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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 07 2010 16:37 DizzyDrone wrote: just a little hint for you protoss players out there, you can spread phoenixes against fungal growth the same way you can spread mutalisks against thors. So you only lose 1/2 of your Phoenix? It's irrelevant really. | ||
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cocosoft
Sweden1068 Posts
On December 07 2010 16:37 DizzyDrone wrote: LOL you're not supposed to be hit by fungal growth in the first place.just a little hint for you protoss players out there, you can spread phoenixes against fungal growth the same way you can spread mutalisks against thors. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
So I assume they also approve of keyboard-macros that does more then one button press in a single press? | ||
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Highways
Australia6120 Posts
On December 07 2010 17:04 papaz wrote: quite dissapointing of blizzard, specially with the "hold down key". Exactly. You see superstars like Jaedong playing at 350apm, and now you see 'so called' high level SC2 players complaining that: "I cant leave all my hatches on one hotkey and hold down ONE button to macro anymore". SC2 players already have it very very easy mechanically ffs. | ||
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gn1k
United States441 Posts
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da flam
2 Posts
On December 07 2010 17:02 cocosoft wrote: LOL you're not supposed to be hit by fungal growth in the first place. Fungal Growth outranges Graviton Beam significantly (9 to 4). How are you 'not supposed to be hit by it'? | ||
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cannavaro
Italy86 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
On December 07 2010 16:49 NearPerfection wrote: I really hope my ridiculously high win percentage on the PTR didn't contribute to toss buff reversions. Dont get too excited lol | ||
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Grack
51 Posts
On December 07 2010 15:24 Sprouter wrote: that zerg qq gets something done for once  for once lol ? zergs are definition of qq . | ||
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SYFO
United States9 Posts
and im sick of hearing terran players yell about zerg op. terran in SC2 is a far far cry from the overwhelmingly demanding micro of terran in broodwar. from what i have seen thus far in the ladder, terran players have a random assortment of builds, and random collection of units, all of which are equally viable vs whatever enemy they are fighting. in my opinion, BEING A RANDOM PLAYER that is 2300+ in diamond, the terran "raw skill" average is far below that of other races. combining things like planetary fortresses, cheap concussive shells, extreme range thors and cheap medivacs, terrans micro demands are miniscule compared to that of protoss or zerg. and in my experience, when playing as protoss or zerg vs a terran, the build is usually dependent on what the terran is going - which is wrong. the terran tech tree should not dictate the dynamic of the game. personally, i think it was done like this intentionally to get non-broodwar players into the game via a combination of the campaign and then battlenet. and what nubbin said that zerg was too powerful late game? zergs tier three units are garbage, and used rarely. in fact, the ENTIRE basis of ZvP or ZvT is that the zerg HAS to stay 1 base ahead of the enemy or its just not a fair fight. terran is quite strong late game, and toss is the strongest. zergs power is early and mid game. period. | ||
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MaDBread
Germany66 Posts
Now that FG is back to old how about bringing VR speed back or give it another upgrade that makes it immune to ensnare effects? | ||
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
On December 07 2010 17:09 da flam wrote: Fungal Growth outranges Graviton Beam significantly (9 to 4). How are you 'not supposed to be hit by it'? He'll probably respond with something like "the infestor is so easy to see etcetc" but of course if we made storm spontaneously combust mutalisks on touch he probably wouldn't be so happy. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9223 Posts
Bring to PTR to Eu too!  | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
I was a big fan of the patch outside of these 3 changes and with them not gone I think 1.2 is a great patch overall. The phoenix change is fine now that fungal is back to what it was i'm thinking. Obviously the game still needs more tweeks but this patch was a step in the right direction. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 07 2010 17:06 Highways wrote: Exactly. You see superstars like Jaedong playing at 350apm, and now you see 'so called' high level SC2 players complaining that: "I cant leave all my hatches on one hotkey and hold down ONE button to macro anymore". SC2 players already have it very very easy mechanically ffs. That has nothing to do with mechanics. That's literally spamming the same key over again. They are different. Spamming the same key over again doesn't require any "mechanics" it's just tedious. And there's nothing you can even compare that to in BW. All larvae build the same thing in BW if they're all selected from a single click, so it'd be a terrible analogy. The closest comparison I could think of would be suggesting something like "if you have 10 marines selected, you should have to click T ten 10x to stim all 10 of them" as opposed to T merely stimming them all at once. | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
It's relatively easy to snipe infestors during big pitched battles before you commit with your air force, or to just defend your air units with the rest of your colossus/gateway army when they get fungaled during a fight. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
Lol, I love the "people who hold down buttons are noobs!!11eleven" talk. Seriously, if you don't play zerg, don't talk about this one. Next time you have to morph thirty banelings by destroying your 'e' key, then come talk. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On December 07 2010 16:59 Highways wrote: I liked the no repeat hotkey for Zerg. Sad to see so many noobs complaining because they can't handle the mechanics. I don't even put my all my hatcheries on hotkey and hold down a button. I actually individually hotkey every hatch I have. Sad to see TL trying to dumb down the mechanics. So pissed off right now. I don't care other races are easier to macro, Zerg is a race that requires high APM so deal with it. This is absurd. There is no "skill" in being able to push the same button 40 times really fast. It is merely a tedious and unnecessary addition that adds nothing and detracts plenty since no longer will you have lings all popping at once but rather streaming out a few at a time, which is huge. Also, the change would have affected zerg much much more than the other races which again is absurd given the fact zerg already takes much more "clicking" and apm to macro as zerg. It wasn't anything like the proposed change in BW and there is no reason it should be like that in SC2. | ||
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SuperBigFoot
United States63 Posts
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