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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 15 2010 02:42 GMT
#121
On October 15 2010 07:27 rlagksquf wrote:
if they like console so much, why do they still lose to Koreans? such as Tekken


iirc correctly its only tekken heh. check what happened when korea asked for jap sf4/ssf4 players to come to their home turf.

i always feel this is a cultural thing what type of game/genre is competitive/popular
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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
October 15 2010 02:43 GMT
#122
japan doesn't really care about pc gaming for the most part unfortunately...

they do like halo though...
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
October 15 2010 02:49 GMT
#123
Western games dont do well in Japan. They may only sell a decent amount. Their small PC gaming market is dominated by their own local indie/visual novel developers.

But yea Japan has a culture of competitive gaming too, but it's all focused on the fight game genre.
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kingdoop
Profile Joined August 2010
United States24 Posts
October 15 2010 02:54 GMT
#124
There is a Japanese team attending WEM in China. Don't really know any other Japanese teams besides them.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
October 15 2010 03:03 GMT
#125
On October 15 2010 11:49 bubblegumbo wrote:
Western games dont do well in Japan. They may only sell a decent amount. Their small PC gaming market is dominated by their own local indie/visual novel developers.

But yea Japan has a culture of competitive gaming too, but it's all focused on the fight game genre.

It's because Japanese people are xenophobic and hate those whities.

Just kidding.

But yeah it seems like only Japanese products do well in Japan. I wonder why western stuff isn't as appealing to them, other than that it's from another region.

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forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
October 15 2010 03:28 GMT
#126
I'll tell you what is big in Japan...

GIGITY GIGITY GOO!

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Masayoshi
Profile Joined October 2010
9 Posts
October 15 2010 03:33 GMT
#127
A lot of it is that the majority of young adults in Japan don't play video games seriously because they fear being branded as an otaku (or just have no interest in it). The otaku are obviously there, but they are a minority and usually have specific tastes that tend not to focus on dirty middle aged white dudes killing alien bugs.

High school and younger kids play video games a lot, but they have plenty of other games to play that are more easily accessible, in their own language, and targeted to their age. Contrary to what you might think, very few people in Japan understand English well enough to play english language video games.

There is also the fact that Japanese PCs (as in the ones most people own) are like 5-10 years behind the rest of the world and their ability to use PCs is probably 15 years behind the rest of the world.

Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 15 2010 03:36 GMT
#128
japanese have a progaming scene buts not really pc if i am correct. with that said there are plenty of japanese that play sc. the real question is, why havent there been big japanese players. that has always tickled my curiosity.
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matsujun
Profile Joined October 2010
Japan9 Posts
October 15 2010 03:40 GMT
#129
I am an admin. of Japanese SC2 community site.
Starcraft2 JP Community

Why isn't SC2 big in japan? There is no SC2 CM in Japan, so most of Japaneses don't know SC2. Fighting game is much popular? Yes. SuperStreetFighter4 Tourney broadcast live was watched more than 14,000 viewers at the same time. Such as Halo or American Football in US, Japanese gaming has its own trend. In Japan, the number of FPS players is more than 10 times the RTS players. May be Fighting game is much more.

This lists some players staying in Japan.
http://sc2ranks.com/c/586/jpmaster
In IRC, there are about 400 ppl joining in SC2 channel.
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
October 15 2010 03:55 GMT
#130
i wanna live in japan so bad it hurts. im planning on moving there mid next year. finding space for my pc + desk etc will be tricky in the apartment ill probably have. (depending on where i choose to live)

i wouldn't worry about buying an asian server copy of the game though. the internet infrastructure is world class there.. i doubt i will lag playin the SEA server.
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sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
October 15 2010 04:23 GMT
#131
Wow... 7 pages in and I'm probably the only person in this thread that works in Japan in the game industry.

Anyway, PC games at large are not big here because staying indoors a lot is culturally frowned upon, our apartments are too small anyway, and those tiny apartments don't lend well to owning anything other than a tiny laptop. Arcade games and portable games are big because you're out-and-about, it is mildly social, compact (or doesn't even come home), etc.

Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined.
www.negitaku.org

www.pureesports.com
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 15 2010 05:23 GMT
#132
On October 15 2010 13:23 sk` wrote:
Wow... 7 pages in and I'm probably the only person in this thread that works in Japan in the game industry.

