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On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics,
Someone doesn't understand how data transmission works. Hint: It may be you.
Unfortunately a high ping is something you just have to deal with. I usually find I have a lot more success in doing stutter-step micro if I rightclick move -> a-move the ground behind their army, as the time it takes for me to get my mouse cursor from the move position to the a-move position usually gives my marines/marauders time to fire. Some goes for any race, really.
Edit: In contrast to the Right Click move -> press H (or s) tactic.
People who are saying it's unplayable though are pretty wrong, 200 ping is a disadvantage but it's not a "you might as well stop playing" one.
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Don't play in NA? It's not like anybody says anything, anyway.
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On December 27 2010 09:27 Rampager wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics, Someone doesn't understand how data transmission works. Hint: It may be you.
Anyone who plays in the NA server with 200 ping wanna play? PM me here lets practice other aspects of the game.
Going to bed I'll add/play with you guys later.
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On December 27 2010 09:27 DeltruS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:22 Levistus wrote:
It's not lag guys it's latency cause the NA server is far from my country. My connection routes to the USA and other countries before getting to SEA that's why NA is better for me. Blizzard is the host so I don't affect my opponents. I guess I'll just have to accept that ISPs suck in my country. It would actually go straight to the sea server and back.
No it does not because Australia has very poor connections to Asia by broadband. Most Asian traffic is routed through the US and there is nothing that we can really do about it.
Incidentally, I play on NA because I get better ping.
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Oh and OP, don't choose zerg because:
a) speedling/baneling wars in zvz are a nightmare with any latency
b) you will rage after losing a whole flock of mutalisks to thor fire that you have microed away from but have lost because the ping sent them to their deaths.
c) fending off early harass is harder with bad ping.
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On December 27 2010 09:04 MegaBUD wrote:Wont fix his problem.... SC2 use UDP. Fix your lag...
Actually, I'm pretty certain it uses TCP ( it makes sense).
In the Battle.net help guide it says that it uses 1119 TCP port, and the 1119 UDP port but fof voice chat. So that tool might do something.
Also, if you're using a wirelesss connection, then it's likey you're lagging a bit more than if you're wired.
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Get better internet, 200 ping is fucking ridiculous.
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On December 27 2010 09:27 Rampager wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics, Someone doesn't understand how data transmission works. Hint: It may be you. Unfortunately a high ping is something you just have to deal with. I usually find I have a lot more success in doing stutter-step micro if I rightclick move -> a-move the ground behind their army, as the time it takes for me to get my mouse cursor from the move position to the a-move position usually gives my marines/marauders time to fire. Some goes for any race, really. Edit: In contrast to the Right Click move -> press H (or s) tactic. People who are saying it's unplayable though are pretty wrong, 200 ping is a disadvantage but it's not a "you might as well stop playing" one.
Getting a better connection will improve ping... Think about it, its like travelling, going at 100km/h will take you 1 hour, going at 200km/h will get you there in half an hour...
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On December 27 2010 07:46 HawaiianPig wrote:
Online gaming at all with that kind of ping is going to be very difficult no matter what race you play.
Consider getting into Brood War, imo.
i doubt playing BW which requires even better ping to play well than sc2 is a good answer. you can make up for ping with timing ur actions.. bout it
playing any competitive game with high ping will suck, sorry to say. games like WOW (non PvP play at least) will be playable at least.
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On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics,
your ignorance is astounding and mind blowing.
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On December 27 2010 09:51 MavercK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics, your ignorance is astounding and mind blowing.
Elaborate please
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I live in Australia and also get better ping on NA than SEA. The NA ping is acceptable for me though.
This Leatrix Latency fixer thing, though. That looks interesting. Can anyone vouch for it?
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How do you check out what your ping is?
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On December 27 2010 09:48 goldengold wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:27 Rampager wrote:On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics, Someone doesn't understand how data transmission works. Hint: It may be you. Unfortunately a high ping is something you just have to deal with. I usually find I have a lot more success in doing stutter-step micro if I rightclick move -> a-move the ground behind their army, as the time it takes for me to get my mouse cursor from the move position to the a-move position usually gives my marines/marauders time to fire. Some goes for any race, really. Edit: In contrast to the Right Click move -> press H (or s) tactic. People who are saying it's unplayable though are pretty wrong, 200 ping is a disadvantage but it's not a "you might as well stop playing" one. Getting a better connection will improve ping... Think about it, its like travelling, going at 100km/h will take you 1 hour, going at 200km/h will get you there in half an hour...
you forget. increasing bandwidth doesn't increase transmission speed. the internet is not a car.
theres this thing people seem to be forgetting. that being the speed of light. also processing time it takes for each router/pc your connection goes through.
also you did the metaphor wrong. a better way would be to say that you can get a normal car to a destination in an hour. getting a better internet connection lets you get a double decker bus to the same location in the same time. not faster.
im absolutely amazed people think you can get a good ping over such a distance. you can't. it's impossible. not until we discover a method to transmit data faster than the speed of light.
