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Drizz
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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silencesc
United States464 Posts
I wasn't on TL when this whole newfangled APM thing came about, but my roomate slapped me when I had no idea who you were. So I read the thread you linked to, and wanted to write here and say thanks. It's entirely possible that had you not (with the collaboration of many others I'm sure) invented the culminate measuring stick that is APM, esports wouldnt be what it is today. People love an easy compact way to compare themselves. And while iCCup ranks are good, a nice clean number is better, and you delivered. Cheers man! :D P.S. What happened to the TL I knew where people read the OP. Before posting? This isn't about razer, or APM implementation, it's about recognizing the mainstream application of something invented by our community. Read people. Please. | ||
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Kaptein[konijn]
Netherlands110 Posts
 No one had more than 180 apm back then.. | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
Always assumed the koreans came up with it. They were just so far ahead of everyone. I wish we'd have bwchart for sc2 as well. Sorting maps and nicknames into groups was so useful. Sc2gears isn't there yet unfortunately. Thanks so much for reminding me of the great times as a beginner of competetive starcraft, jca, and everyone else for making this such a hilarious thread. Lol.  e: spelling woo | ||
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
We should have on of these every month, a somewhat confusing (but still completely understandable) OP that leads the lazy crowd astray. Would be a nice way to clean out some of the illiterates. bwcharts was so big, I did not play much BW but I still came into contact with the amazing program. Mad props! | ||
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mOnion
United States5660 Posts
On December 03 2010 01:55 Liquid`Drone wrote: and victors expression has not changed since lol this for sure | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
Even the yoda is still there :D | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On December 03 2010 02:44 silencesc wrote: Bon matin jca! Merci pour tous! I wasn't on TL when this whole newfangled APM thing came about, but my roomate slapped me when I had no idea who you were. So I read the thread you linked to, and wanted to write here and say thanks. It's entirely possible that had you not (with the collaboration of many others I'm sure) invented the culminate measuring stick that is APM, esports wouldnt be what it is today. People love an easy compact way to compare themselves. And while iCCup ranks are good, a nice clean number is better, and you delivered. Cheers man! :D It's funny, I never played BW "back in the day" other than with a few people over LAN as my family didn't have a decent internet connection until like 2005 or so, and even then my RTS of choice became Warcraft III. When I got back into Brood War a year or so ago, I was amazed by how much the community as a whole (TL and others) have shaped the game. Multiplayer maps, custom maps, plugins, tools, major build orders, game casting, etc.etc. all developed by the community. Starcraft must be one of the only games out there where the players and community had a major part in defining how it was played. (maybe with the exception of Warcraft 2) It's strange now to think there was a time that this game was once played on maps like Wheel of War with such builds as proxy hatcheries. The extremely closed nature of Starcraft 2; the Blizzard Map pool, the broken custom game system, the illegality of third party servers like ICCup. I worry that these things threaten what really made BW stay so popular for so long. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On December 03 2010 01:26 rozina wrote: Shouldn't this be a blog? I dont get the OP. Its just a statement who invented APM. What is there to discuss? Would be less warnings if it was a blog imo When you've invented something like APM with the help of the TL community, you can have your own thread dedicated to its invention 7 years later, too. | ||
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njAl
Norway156 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
This thread is still 9000 times better than the vast majority of SC2 threads even with all the bans present here. | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On December 03 2010 04:47 njAl wrote: May i ask what the fuck the point of this post was? this kind of stuff goes in the history section or the wiki if there is one, as what is written is in no way an arguable subject. Why does every thread have to be a debate about something? There are plenty of threads that have a purpose besides presenting a controversial topic. It seems that the moderators disagree with you on the validity of this topic as well. Maybe you should take it up with them by using the website feedback function. To answer your question, this thread happens to be about celebrating the contributions that jca and TL have made to the wider starcraft community.site | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On December 03 2010 04:26 TheToast wrote: The extremely closed nature of Starcraft 2; the Blizzard Map pool, the broken custom game system, the illegality of third party servers like ICCup. I worry that these things threaten what really made BW stay so popular for so long. This has been one of the concerns about SC2 since before it came out. Blizzard, whether it is unintentional or not, seems to be sacrificing the amount of constructive input the gaming community can provide in order to secure more profits by controlling every aspect of their game and (currently) flawed Bnet 2.0 system. This in itself is already pretty heinous, then you realize most of their 'achievements' are actually just cannibalizations of free contributions from the community (such as BWChart). | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
APM was has always been missunderstood by many who thinks high == good. My thoughts go to TLO in the Friendsday Wednesday who said that he's much more impressed with someone with a low apm. The truth is of course that apm can tell a story if you have other facts but alone it's useless data that needs to be put into context=) The many warnings made me laugh | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
i think it would be a good idea if the OP in combination with the following post: On December 02 2010 11:38 Slow Motion wrote: It's like a reading comprehension question. The OP's description on the Razer mouse is: A) The main topic of the thread. B) A humorous anecdote. C) An allusion to T.S. Elliot's The Waste Land. D) An introduction to his main point. as part of new user registration procedure ~~ | ||
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Cryosin
United States182 Posts
You cant actually monitor your APM in-game so this would give some players at the top a slight advantage. I can see it working great for practice. As for the "i could make this for $5". Well, aside from the mouse costing money to make, triggering lights to in-game actions is not easy. There's alot of scripting and programming required to do that. Programmers dont program stuff for free. | ||
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Kez
United States4 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
also funny that ppl braged about their average 150ish apm which is today considered as slow | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On December 03 2010 09:09 Cryosin wrote: You know aside from the funny warning going on and the "lol this is stupid" posts, this isnt really a "bad" tool. You cant actually monitor your APM in-game so this would give some players at the top a slight advantage. I can see it working great for practice. As for the "i could make this for $5". Well, aside from the mouse costing money to make, triggering lights to in-game actions is not easy. There's alot of scripting and programming required to do that. Programmers dont program stuff for free. you read the warning, but still failed to comprehend why people were being warned, (banned later in the thread) did you actually read the OP and mod edit. If Jibba is still checking expect your ban soon. on topic: It is amazing how far the term APM has come, and how far peoples APM has come look back at the old threads on APM and see people talking about 150 being crazy fast (I still wish i had 150) crazy. The history lesson from this thread was great, thanks jca jca2 lowest post count account with a star? (well deserved of course) | ||
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