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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 02 2011 22:02 GMT
#181
On January 03 2011 06:34 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 05:34 Lennon wrote:
Just realised this has turned into a Moon vs Grubby fanboy shitstorm.
I feel like I'm on SK-Gaming forums all over again.
So true... Can't we just agree that they both are fucking amazing wc3 players.

First reasonable post since 2 pages back.

Geez
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 02 2011 22:02 GMT
#182
On January 03 2011 06:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I don't think there's anything particularly difficult about this. Everyone is practicing different amounts of time due to different commitments and levels of interest. Just because Grubby's reason is being a progamer at another game doesn't make him special. If he plays 4 hours of sc2 a day and 4 hours of wc3 a day, he can get top 3 in major tournaments in both as long as he's talented. If he does relatively poorly at sc2, I hope no one makes any excuses for him :o


I wonder though. It's not just the time, it's that playing two different games which require different strategies, mechanics and thought processes might be a difficult balance. I don't know! I look forward to seeing how he does.
:O
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 02 2011 22:04 GMT
#183
he's only a hybrid player as long as there are wc3 tournaments to play ^^
Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
January 02 2011 22:15 GMT
#184
I am just wondering how do you get back to War3 after a quick session of SC2. I played WC3 for 8 years and after a few months of SC2 I can't even remember an opening. WC3 and SC2 are the complete oposites and the only thing in common between these games is the interface. Having said that I wish Grubby the best of luck in SC2 and I hope he becomes among the best players of this game. After all if there is a non-Korean player I would root for till the end, that's Grubby. I just remembered all the good times I had watching this guy play .
Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
January 02 2011 22:35 GMT
#185
Orc player in wc3!!! GRUBBY HFGHTING
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
January 02 2011 22:45 GMT
#186
On January 03 2011 06:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I don't think there's anything particularly difficult about this. Everyone is practicing different amounts of time due to different commitments and levels of interest. Just because Grubby's reason is being a progamer at another game doesn't make him special. If he plays 4 hours of sc2 a day and 4 hours of wc3 a day, he can get top 3 in major tournaments in both as long as he's talented. If he does relatively poorly at sc2, I hope no one makes any excuses for him :o



haha, you say that just because you don't play that much and can rape most people. But I wonder if you (or Grubby, for exemple), played like 8h a day, how would it be?
nathangonmad
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom317 Posts
January 03 2011 01:18 GMT
#187
I really hope Grubby is successful in Sc2. I really loved watching him in Wc3. But one things for sure, hes gonna have insane micro.
Keep trying Leenock
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
January 03 2011 01:29 GMT
#188
On January 03 2011 07:15 Inex wrote:
I am just wondering how do you get back to War3 after a quick session of SC2. I played WC3 for 8 years and after a few months of SC2 I can't even remember an opening. WC3 and SC2 are the complete oposites and the only thing in common between these games is the interface. Having said that I wish Grubby the best of luck in SC2 and I hope he becomes among the best players of this game. After all if there is a non-Korean player I would root for till the end, that's Grubby. I just remembered all the good times I had watching this guy play .


Moon and Lyn are doing it well enough to have reached Open GSL2 so I doubt a player of similar caliber has trouble switching between the games. Playing games at that level for so long probably gives you an edge.

I hope to see more of Grubby I always loved his Orc playstyle in WC3 and can't wait to see how he does in SC2.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
January 03 2011 01:30 GMT
#189
So far just about every amazing wc3/sc1 player has been pretty disappointing in sc2 so I don't expect to see Grubby winning gsl or anything.
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
January 03 2011 01:32 GMT
#190
On January 03 2011 10:18 nathangonmad wrote:
I really hope Grubby is successful in Sc2. I really loved watching him in Wc3. But one things for sure, hes gonna have insane micro.


