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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
On November 14 2010 14:46 LG)Sabbath wrote: isn't this actually a good argument though? no it would be more like not paying the company that made an exclusive ball, pitch, stadium, goal posts, everything in the stadium, without which there would be no such thing as football.. | ||
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Rodiel
France573 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On November 14 2010 14:46 LG)Sabbath wrote: isn't this actually a good argument though? no because no one really knows who invented soccer while brood war is created by blizzard | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Personally I've always been 100 percent behind gom/blizz since KeSPA fucked up the GOM classic. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
here are some events that would be a great addition to the list of KeSPA LOLdecisions 1. After Blizzard announced their exclusive partner(gomTV), KeSPA goes wild and breaks NDA from negotitations. 2. KeSPA denied and challenged Blizzard to show proof and they showed proof of the NDA signed from the previous president of KeSPA. 1. Nada vs TLO showmatched happened(I forget where) and due to laggy Bnet connections, Nada was unable to play. 2. It was later proven KeSPA pulled the plug because they didn't want the match to be re-streamed to Korea. KeSPA blamed it on Bnet's connectivity while management of the match said it was because of KeSPA... 1. Soon after Nada left WeMadeFox pro gaming team, KeSPA removed Nada's record in the KeSPA ranks. Due to an enormous amount of fan outcries, KeSPA explained it was a system glitch and re-inserted Nada's record. Nada was the only person affected by the 'glitch.' | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On November 14 2010 14:46 LG)Sabbath wrote: isn't this actually a good argument though? There have been a few very well written discussions on this topic, but to sum up, most sports in the world nowadays are in the public domain and can't be applied as an analogy to esports when it comes to IP rights. Moreover, IP rights in related to digital stuff like software and games are completely different from IP rights in any other fields as well. It may look like there's a similarity between esports and sports but if you read enough into digital IP rights you will find out that the difference is huge. | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:02 zoLo wrote: Same here. Koreans are very prideful and most of my friends who were born in Korea tend to like Korean things over American compared to American born Koreans (most of the time, but not always). I should have said it better. Koreans hate anything related to their government (which I have no idea if KeSPA is, but it seems like it), and perusing Korean communities (both SC-related and non-SC related), I seem to notice that Koreans hold a lot more against KeSPA for the pp incident, the power outage incident, etc. than TLers and other foreigners do. In Koreans' eyes, KeSPA is nothing more than an anachronistic organization made up of senile fools who have no idea as to what they're doing - whether that opinion is correct or not is up to the individual's decision. + Show Spoiler + I'm Korean too. >.> Lived there for most of my life until a couple years ago, for what it's worth. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:13 Lokian wrote: 1. Soon after Nada left WeMadeFox pro gaming team, KeSPA removed Nada's record in the KeSPA ranks. Due to an enormous amount of fan outcries, KeSPA explained it was a system glitch and re-inserted Nada's record. Nada was the only person affected by the 'glitch.' This is just really ridiculous. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 14 2010 14:46 LG)Sabbath wrote: isn't this actually a good argument though? No, it is not a good comparison. A soccer ball is a tool used to play the game. It is not the game itself. A keyboard is a tool used to play Starcraft. It is not Starcraft. A better comparison would be, if somebody could be identified as the single man or business that invented Soccer, and had a patent on Soccer, would FIFA have to get permission from that person/organization to host a tournament. And they probably would. Edit: Man, I should have read the second page before jumping on the bandwagon of saying the same thing as everybody to this dude. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:13 Lokian wrote: I thought this was posted before. here are some events that would be a great addition to the list of KeSPA LOLdecisions 1. After Blizzard announced their exclusive partner(gomTV), KeSPA goes wild and breaks NDA from negotitations. 2. KeSPA denied and challenged Blizzard to show proof and they showed proof of the NDA signed from the previous president of KeSPA. 1. Nada vs TLO showmatched happened(I forget where) and due to laggy Bnet connections, Nada was unable to play. 2. It was later proven KeSPA pulled the plug because they didn't want the match to be re-streamed to Korea. KeSPA blamed it on Bnet's connectivity while management of the match said it was because of KeSPA... 1. Soon after Nada left WeMadeFox pro gaming team, KeSPA removed Nada's record in the KeSPA ranks. Due to an enormous amount of fan outcries, KeSPA explained it was a system glitch and re-inserted Nada's record. Nada was the only person affected by the 'glitch.' Oh god these are all awful, especially the last one. Any more? It's so entertaining in the worst ways | ||
