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On October 15 2010 07:27 rlagksquf wrote: if they like console so much, why do they still lose to Koreans? such as Tekken
iirc correctly its only tekken heh. check what happened when korea asked for jap sf4/ssf4 players to come to their home turf.
i always feel this is a cultural thing what type of game/genre is competitive/popular
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japan doesn't really care about pc gaming for the most part unfortunately...
they do like halo though...
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Western games dont do well in Japan. They may only sell a decent amount. Their small PC gaming market is dominated by their own local indie/visual novel developers.
But yea Japan has a culture of competitive gaming too, but it's all focused on the fight game genre.
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There is a Japanese team attending WEM in China. Don't really know any other Japanese teams besides them.
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On October 15 2010 11:49 bubblegumbo wrote: Western games dont do well in Japan. They may only sell a decent amount. Their small PC gaming market is dominated by their own local indie/visual novel developers.
But yea Japan has a culture of competitive gaming too, but it's all focused on the fight game genre. It's because Japanese people are xenophobic and hate those whities.
Just kidding.
But yeah it seems like only Japanese products do well in Japan. I wonder why western stuff isn't as appealing to them, other than that it's from another region.
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I'll tell you what is big in Japan...
GIGITY GIGITY GOO!
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A lot of it is that the majority of young adults in Japan don't play video games seriously because they fear being branded as an otaku (or just have no interest in it). The otaku are obviously there, but they are a minority and usually have specific tastes that tend not to focus on dirty middle aged white dudes killing alien bugs.
High school and younger kids play video games a lot, but they have plenty of other games to play that are more easily accessible, in their own language, and targeted to their age. Contrary to what you might think, very few people in Japan understand English well enough to play english language video games.
There is also the fact that Japanese PCs (as in the ones most people own) are like 5-10 years behind the rest of the world and their ability to use PCs is probably 15 years behind the rest of the world.
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japanese have a progaming scene buts not really pc if i am correct. with that said there are plenty of japanese that play sc. the real question is, why havent there been big japanese players. that has always tickled my curiosity.
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I am an admin. of Japanese SC2 community site. Starcraft2 JP Community
Why isn't SC2 big in japan? There is no SC2 CM in Japan, so most of Japaneses don't know SC2. Fighting game is much popular? Yes. SuperStreetFighter4 Tourney broadcast live was watched more than 14,000 viewers at the same time. Such as Halo or American Football in US, Japanese gaming has its own trend. In Japan, the number of FPS players is more than 10 times the RTS players. May be Fighting game is much more.
This lists some players staying in Japan. http://sc2ranks.com/c/586/jpmaster In IRC, there are about 400 ppl joining in SC2 channel.
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i wanna live in japan so bad it hurts. im planning on moving there mid next year. finding space for my pc + desk etc will be tricky in the apartment ill probably have. (depending on where i choose to live)
i wouldn't worry about buying an asian server copy of the game though. the internet infrastructure is world class there.. i doubt i will lag playin the SEA server.
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Wow... 7 pages in and I'm probably the only person in this thread that works in Japan in the game industry.
Anyway, PC games at large are not big here because staying indoors a lot is culturally frowned upon, our apartments are too small anyway, and those tiny apartments don't lend well to owning anything other than a tiny laptop. Arcade games and portable games are big because you're out-and-about, it is mildly social, compact (or doesn't even come home), etc.
Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined. www.negitaku.org
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On October 15 2010 13:23 sk` wrote:Wow... 7 pages in and I'm probably the only person in this thread that works in Japan in the game industry. Anyway, PC games at large are not big here because staying indoors a lot is culturally frowned upon, our apartments are too small anyway, and those tiny apartments don't lend well to owning anything other than a tiny laptop. Arcade games and portable games are big because you're out-and-about, it is mildly social, compact (or doesn't even come home), etc. Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined. www.negitaku.org It's great that you live there and all but you still have comparatively very little wisdom for us. Merely echoing what has already been said.
btw, I really don't know why you're surprised that you're the only one (supposedly at least) working in the Japanese gaming industry. This is a website in English about a game that has no fanbase in Japan.
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PC games in general are not popular at all in Japan.
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On October 15 2010 13:23 sk` wrote:Japan does have SC and SC2 players, but I would say it is less than 1000 for both combined. www.negitaku.org
must not. I know at least 1500 of SC2 package was sold in Japan.
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PC gaming in Japan is mostly dating and porn games. There are niche FPS and RTS communities though, with solid players.
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Japan does have sc players, but PC games as a whole is dead in Japan.
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On October 15 2010 02:25 Eknoid4 wrote: Probably because Japan makes and plays its own games a lot more. Also, there is no K-On in starcraft 2. And no Touhou, discounting that one map, which will make girls laugh at your penis size because it's as hard as easy modo.
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On October 15 2010 02:31 okuraku wrote: Most of the comments are off in my opinion.. there are plenty of uber competitive japanese gamers - just look at any music game at any random arcade anywhere in the country, you'll find someone better than you could be after a month's training lol.
I think the biggest reason SC and WoW are not big in Japan is that they aren't localized there.. so just starting to consider it you are in the realm of "underground" and "youge". Which, is still fairly large - PC youge's have a fairly good following but they don't typically hit mainstream... I think another big factor is that PC gaming is fairly small because of the cost of entry both moneywise and how much space you need (don't laugh, there's a reason the first nintendo was called Family Computer). Also, PC gaming as you know is saturated with eroge & dating sims, If you go to any old non-import PC game soft store I guarantee upwards of 75% of the inventory will be those.
MMOs are about the only thing that gets "big" in Japan on PC gaming side, I would say. Mostly because they aren't that available on consoles (yet).
Just want to summarize that I think the lack of localization of basically any blizzard game (no sparkling history like they have elsewhere) is the biggest factor. I mean consider if SC2 wasn't localized to South Korean (I know, farfetched).. would it be as big as it is, if you had to jump through all kinds of hoops to even buy the thing & then log onto a server outside of your country? SC1 was localized to Japanese SC1 was not localized to Korean
I dont think localization has much to do with it 
EDIT: Bleh I really need to start checking how many pages threads are
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Because of the weakened foreign developper's brand power. Japanese publishers don't actively localize and promote foreign products. Even legendary games like Diablo are not so famous among us. I wanna mention that theres some otakus who wants to spread good games from west, anonymously make localize patches for satisfying small demands, introduce games on vidsites. the population is increasing gradually I guess, but Youge, especially of RTS is still not on mainstream.
By the great Manga influence, You might agree that most japanese kids would choose Pokemon rather than the game shows a horrible monster which shoutes "Haaa, Fresh meat!". Old consoles like NES and SNES,Playstation exclusively ruled so long time enough to let these kids become adults. Thus It is often said that major Japanese gamers don't like masuculine heroes like Conan. And also note that SF genre(except Star Wars) is not popular at all in Japan.
WoW woud have been successful if with good localization and promotion, but I think SC2 is another story.
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probablly only because they only play J RPGs I dont wanna be part of that culture and they prob dunt wanna be part of ours :/
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