The idea that WC3 players have super amazing micro is completely false as far as I have seen. I refuse to believe that anybody on the planet has micro as good as Jaedong, not to mention his macro.
I didn't see anything out of the ordinary from Moon in the GSL.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 03 2011 01:34 GMT
#191
On January 03 2011 10:30 Xolo wrote:
So far just about every amazing wc3/sc1 player has been pretty disappointing in sc2 so I don't expect to see Grubby winning gsl or anything.


The most amazing SC1 players are still playing BW, the less amazing ones have won all GSL's
I think esports is pretty nice.
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
January 03 2011 01:44 GMT
#192
On January 03 2011 10:34 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 10:30 Xolo wrote:
So far just about every amazing wc3/sc1 player has been pretty disappointing in sc2 so I don't expect to see Grubby winning gsl or anything.


The most amazing SC1 players are still playing BW, the less amazing ones have won all GSL's


I never really followed the sc scene but I'm almost certain that Boxer and Nada were supposed to be some of the best sc1 players, and while they're obviously not doing completely horrible in sc2, they're not dominating by any mean.
GeneticToss
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada188 Posts
January 03 2011 02:03 GMT
#193
Boxer and Nada (even moreso for Boxer) aren't at their prime anymore.
Also I think it's to early to judge players like Moon and Lyn like I have said earlier.

As for the Grubby vs Moon, it's like fighting over Bryant vs James or Manning vs Brady, let's just say they are both good and keep it at that.
nFo on KGS
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 03 2011 02:05 GMT
#194
On January 03 2011 06:26 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 05:31 Lennon wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 nGBeast wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:02 hewtrain wrote:
ban inc but i dont give a shit
On January 01 2011 08:09 travis wrote:


did you wake up on the wrong side of the fucking bed? every single post you made in this thread you sound like a fucking whining asshat, i dont give a shit how many posts you have, you are a fucking douche..

P.S
On January 01 2011 07:38 ffz wrote:
Stop with this bs aobut "one of the greatest ever in wc3". He is THE greatest... His micro and macro are both so amazing. Plus his mind is made for strategy.


get a clue
+ Show Spoiler +
Moon



are you serious? Grubby has been the most consistent WC3 player of all time. Moon has only a few top finishes in the big tourneys in the last 2 year, and the last was NGL One where he came in 1st, his last good 1st place finish was IEF in 2008, pretty much the end of his good streak.


Oh man... /facepalm.

Moon has been on top level since 2002 which is longer than Grubby. He's one of the most consistent players since the beginning and he's in the top 5 for winning the most amount of prize money which doesn't even include money from sponsorship deals and contracts.



/facepalm

TFT has only been out since 2003, and he started playing in 03, so check your dates broski. Grubby has been the best player when orc was considered the weakest race also, while night elf is the only race that was never considered weak. Grubby and Moon both started around the same time.


There were RoC tournaments too.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
January 03 2011 03:19 GMT
#195
On January 03 2011 11:05 Lennon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 06:26 nGBeast wrote:
On January 03 2011 05:31 Lennon wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 nGBeast wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:02 hewtrain wrote:
ban inc but i dont give a shit
On January 01 2011 08:09 travis wrote:


did you wake up on the wrong side of the fucking bed? every single post you made in this thread you sound like a fucking whining asshat, i dont give a shit how many posts you have, you are a fucking douche..

P.S
On January 01 2011 07:38 ffz wrote:
Stop with this bs aobut "one of the greatest ever in wc3". He is THE greatest... His micro and macro are both so amazing. Plus his mind is made for strategy.


get a clue
+ Show Spoiler +
Moon



are you serious? Grubby has been the most consistent WC3 player of all time. Moon has only a few top finishes in the big tourneys in the last 2 year, and the last was NGL One where he came in 1st, his last good 1st place finish was IEF in 2008, pretty much the end of his good streak.


Oh man... /facepalm.

Moon has been on top level since 2002 which is longer than Grubby. He's one of the most consistent players since the beginning and he's in the top 5 for winning the most amount of prize money which doesn't even include money from sponsorship deals and contracts.