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Pizzapie
Australia18 Posts
On November 14 2010 14:53 Sawamura wrote: Whats the purpose of this thread to show korea hates kespa and loves Sc2 now ???? Whatever your underlying purpose this single post does not show that it actually has the support of all sc fan from korea probably a one sided fan's ranting but not the total sc fans. I'm personally not a SC:BW hater, nor a SC2 fanboy. I am a fan of justice though. And yes I do play both games cuz them games are awesome!!! | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
And yes, Korea is a very nationalistic country, and strongly believe they are the best race(first hand experience). Funniest example is when my parents who care nothing about ice skating went ape shit over Yuna Kim. It is a very nationalistic place indeed, but I don't see how cheering for an olympic gold-medalist who is representing the country qualifies as an example of Koreans believing that they are the "best race." There is no more sense of racial/ethnic superiority over there compared to just about anywhere else. As far as I can tell, neither Blizzard/Gom nor KeSPA is well liked in Korea, but it does seem to be true that there is a bigger hatred toward KeSPA, at least among the people who post in the forums. | ||
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Fiel
United States587 Posts
google is your friend | ||
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
- the success of sc2 in korea is nothing but a sudden spark, and even credits that brief moment to WoW players trying out sc2 for a couple days. - rumour that FruitDealer purposely lost to BoxeR like the infamous match fixing scandal in BW - mentions some riot of gamers that sc2 fried their graphics card - treats sc2 as a single player game and speculates when people will transfer over to playing multiplayer - blames GSL for the WeRRa scandal. says that this is one of many side effects such a huge tournament can have on players, and notes the lack of organization. suggests an organization like KeSPA control these teams like how it's done in BW. questions Blizzard's ability to promote e-sports Yup, he's pretty much garbage. | ||
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Nayl
Canada413 Posts
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Pizzapie
Australia18 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:31 scion wrote: Foreigner community does seem much more sympathetic to Kespa. Most Koreans want them gone and let the broadcasting companies free from shackle like they once were. This was one of the reasons why I posted this. Gave me this sudden URGE to translate. I personally have seen this post WAYYYYYYYYYY before the date shown in the OP. I saw may replies under the TL headlines of 'Blizz vs KeSPA' and many seemed to flicked the fingers to Blizz but what I saw in the Korean scene, was totally opposite. | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:31 scion wrote: Foreigner community does seem much more sympathetic to Kespa. Most Koreans want them gone and let the broadcasting companies free from shackle like they once were. I think this might indicate a disparity between what the Koreans know and what we know. The sudden Kespa hate is somewhat odd, seeing as the broadcasting companies are apparently the ones being sued (with Kespa just ranting on the side) | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Pizzapie
Australia18 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:30 CanucksJC wrote: The articles mentioned at the end of OP are pretty much garbage. I did a quick scan, and this is some of the bs the journalist (same person writing all of them) pulled out of his ass - the success of sc2 in korea is nothing but a sudden spark, and even credits that brief moment to WoW players trying out sc2 for a couple days. - rumour that FruitDealer purposely lost to BoxeR like the infamous match fixing scandal in BW - mentions some riot of gamers that sc2 fried their graphics card - treats sc2 as a single player game and speculates when people will transfer over to playing multiplayer - blames GSL for the WeRRa scandal. says that this is one of many side effects such a huge tournament can have on players, and notes the lack of organization. suggests an organization like KeSPA control these teams like how it's done in BW. questions Blizzard's ability to promote e-sports Yup, he's pretty much garbage. Kim, Jin Wook reporter is the KeSPA planted reporter. | ||
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