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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 28 2010 11:13 GMT
#41
Really, they arent rule breaking. Yeah they get fancy icons, but really - does it matter??
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 28 2010 11:23 GMT
#42
On October 28 2010 19:16 actionbastrd wrote:
i feel like you read half my posts. i added a different way to make things work. Avatars for inside each league, etc. as i said in my last post below.


I read your post just fine. It's a completely superfluous system because it doesn't distinguish you in any way. If you're in silver and get a portrait for it, everyone you play against will have the same portrait.


If we reward for improvement and not mass games, that is still giving people the goal to keep playing for avatars, while improving themselves and would add so much more to what these avatars mean.

At the moment, it means little.


95% of people will not improve. They will plateau at whatever their skill level is, and even if the game matures and play becomes overall better, they will still be in the same percentile of skill level and therefore in the same league.

"Win 1000 ladder matches" are goals for these people, not people who make concentrated efforts to improve by practicing and watching Day9 and watching their own replays and learning build orders/strategies.

Blizzard needs these people to have goals, since they make up the majority of the playerbase. And they certainly deserve appropriate goals and appropriate rewards from the game they bought and paid for.
whatsgrackalackin420
Lucius2
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany548 Posts
October 28 2010 11:31 GMT
#43
its ladder manipulation and that gets punished in most games
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
October 28 2010 11:32 GMT
#44
On October 28 2010 20:07 Sicktor wrote:
Blizzard banned people for using the trainers for single player because it took away the prestige of the achievements.


Here's a statement made by Blizzard:

Blizzard Entertainment is not banning StarCraft II players just for using single-player cheats. There's been some confusion in the last couple of days about the suspensions and bans meted out to players caught cheating in StarCraft II. It's important to point out first, that many of the 3rd-party hacks and cheats developed for StarCraft II contain both single- and multiplayer functionality. In order to protect the integrity of multiplayer competition, we are actively detecting cheat programs used in multiplayer modes whether there are human opponents or not.

That said, players who opt to use any type of 3rd party hacks do so at their own risk — there are already built-in cheat codes for StarCraft II single-player that can be used safely. Blizzard Entertainment has always taken cheating seriously and will continue to aggressively crackdown on players who cheat in our games.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 28 2010 11:41 GMT
#45
On October 28 2010 17:34 Thunderfist wrote:
It seems there are new ways of getting free wins, oh irony. People will kill each other only to have awesome avatar that means shit.


new? that exists since wc3's ladder.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 13:09:26
October 28 2010 12:19 GMT
#46
On October 28 2010 18:16 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 18:14 DND_Enkil wrote:
On October 28 2010 18:11 kojinshugi wrote:
There's reason to care about fair play even if the rule breaking never affects you.


What rule are they breaking?


The rule where portraits are awarded for laddering.
For getting wins in the ladder. Blizzard is not forcing you to play a real game, you get the win at the moment the opponent leaves. The guys just using the ladder mechanics. I don't see any reason to blame them for this.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Tyler918273
Profile Joined September 2010
115 Posts
October 28 2010 12:48 GMT
#47
I agree that the "it doesn't effect me" attitude is bad to have, but seriously, who does this effect? As far as I can see, nobody except the people wasting time to get these avatars. so while I object to gaming the system, its not worth my time to worry about this. there are many more important things to worry about.
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
October 28 2010 12:50 GMT
#48
Seriously? Is Dark Voice that impressive to you that you will qq about someone being rated 900 bronze deliberately losing games?
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 28 2010 12:53 GMT
#49
I am not sure which annoys me more; The useless achievement system that like all others does nothing but encourage "douchbag gaming", or the ones complaining about those who find ways to exploit said achievements that benefit them in no tangible manner.

You know, honestly I would vote that any thread on TL talking about achievements just get locked on sight. This is supposed to be a forum for competitive skilled gamers and there is nothing competitive or skillful about achievement whoring.
Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
October 28 2010 13:02 GMT
#50
Yeah I have seen this guy on Bnet fourms i thoguht it was preety funny haha.
Blizzcon exclusive no donuts.
double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
October 28 2010 13:11 GMT
#51
dont have many friends in SC2 to broad about my league winning so dont see the point of this. Anw, I dont see it much fun to do like this or actually i dont feel scare or respect for ppl who just on the top (just want to take them down anw), of corse this does not include any legends or pro players (they are really my inspiration) which lead back to my first point, why doing this?.
To comment about what they did, i dont see it as cheating, I myself sometimes lost due to connection and benefit from opponent quit, so yeah, if they want to do that I think just let them do since in case they want to prove that they are better must be in a game.
Starcraft FTW
Xtar
Profile Joined October 2010
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 13:16:44
October 28 2010 13:16 GMT
#52
Blizzard made the game better by adding achievements and portraits. I think people should show some gratitude instead of QQing over some people having nice portraits/avatars they themselves don't have. Be more hardcore and get them too.
NehR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden87 Posts
October 28 2010 13:20 GMT
#53
On October 28 2010 22:16 Xtar wrote:
Blizzard made the game better by adding achievements and portraits. I think people should show some gratitude instead of QQing over some people having nice portraits/avatars they themselves don't have. Be more hardcore and get them too.

I believe you missed the whole point of the thread. It's not THAT they have the avatars, it's HOW they got them that's making people annoyed (for some reason). Stop trolling.
'If you keep standing upside down, we'll never get into town.'
megagoten
Profile Joined October 2010
318 Posts
October 28 2010 13:34 GMT
#54
blizzard should see what the poor bottom dweller of bronze has to say to getting worker rushed by the same 3 people LOL
i feel bad for them, but it's gotta be super entertaining to watch them bronz'ers getting rushed though
imagine some 8 year old crying because of that.. cute

they're gaming the ladder right, allright

i commend them for not only thinking of it, but actually doing it, their mmr stuck in bronze though
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 28 2010 13:35 GMT
#55
On October 28 2010 17:52 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 17:49 aNDRoM wrote:
I read about this method of cheating, but I don't understand it. I can see how it'd work for some of the achievements, but OP, since you wrote "ON LADDER" in caps, how do they guarantee they'll get each other in quick matches?


This. I don't understand either.


Whenever they match someone else, they autolose so they get a really really low MMR.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
October 28 2010 13:40 GMT
#56
I have an idea how it could be done but I don't understand why one do it. One could use the firewall to only allow connection to BNet and friends IPs. As far as I know, BNet uses SC2 to test the connection speed between you and a couple of players that it would like to match you with. If your ping would fail with all the other players, it would match you with your friend since that's the only one with which you can actually connect with.

If the connection between players is not direct, then I don't know how one could do it without modifying SC2.
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
October 28 2010 13:42 GMT
#57
Who cares. I can't imagine a worse use of the limited time we have on earth than win trading on SC2. Let them waste their life.
ModeratorGodfather
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 28 2010 13:45 GMT
#58
I would actually argue that the 20+ Dark Voice icon guys who worker rushed for 6,000 games damaged the ladder more than these guys do.
The morality of doing such a thing can be brought into question, but calling it cheating is just delusional. It's only pixels.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
October 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#59
Why in the hell would you care??? It is just a tiny damn portrait!
Competent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
October 28 2010 15:13 GMT
#60
I understand what they are doing but I would like someone to answer me two questions. Does this affect you in some way? Is it really worth getting upset and posting on the forums?
Nurrrhhh, I'm gonna be A+ by Wendsday! -Day[9] "I'm going to spread out my lings so it looks like there is more. Lots of animals do that." -CatZ
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