cast. Nick wasn't some random guy nobody knew and he probably asked more politely. Also Nick co-casted, I don't think there's any room for a co-translator. Also on the topic of "being human," this guy basically said "you're making small mistakes and I want to replace you" and Nick was basically saying "humans make mistakes." The guy came off as overly harsh by asking for the job because John makes small mistakes which can't be avoided by any translator. | ||
| ||
