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It seems there are new ways of getting free wins, oh irony. People will kill each other only to have awesome avatar that means shit.
I just found a profile of a guy, that plays only with 3 other people ON LADDER. The games last like few seconds, where one of them just surrenders and they switch.
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1488329/Tonfisken
Here's the guy. If u want to see it, add him to your friend list and see it for yourself. All they do is play against each other in their own circle of 3 people (Tonfisken, Shade, Trooper).
Here's what one of them said on official forums:
The thing is though, I'm not related to, or affiliated with Tonfisken or any other win-trader in any way. If I actually remember correctly, I met another guy almost twice as much as Tonfisken so your logic is very shaky. This account is simply a trial CD key I activated to try this out. But I've got bored of it already.
Also as a final note, I'd like to reinforce that there's no cheats/multiple-SC2 clients involved here. There is just a lot (30+) people doing it at any given time. And just like the people in Random Team, these people won't get banned either because (once again) there is nothing that breaks rules going on. Regardless how unethical it is in practice.
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Like they said no cheat involved they are just some nerds that got bored of sc2.. wasting time.
meh.
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Avatars and Achievements make SC2 better... glad resources went there.
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I read about this method of cheating, but I don't understand it. I can see how it'd work for some of the achievements, but OP, since you wrote "ON LADDER" in caps, how do they guarantee they'll get each other in quick matches?
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On October 28 2010 17:49 aNDRoM wrote:
I read about this method of cheating, but I don't understand it. I can see how it'd work for some of the achievements, but OP, since you wrote "ON LADDER" in caps, how do they guarantee they'll get each other in quick matches?
This. I don't understand either.
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Honestly who cares. If they want to waste time getting stupid portraits then good for them. I am in no way jealous that they are wasting tons of hours trying to exploit the system and neither should you be.
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You state "avatar that means shit", yet are complaining about it? Who cares what they do?
By the way, this is old news. Was reported over a month ago.
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On October 28 2010 17:53 slam wrote:
Honestly who cares. If they want to waste time getting stupid portrait then good for them. I am in no way jealous that they are wasting tons of hours trying to exploit the system and neither should you.
Fact that they can make BNet to make them play only against each other. Means that it may evolve into FORCED wins. Where they dont even care about playing against each other, it will somewhat just start game and force "Surrender" from other player.
This is clearly some way of cheating, and "Just because it doesnt affects me - i dont care" attitude is so ignorant until it starts to affect you and you will be first in line with whine.
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On October 28 2010 17:52 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 17:49 aNDRoM wrote:
I read about this method of cheating, but I don't understand it. I can see how it'd work for some of the achievements, but OP, since you wrote "ON LADDER" in caps, how do they guarantee they'll get each other in quick matches? This. I don't understand either.
to my understanding, they each first lose a lot of games so their MMR is very very low, and since the rating system only matches you based on your MMR, then they always get eachother...
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They get matched up against each other on ladder because their MMRs are so low that it only matches them against each other.
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We've had this conversation before, Blizzard is aware of this, and if they deem it cheating they'll do something about it.
I think it's gaming the system and therefore bad, but don't you have better things to do than e-stalk people?
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On October 28 2010 17:56 Thunderfist wrote:This is clearly some way of cheating, and "Just because it doesnt affects me - i dont care" attitude is so ignorant until it starts to affect you and you will be first in line with whine.
HOW can it affect me? It doesn't affect ANYONE. They attain a 50% W/L and are in the bottom of bronze league. Oh noez.
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Jeez,. Nevermind. I just dont care about this shit anymore.
Leech mode on.
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On October 28 2010 17:56 Thunderfist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 17:53 slam wrote:
Honestly who cares. If they want to waste time getting stupid portrait then good for them. I am in no way jealous that they are wasting tons of hours trying to exploit the system and neither should you. Fact that they can make BNet to make them play only against each other. Means that it may evolve into FORCED wins. Where they dont even care about playing against each other, it will somewhat just start game and force "Surrender" from other player. This is clearly some way of cheating, and "Just because it doesnt affects me - i dont care" attitude is so ignorant until it starts to affect you and you will be first in line with whine.
They are not cheating and been discussed before, have a look here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=157680¤tpage=All
and for a statement from one doing it (in that thread) and how it works here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=157680¤tpage=2#33
It might be considered an exploit of bnet's match-making system but i leave that up to Blizzard. They are not using any 3-rdparty software or changing any files, and are in no way "forcing" the other player to surrender.
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On October 28 2010 17:56 Thunderfist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 17:53 slam wrote:
Honestly who cares. If they want to waste time getting stupid portrait then good for them. I am in no way jealous that they are wasting tons of hours trying to exploit the system and neither should you. Fact that they can make BNet to make them play only against each other. Means that it may evolve into FORCED wins. Where they dont even care about playing against each other, it will somewhat just start game and force "Surrender" from other player. This is clearly some way of cheating, and "Just because it doesnt affects me - i dont care" attitude is so ignorant until it starts to affect you and you will be first in line with whine. How would this possibly affect me?
Even if they do somehow find a way to make it to the top of the ladder, they're still going to suck. I don't give a shit if someone is getting free points.
But thats not even what they're doing, they're just getting free wins for stupid achievements and portraits. If they want to waste their time doing it, let them. It really doesn't affect you.
You might as well complain about an actually good player losing all of his games on purpose so he can be demoted to bronze and just 6 pooling every game so he can get a ton of "free wins".
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I don't particularly care, but it would be absolutely hilarious if blizzard took away the achievement destroying hundreds of hours of work that these people have ground to get their pictures.
And because their tears would be so delicious, I support banning 100%.
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Please, people, don't ever argue against "It doesn't affect me so I don't care" with stupid slippery slopes.
There's reason to care about fair play even if the rule breaking never affects you.
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I have a friend who does this for hours. It blows my mind that they can grind icons doing this. I guess they are WoW players though so grinding acheivements is fun to them :/
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On October 28 2010 18:11 kojinshugi wrote:
There's reason to care about fair play even if the rule breaking never affects you.
What rule are they breaking?
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