Anyway, PC games at large are not big here because staying indoors a lot is culturally frowned upon, our apartments are too small anyway, and those tiny apartments don't lend well to owning anything other than a tiny laptop. Arcade games and portable games are big because you're out-and-about, it is mildly social, compact (or doesn't even come home), etc.

Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined.
www.negitaku.org


It's great that you live there and all but you still have comparatively very little wisdom for us. Merely echoing what has already been said.

btw, I really don't know why you're surprised that you're the only one (supposedly at least) working in the Japanese gaming industry. This is a website in English about a game that has no fanbase in Japan.
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StriverzG
Profile Joined March 2010
United States115 Posts
October 15 2010 05:34 GMT
#133
PC games in general are not popular at all in Japan.
Sun Tzu once said..
matsujun
Profile Joined October 2010
Japan9 Posts
October 15 2010 05:44 GMT
#134
On October 15 2010 13:23 sk` wrote:
Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined.
www.negitaku.org


must not. I know at least 1500 of SC2 package was sold in Japan.
kmkg
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan186 Posts
October 15 2010 05:47 GMT
#135
PC gaming in Japan is mostly dating and porn games. There are niche FPS and RTS communities though, with solid players.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 15 2010 05:50 GMT
#136
Japan does have sc players, but PC games as a whole is dead in Japan.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
October 15 2010 05:51 GMT
#137
On October 15 2010 02:25 Eknoid4 wrote:
Probably because Japan makes and plays its own games a lot more. Also, there is no K-On in starcraft 2.

And no Touhou, discounting that one map, which will make girls laugh at your penis size because it's as hard as easy modo.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 05:56:18
October 15 2010 05:55 GMT
#138
On October 15 2010 02:31 okuraku wrote:
Most of the comments are off in my opinion.. there are plenty of uber competitive japanese gamers - just look at any music game at any random arcade anywhere in the country, you'll find someone better than you could be after a month's training lol.

I think the biggest reason SC and WoW are not big in Japan is that they aren't localized there.. so just starting to consider it you are in the realm of "underground" and "youge". Which, is still fairly large - PC youge's have a fairly good following but they don't typically hit mainstream... I think another big factor is that PC gaming is fairly small because of the cost of entry both moneywise and how much space you need (don't laugh, there's a reason the first nintendo was called Family Computer). Also, PC gaming as you know is saturated with eroge & dating sims, If you go to any old non-import PC game soft store I guarantee upwards of 75% of the inventory will be those.

MMOs are about the only thing that gets "big" in Japan on PC gaming side, I would say. Mostly because they aren't that available on consoles (yet).

Just want to summarize that I think the lack of localization of basically any blizzard game (no sparkling history like they have elsewhere) is the biggest factor. I mean consider if SC2 wasn't localized to South Korean (I know, farfetched).. would it be as big as it is, if you had to jump through all kinds of hoops to even buy the thing & then log onto a server outside of your country?

SC1 was localized to Japanese
SC1 was not localized to Korean

I dont think localization has much to do with it

EDIT: Bleh I really need to start checking how many pages threads are
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KatakurikoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Japan1 Post
October 15 2010 05:58 GMT
#139
Because of the weakened foreign developper's brand power. Japanese publishers don't actively localize and promote foreign products. Even legendary games like Diablo are not so famous among us.
I wanna mention that theres some otakus who wants to spread good games from west, anonymously make localize patches for satisfying small demands, introduce games on vidsites. the population is increasing gradually I guess, but Youge, especially of RTS is still not on mainstream.

By the great Manga influence, You might agree that most japanese kids would choose Pokemon rather than the game shows a horrible monster which shoutes "Haaa, Fresh meat!".
Old consoles like NES and SNES,Playstation exclusively ruled so long time enough to let these kids become adults. Thus It is often said that major Japanese gamers don't like masuculine heroes like Conan. And also note that SF genre(except Star Wars) is not popular at all in Japan.

WoW woud have been successful if with good localization and promotion, but I think SC2 is another story.
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
October 15 2010 06:03 GMT
#140
probablly only because they only play J RPGs I dont wanna be part of that culture and they prob dunt wanna be part of ours :/
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