On December 27 2010 09:57 Cognizance wrote:I live in Australia and also get better ping on NA than SEA. The NA ping is acceptable for me though. This Leatrix Latency fixer thing, though. That looks interesting. Can anyone vouch for it?
Leatrix is a TCP registry tweak.
SC2 does not use TCP. it's UDP.
it will do nothing.
On December 27 2010 09:44 Volka wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:04 MegaBUD wrote:Wont fix his problem.... SC2 use UDP. Fix your lag... Actually, I'm pretty certain it uses TCP ( it makes sense). In the Battle.net help guide it says that it uses 1119 TCP port, and the 1119 UDP port but fof voice chat. So that tool might do something. Also, if you're using a wirelesss connection, then it's likey you're lagging a bit more than if you're wired.
it's definitely UDP. use a network monitor.
also everything like Lowerping and Battleping ceased to work when Blizzard switched SC2 to UDP in the beta (no-one remembers the horrendous lag problems this caused initially?)
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This is ridiculous. 200ms is perfectly fine. This kind of delay makes very little difference in rts. It might account for perhaps 1% of your losses if you are extremely aggressive and go for micro heavy early all ins. I have around 400 and have never lost a game to ping.
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Well.. mr. If you have 200 ping, Terran is probably the correct race for you. Mostly because it requires less micro than some race like zerg say? But yeah it still is really annoying actually. Of course with that kind of ping, any game is really hard to play online. I do have a crappy ping sometimes reaching almost 100 and some, and I'm in Canada connecting to NA server. You don't need to switch, maybe choose more buff units besides marines that you can use. Like vs. Zerg try mech, or vs. P just stick with MMM but make sure you can keep your marines safe without too much crazy micro.
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I'm not sure what my ping is, but I live in Australia and we don't have the best internet speeds. Regardless, it really doesn't make a difference. I play this game when I'm capped at 64kbps and don't notice a difference.
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On December 27 2010 10:03 MavercK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:48 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:27 Rampager wrote:On December 27 2010 09:21 goldengold wrote:On December 27 2010 09:16 iko wrote:On December 27 2010 08:40 optical630 wrote:
you need to fix ur lag instead of working around it Please explain how exactly we're supposed to "fix our lag". I, and millions of other Oceanics eagerly await your solution which breaks the laws of physics. Getting better broadband isint exactly breaking the laws of physics, Someone doesn't understand how data transmission works. Hint: It may be you. Unfortunately a high ping is something you just have to deal with. I usually find I have a lot more success in doing stutter-step micro if I rightclick move -> a-move the ground behind their army, as the time it takes for me to get my mouse cursor from the move position to the a-move position usually gives my marines/marauders time to fire. Some goes for any race, really. Edit: In contrast to the Right Click move -> press H (or s) tactic. People who are saying it's unplayable though are pretty wrong, 200 ping is a disadvantage but it's not a "you might as well stop playing" one. Getting a better connection will improve ping... Think about it, its like travelling, going at 100km/h will take you 1 hour, going at 200km/h will get you there in half an hour... you forget. increasing bandwidth doesn't increase transmission speed. the internet is not a car. theres this thing people seem to be forgetting. that being the speed of light. also processing time it takes for each router/pc your connection goes through. also you did the metaphor wrong. a better way would be to say that you can get a normal car to a destination in an hour. getting a better internet connection lets you get a double decker bus to the same location in the same time. not faster. im absolutely amazed people think you can get a good ping over such a distance. you can't. it's impossible. not until we discover a method to transmit data faster than the speed of light. Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:57 Cognizance wrote:I live in Australia and also get better ping on NA than SEA. The NA ping is acceptable for me though. This Leatrix Latency fixer thing, though. That looks interesting. Can anyone vouch for it? Leatrix is a TCP registry tweak. SC2 does not use TCP. it's UDP. it will do nothing. Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 09:44 Volka wrote:On December 27 2010 09:04 MegaBUD wrote:Wont fix his problem.... SC2 use UDP. Fix your lag... Actually, I'm pretty certain it uses TCP ( it makes sense). In the Battle.net help guide it says that it uses 1119 TCP port, and the 1119 UDP port but fof voice chat. So that tool might do something. Also, if you're using a wirelesss connection, then it's likey you're lagging a bit more than if you're wired. it's definitely UDP. use a network monitor. also everything like Lowerping and Battleping ceased to work when Blizzard switched SC2 to UDP in the beta (no-one remembers the horrendous lag problems this caused initially?)
Using a network monitor software, I can confirm that it is TCP, and uses the 1119 port like it was said. So give those programs a try!
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This literally HALVES your latency
It works for all games, not just Blizzard ones
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I have 250 ping to google, not sure of ping to servers, and i can micro just fine. not PERFECTLY, but well enough.
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