/facepalm

TFT has only been out since 2003, and he started playing in 03, so check your dates broski. Grubby has been the best player when orc was considered the weakest race also, while night elf is the only race that was never considered weak. Grubby and Moon both started around the same time.


There were RoC tournaments too.



RoC and TFT are 2 WAY different games with different unit cost, units and build all together, so no, they don't count.
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 03:29:06
January 03 2011 03:25 GMT
#196
Just to clear up that ridiculous argument: Moon is the best Warcraft III player of all time. He has by far the most achievements, there is no comparison. Anyone who tells you that Grubby is better has no knowledge of WC3 at all. Grubby is however generally considered the second best.

On January 03 2011 10:32 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 10:18 nathangonmad wrote:
I really hope Grubby is successful in Sc2. I really loved watching him in Wc3. But one things for sure, hes gonna have insane micro.


The idea that WC3 players have super amazing micro is completely false as far as I have seen. I refuse to believe that anybody on the planet has micro as good as Jaedong, not to mention his macro.
I didn't see anything out of the ordinary from Moon in the GSL.


Absolutely baseless opinion, nothing else.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 03 2011 03:29 GMT
#197
No more moon vs grubby please...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 03 2011 04:19 GMT
#198
On January 03 2011 10:44 Xolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 10:34 Saechiis wrote:
On January 03 2011 10:30 Xolo wrote:
So far just about every amazing wc3/sc1 player has been pretty disappointing in sc2 so I don't expect to see Grubby winning gsl or anything.


The most amazing SC1 players are still playing BW, the less amazing ones have won all GSL's


I never really followed the sc scene but I'm almost certain that Boxer and Nada were supposed to be some of the best sc1 players, and while they're obviously not doing completely horrible in sc2, they're not dominating by any mean.


They were the best SC1 players years and years ago.
:O
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 03 2011 04:21 GMT
#199
On January 03 2011 12:19 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 11:05 Lennon wrote:
On January 03 2011 06:26 nGBeast wrote:
On January 03 2011 05:31 Lennon wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 nGBeast wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:02 hewtrain wrote:
ban inc but i dont give a shit
On January 01 2011 08:09 travis wrote:


did you wake up on the wrong side of the fucking bed? every single post you made in this thread you sound like a fucking whining asshat, i dont give a shit how many posts you have, you are a fucking douche..

P.S
On January 01 2011 07:38 ffz wrote:
Stop with this bs aobut "one of the greatest ever in wc3". He is THE greatest... His micro and macro are both so amazing. Plus his mind is made for strategy.


get a clue
+ Show Spoiler +
Moon



are you serious? Grubby has been the most consistent WC3 player of all time. Moon has only a few top finishes in the big tourneys in the last 2 year, and the last was NGL One where he came in 1st, his last good 1st place finish was IEF in 2008, pretty much the end of his good streak.


Oh man... /facepalm.

Moon has been on top level since 2002 which is longer than Grubby. He's one of the most consistent players since the beginning and he's in the top 5 for winning the most amount of prize money which doesn't even include money from sponsorship deals and contracts.



/facepalm

TFT has only been out since 2003, and he started playing in 03, so check your dates broski. Grubby has been the best player when orc was considered the weakest race also, while night elf is the only race that was never considered weak. Grubby and Moon both started around the same time.


There were RoC tournaments too.



RoC and TFT are 2 WAY different games with different unit cost, units and build all together, so no, they don't count.


Regardless of your opinion, there were RoC tournaments in which Moon was successful in.
That's similar to saying all pro gamer success during SC2: Wings of Liberty didn't count when Heart of the Swarm is released.
Silver_Thor
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
January 03 2011 04:28 GMT
#200
first time poster but been following TeamLiquid.net since Starcraft 2 release....just wanted to say GL to Grubby, i understand the differences between WC3 and SC2 but feel someone with his talent if he wants to be a top player in both games he will find a way to do so and that the one thing this thread has proven is all eyes will be on him come February....no pressure
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