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photomuse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
October 28 2010 15:39 GMT
#61
This is more akin to someone gatting credit for digging 1000 ditches when the really onlt shoved the shovel in the groung once for each one. The simple solution would be to not apply wins in games that lasted less than 5 mins to the portrait achievement system.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
October 28 2010 15:47 GMT
#62
rofl who the fuck cares if they get matched against each others cause their MMR is so low. Let them be noobs and have a new avatar.Ppl in Diamond league dont give a damn about the loading screen avatar.... seriously, n1 really care about that?
Brood War is forever
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
October 28 2010 15:50 GMT
#63
On the other hand, I think they did some sort of changes to team games with regards to leavers.

I THINK (not 100% positive) that if you join a team game and leave it before 5 minutes, and your partner goes on to win, you will NOT get the win anymore, it'll be considered a draw for you, and a win for your partner. I have tested this in Co-op and it seems this is the case, but I havent tested it in real team games (personally I dont wanna screw a partner, but co-op is just vs comps so who cares)
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 28 2010 15:51 GMT
#64
On October 29 2010 00:47 ScDeluX wrote:
rofl who the fuck cares if they get matched against each others cause their MMR is so low. Let them be noobs and have a new avatar.Ppl in Diamond league dont give a damn about the loading screen avatar.... seriously, n1 really care about that?


You'd be surprised. People are more materialistic than they usually let on.
^-^
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
October 28 2010 15:52 GMT
#65
On October 28 2010 18:27 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 18:23 osten wrote:
If you whine about this consider for a second that you essentially whine about the beautiful pictures they get to have on their profile. Which is stuff that i'd expect to see on some kind of pony adventure forum.


On this Very Serious Super Gosu forum, we only care about the arbitrary and inflated numerical values on our profile pages.

People care about merit badges. Just because yours aren't actual graphical images, doesn't mean you don't display any.


ooh Zing!

That's pretty clever.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Where's the counter?"
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
October 28 2010 15:58 GMT
#66
Poll: wat is more pathetic

making threads and arguing about dis shit (86)
 
73%

win trading 4 profile pics on sc2 bnet (32)
 
27%

118 total votes

Your vote: wat is more pathetic

(Vote): win trading 4 profile pics on sc2 bnet
(Vote): making threads and arguing about dis shit

Tray
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
October 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#67
Win trading is cheating the matchmaking system and is a bannable offense. The prescedent was set in WoW. These accounts will be closed by Blizzard.

"It doesn't affect you" is an invalid argument for two reasons. First, it doesn't matter. Just because I don't run into a maphacker doesn't make the maphacker a legit player. Secondly, as mentioned, it cheapens the value of the achievement for everyone. Just because you personally don't care about achievements doesn't mean others don't.

And it's as simple as that. If you defend these actions you're probably a cheater yourself and you're just trying to justify your own actions
Drascus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States100 Posts
October 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#68
Considering that the matchmaking algorithm is designed to put people at a 50% win/loss ratio unless they improve, EVERYONE will have a 1k wins avatar given enough time. They don't mean anything, except that you have played a lot. Having the Dark Voice or Infested Kerrigan portrait just means you have played a lot of games. Maybe it means you had to play 2,000 games to get that avatar, or maybe you only had to play 1750 games. Either way, it's no big.

About a year from now, everyone who's been playing SCII ladder games more or less regularly will have several of the very high number win avatars, regardless of ladder position.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
October 28 2010 16:25 GMT
#69
so they're trading wins only to sit at the bottom of the ladder? okay, doesn't affect me...
my icon is and always will be my lovely thatcher.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
October 28 2010 16:59 GMT
#70
harmless
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
October 28 2010 17:02 GMT
#71
Honestly who cares if some players spend hours getting some portrait? It's really pointless. Everyone should be allowed any portrait so they can pick the one they like the most anyways.
That boys a monster
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 17:28:50
October 28 2010 17:28 GMT
#72
On October 28 2010 17:48 sk` wrote:
Avatars and Achievements make SC2 better... glad resources went there.

because that took SO many resources!
edit: lol baller
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 17:31:36
October 28 2010 17:28 GMT
#73
On October 28 2010 19:06 kojinshugi wrote:

EDIT: amazing analogy incoming:

It's like getting a gold watch when you retire. Sure, raises and promotions would be better, but if you work the same job adequately for 40 years, you get a gold watch.

This is like some guy forging his paperwork so HR thinks he's worked there for 40 years, when he actually only worked there for 6 months. He gets a gold watch just same. One of you deserved it. The other one cheated.

The reason that this watch is truly valuable is not because of the material worth but instead because of the sentimental valuable in my opinion.

If some kid gets $500 every week to do whatever he wants with from his parents buys an expensive watch then cool, it probably doesn't mean very much to him. But instead a humble worker dedicates a very large portion of his life to a company and when he is done the company shows their immense gratitude by offering this man a token of their appreciation. The worth of this watch is maybe $200 but that is not what matters to this man. It is what the watch means to him which makes this watch so important.

If someone in bronze league gets an expensive watch maybe someone will admire him and be like "omg liek that is so c00l man! I r sooo jealous." To anyone with half a brain, they will just see this guy as some douchbag that wasted weeks to get some stupid picture. And for the guy that got it, he might think that he's hot shit for a while with his fancy portrait, but after a while he's gonna go, "Fuck, why did I just waste my time doing that. Fuck my face."

To the person that worked their ass of after a couple of months to get this reward it will actually hold meaning to them. They will know what this portrait means to them and how much work it took to get it and they will be proud.

If you work your ass off and buy a sick ass car, and then see some punk kid get the same car as a birthday present from his spineless parents, and if then you let that affect your appreciation of your car that worked for then that is just sad and I feel sorry for you because you let stupid shit like that get to you. If you finally get that sweet car then be happy.
I get it.
captncraig
Profile Joined October 2010
9 Posts
October 28 2010 17:45 GMT
#74
Problem is, now that this is staying on the front page of the teamliquid forums, more and more people are gonna start doing this.
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
October 28 2010 17:47 GMT
#75
if their exploits didnt break any rules.. just leave them be.
moshi moshi~
whomybuddy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States620 Posts
October 28 2010 17:48 GMT
#76
Whenever I see a good avatar, I feel like I would have a more challenging opponent since he/she must play more which mean more experience than me.
Roaches all the way way way.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 28 2010 17:48 GMT
#77
On October 29 2010 00:58 baller wrote:
Poll: wat is more pathetic

making threads and arguing about dis shit (86)
 
73%

win trading 4 profile pics on sc2 bnet (32)
 
27%

118 total votes

Your vote: wat is more pathetic

(Vote): win trading 4 profile pics on sc2 bnet
(Vote): making threads and arguing about dis shit



<3

I'm this close to joining the baller fanclub.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
October 28 2010 17:49 GMT
#78
I guess the real question is, who cares? If they want to spend their time in such a manner then so be it.
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
October 28 2010 18:04 GMT
#79
I don't see how this is effecting your SC2 experience. So they're trading wins off of each other? Okay, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not like they're influencing your results or anybody else's at all. But, if they ever do start hacking/cheating and it does effect legit players' results, then you have something to get riled up about. Until then, you're overreacting.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
Goggalor
Profile Joined August 2010
United States310 Posts
October 28 2010 18:50 GMT
#80
I don't understand the point.

You pay 60 bucks for a game, then don't play it but still rack up a win record.
We are a way for the cosmos to know itself - Carl Sagan
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