A Korean fan explains why he hates KeSPA - Page 3

On November 14 2010 15:30 CanucksJC wrote:
The articles mentioned at the end of OP are pretty much garbage. I did a quick scan, and this is some of the bs the journalist (same person writing all of them) pulled out of his ass

- the success of sc2 in korea is nothing but a sudden spark, and even credits that brief moment to WoW players trying out sc2 for a couple days.
- rumour that FruitDealer purposely lost to BoxeR like the infamous match fixing scandal in BW
- mentions some riot of gamers that sc2 fried their graphics card
- treats sc2 as a single player game and speculates when people will transfer over to playing multiplayer
- blames GSL for the WeRRa scandal. says that this is one of many side effects such a huge tournament can have on players, and notes the lack of organization. suggests an organization like KeSPA control these teams like how it's done in BW. questions Blizzard's ability to promote e-sports

Yup, he's pretty much garbage.

On November 14 2010 15:30 CanucksJC wrote:
The articles mentioned at the end of OP are pretty much garbage. I did a quick scan, and this is some of the bs the journalist (same person writing all of them) pulled out of his ass

- the success of sc2 in korea is nothing but a sudden spark, and even credits that brief moment to WoW players trying out sc2 for a couple days.
- rumour that FruitDealer purposely lost to BoxeR like the infamous match fixing scandal in BW
- mentions some riot of gamers that sc2 fried their graphics card
- treats sc2 as a single player game and speculates when people will transfer over to playing multiplayer
- blames GSL for the WeRRa scandal. says that this is one of many side effects such a huge tournament can have on players, and notes the lack of organization. suggests an organization like KeSPA control these teams like how it's done in BW. questions Blizzard's ability to promote e-sports

Yup, he's pretty much garbage.

On November 14 2010 15:44 Zerksys wrote:
How can Kespa consider starcraft public property? I just don't get it. It's a creation that was made with the purpose to sell and make money. That's what copyrights are for... sigh

On November 14 2010 15:50 Fiel wrote:
Because you also have to consider what KeSPA did to change public understanding of Starcraft. Their organization completely changed one of Blizzard's products that, like most other strategy games from the 90s, would have been swept under the rug by now. Their investment into the product is worth something too, isn't it? So since KeSPA has helped Blizzard indirectly, it would seem rude of Blizzard to stomp in their face about IP rights. I think it's because of KeSPA that I can still go to Wal-Mart and find Starcraft sitting on a shelf for $15.

On November 14 2010 15:49 Lokian wrote:


Actually, SC2 did fry some people's cards in beta when there was no limit to FPS rate.

But it only affected people that over clocked their cards because normally those cards would shut down after getting to a certain temperature.

On November 14 2010 15:50 Fiel wrote:
"How can Kespa consider starcraft public property? I just don't get it. It's a creation that was made with the purpose to sell and make money. That's what copyrights are for... sigh"

Because you also have to consider what KeSPA did to change public understanding of Starcraft. Their organization completely changed one of Blizzard's products that, like most other strategy games from the 90s, would have been swept under the rug by now. Their investment into the product is worth something too, isn't it? So since KeSPA has helped Blizzard indirectly, it would seem rude of Blizzard to stomp in their face about IP rights. I think it's because of KeSPA that I can still go to Wal-Mart and find Starcraft sitting on a shelf for $15.

On November 14 2010 15:50 Fiel wrote:
Because you also have to consider what KeSPA did to change public understanding of Starcraft. Their organization completely changed one of Blizzard's products that, like most other strategy games from the 90s, would have been swept under the rug by now. Their investment into the product is worth something too, isn't it? So since KeSPA has helped Blizzard indirectly, it would seem rude of Blizzard to stomp in their face about IP rights. I think it's because of KeSPA that I can still go to Wal-Mart and find Starcraft sitting on a shelf for $15. Also, remember that KeSPA is a not-for-profit organization solely dedicated to eSports. To say that KeSPA is a threat to Starcraft is totally off-base, but to say that KeSPA is a threat to international copyright is most likely accurate.

On November 14 2010 16:00 Baarn wrote:
I'll be kinda pissed if and when I won't be able to see PL anymore. So I can understand the anger. Star2 is cool and has it's moments it's just pretty much mass 1 base push play mostly though which makes it boring as fuck to watch for an extended period of time. I'm hopeful Star2 will improve in time it just won't replace the old game.

On November 14 2010 16:11 oxxo wrote:


It already has? I thought the whole 'OMG SC2 is just 1base all-ins every game' phase was over... like 5-6 months ago.

On November 14 2010 16:12 Gonodactylus wrote:
Wait, so he hates Kespa for standing up against Blizzard? That's exactly why everyone that supports Kespa supports Kespa.

Blizzard totally denies the player's role in the esports product. They try to steal away the IP rights of the progamers by EULA's and big corporate lawyer muscle. Kespa takes money from the broadcasters and gives it to the players. That's exactly how it ought to be.

And while I think BLizzard can play a role in SC2, they just play no role in SC BW. Blizzard didn't balance Starcraft. Blizzard did nothing. Remeber how often we had to rage on the bnet forums because some new patch made the game unplayable for everyone? How they had Testie pick the non-Korean Blizzcon invites? How they played on non-observer maps because they didn't know observer maps even existed? The list goes on. Blizzard has never been a friend of Starcraft esports. And now they try to set a new IP law precedent that will make esports nonviable as a professional industry.

On November 14 2010 16:06 Zyban wrote:
Thank you for the great write up! was looking for a complete back story to this ongoing debate, and after reading this feel like KeSPA is really out of line with the way they are handling their relationship with blizzard, players, and the fans of BOTH our beloved starcrafts we have now. BOTH of which are undeniably intellectual property of Blizzard, and I hope any attempt by KeSPA to make monetary gains from this gets shut down by korean/international courts.

that reporter should be thrown in jail for slander for the WeRRa comments IMO.

I believe Blizz wants to see the continued success/growth of BOTH games and I hope they do whatever is necessary to make this a reality. They have shown they are more than willing to be accommodating as long as organizations don't STEAL from them.