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aquanda
United States477 Posts
I really fail to see how this buff to Protoss air is needed, since it's obviously aimed directly at Zerg. For people saying this is to make Zerg want to use Corruptors more: How exactly are we suppose to get in range to attack the Pheonix? If they even smell a Corruptor they will simply skate well around them, they're not hard to dodge. And Zerg is *required* to make them to counter Collosus anyway, so whatever. | ||
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tsuxiit
1305 Posts
btw for everyone who isn't aware, the zerg not being able to hold Z applies to terrans holding A for marines as well. It wasn't just zergs who got the shaft. That's different. A terran holding down A to make marines is what is called "bad macro." Whereas when playing zerg we start producing each unit the very instant we hit Z, D, E, etc. So it's imperative that we can do that as fast as possible. The APM intensive race just became ludicrously APM intensive. I think Blizzard is literally trying to give me carpal tunnel. | ||
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HiHiByeBye
Canada365 Posts
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Boof
Canada77 Posts
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cannavaro
Italy86 Posts
On December 04 2010 14:58 Greentellon wrote: If the "hold down" key thing is global, then it's pretty fair. Zerg and Terran, think F or T for every forcefield and storm instead of holding the key and instantly spamming. I know Zerg macro becomes bit harder, but it's not completely unfair, if it's global. You never had to hold a key to spam the spells, just press the hotkey once, hold shift, click spells, nothing changes to that in the patch. Same amount of required actions on your side. On another note, screenshots of ultralisk splash comparison pleeeeaaaase? Poor europeans can't go to ptr to see for themselves! | ||
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Twitches
Canada365 Posts
On December 04 2010 15:13 Zelniq wrote: i feel comfortable claiming that phoenix builds are now incredibly strong vs zerg. the build time is super fast now and there's no concern of losing them all to Fungal. if the changes go through, we will definitely see much more phoenix play from P Having overlords is going to be a nightmare. | ||
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Flummie
Netherlands417 Posts
On December 04 2010 15:13 kedinik wrote: "Protoss still wins most of the time against zerg on the ladder. And they have an even better win rate in the GSL!" "Nerf fungal, buff protoss air." "Sir?" "You heard me, nerf fungal and buff protoss air." "I don't understand. "Look. A lot of shitty players have been complaining for a long time. Make it happen. Hell, nerf fungals in such a way that you break ZvZ, too. Now get out of my gold-plated office." Yeh a lot of "shitty" players like Nexgenius, Inca, Hongunprime etc  | ||
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Arckan
243 Posts
On December 04 2010 15:06 cHaNg-sTa wrote: Infestors are already underused, I don't see how this nerf was warranted. My issue is not ZvZ, it's against Terran. When you went something to the effect of roach/spling/ultra in the late game, you relied on the Infestor's fungal growth + infested Terran to keep the T from just picking up and running with his drops. What is Z supposed to do now for AA in this matchup, where Hydras are completely non-viable due to siege tanks?Do you also build as many Zerg units over the course of the game? Probably not. I don't have a huge problem with the FG change, I just think also making phoenix produce a lot quicker is unnecessary if changing FG. As a question: Can a non-fungal'd medivac pick up fungal'd ground units? That has some effect on how this could end up playing out. + Show Spoiler + I want to see IdrA's take on these potential changes. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Hopefully they fix it soon for us so we can test it. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
Chat channels! Fungal Growth no longer affects air units D: edit: I hate this change right now, and not because of zvz. Catching drops was cool to do, and difficult to pull off quickly without good reaction time/overlord spotting. You know the terran was pissed if you fungal the dropship right as it enters your base xp Luckily I've always spammed D or Z for all my units, nothing for me to change! | ||
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LoveXPn
United States74 Posts
On December 04 2010 10:46 Phaded wrote:Replays • Several Save/Replay File dialogue improvements have been made: -- Prints current directory name above file list. -- Added sort order icons to Name and Date columns. -- Added the ability to rename. -- Added filters for Autosave and Unsaved. -- Added an option to permanently save all replays. Checking this option will mark all unsaved replays as being saved. • Camera following behavior for observers and replays has been improved. Still would like to see the ability to have multiple people watch a replay like in BW | ||
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Juxx
325 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/12/04/PlunderIsle.jpg) | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
you still have to click on every goddamn replay to see who it was or whatever. jeezes christ | ||
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angryzor
Belgium5 Posts
On December 04 2010 15:14 cannavaro wrote: You never had to hold a key to spam the spells, just press the hotkey once, hold shift, click spells, nothing changes to that in the patch. Same amount of required actions on your side. On another note, screenshots of ultralisk splash comparison pleeeeaaaase? Poor europeans can't go to ptr to see for themselves! That's not true, suppose you have 5 sentries selected that are currently attacking something. With your system if I first click once normally one of the sentries will place a forcefield. If I then try to place more forcefields with shift the other sentries will just put this in their queue to do after they finished killing the unit. | ||
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tetracycloide
295 Posts
I don't think that's the only one. | ||
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charlie420247
United States692 Posts
On December 04 2010 13:18 love.less wrote: cant believe people are complaining about having to actually put a small amount of effort into macroing as zerg now god zerg is like the hardest fucking race to macro effectively with allready, you have to make litterally TWICE as many units. and its not that you have to put in more effort. its just fucking ANNOYING. | ||
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HiHiByeBye
Canada365 Posts
Yes they are not scourge but try microing scourge vs 5+ corsairs... | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
On December 04 2010 15:15 Flummie wrote: Yeh a lot of "shitty" players like Nexgenius, Inca, Hongunprime etc I subscribe to the IdrA philosophy that lots of top protoss players are fundamentally bad at the game. Of course not all of them, but they seem to chronically choke late in the GSL. GSL SPOILER Did you see Choya last night? He had the final game in the bag and threw it away 3 times, only won because IMmvp made even worse mistakes every time Choya made one. | ||
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Flummie
Netherlands417 Posts
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