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Why isn't SC2 big in Japan?

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echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
October 14 2010 17:24 GMT
#1
The range of countries from the posters on this site are amazing. I had no idea who Fenix was until he won the IEM, and was admittedly shocked that he was from South America - I didn't even know there was a scene down there. Anyhow, with Korea being the powerhouse of SC2 gaming and a bit of a burgeoning Chinese scene, I was wondering how the SC2 scene in Japan is? It seems like it should be a nobrainer considering the gamer culture there. Any thoughts or theories?
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
October 14 2010 17:25 GMT
#2
Probably because Japan makes and plays its own games a lot more. Also, there is no K-On in starcraft 2.
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Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
October 14 2010 17:26 GMT
#3
I think Japan leans very towards arcade gaming as their primary proscene... Japanese SF4, KOF, Arcana Hearts, all insane...
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Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
October 14 2010 17:26 GMT
#4
Their gamer culture is largely focused on handhelds. (DS has sold over 30 million, PSP has sold 15 million) and not so much on gaming at home.

That...and Poke'mon, and anything else made by Nintendo, eats up all their time!
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
October 14 2010 17:26 GMT
#5
from how i see it, japanese gamers are not that competitive, they just enjoy games generally, the only true competition in Japan is from fighting games/arcade games
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
October 14 2010 17:26 GMT
#6
Japans gaming culture is almost exclusively Japanese consoles. From what I understand is high end PCs are a rarity over there to the point where Blizz didn't bother making a localized Japanese version and does not even sell SC2 there. If you want SC2 in japan you need to order it from another country.
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okuraku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 17:32:41
October 14 2010 17:31 GMT
#7
Most of the comments are off in my opinion.. there are plenty of uber competitive japanese gamers - just look at any music game at any random arcade anywhere in the country, you'll find someone better than you could be after a month's training lol.

I think the biggest reason SC and WoW are not big in Japan is that they aren't localized there.. so just starting to consider it you are in the realm of "underground" and "youge". Which, is still fairly large - PC youge's have a fairly good following but they don't typically hit mainstream... I think another big factor is that PC gaming is fairly small because of the cost of entry both moneywise and how much space you need (don't laugh, there's a reason the first nintendo was called Family Computer). Also, PC gaming as you know is saturated with eroge & dating sims, If you go to any old non-import PC game soft store I guarantee upwards of 75% of the inventory will be those.

MMOs are about the only thing that gets "big" in Japan on PC gaming side, I would say. Mostly because they aren't that available on consoles (yet).

Just want to summarize that I think the lack of localization of basically any blizzard game (no sparkling history like they have elsewhere) is the biggest factor. I mean consider if SC2 wasn't localized to South Korean (I know, farfetched).. would it be as big as it is, if you had to jump through all kinds of hoops to even buy the thing & then log onto a server outside of your country?
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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 14 2010 17:31 GMT
#8
Sony PS3 = console (which don't have RTS)
Sony PSP = handheld console (which don't have RTS)
Nintendo franchise (alot) = (handheld) console (which don't have RTS)
Fighting games = not RTS
Pokemon = not RTS

so as you can see. Almost every game that comes out of Japan is either on a system that isn't good at all for RTS, or just not an RTS straight up.

So all the would-be japanese RTS players are having too much fun playing SF4, Mario, and Pokemon (obv others but for the sake of argument) and don't know too much, or don't care too much, to play RTS at a competitive level like the Koreans, who don't make any games as far as i know.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 14 2010 17:31 GMT
#9
oh boy, please google about hows the pc market works in japan hints:consoles, H-games.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
StarSense
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
206 Posts
October 14 2010 17:32 GMT
#10
Japan revolutionized consoles. Korea banned Japanese stuff for a while. Thus you have the great East Asia console / PC divide.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
October 14 2010 17:32 GMT
#11
SC2 and SC1 have never been big. There was a site set up in like 2008 if I remember right (http://sc-times.net/) and I think Tossgirl played a showmatch against Nada, but this is all from like 2008/2007. Some TL guy did some japanese commentaries awhile ago but I have completely forgotten as well.

The reason to me seems that most people in Japan do not use PC's that much in general. When I was living there, almost everyone I knew liked to play games, but there a lot of local arcades and whatever which are much more popular than pc's. Also handheld consoles dominate a lot more than PC's. It's just not really a computer culture I guess.
MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
October 14 2010 17:33 GMT
#12
Agreed with most of what the above posters say. they have their own breed of games, such as 2-d fighter arcade style games that they go gaga over.

SC2 really has no place there. But plenty Japanese do play SC2, just not as a nation.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 14 2010 17:33 GMT
#13
They play arcade games.

They are the Korea of Tekken, Street Fighter, crossup games etc.

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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 14 2010 17:34 GMT
#14
In Japan console games are a huge market, pc market not so much.. When I was there I saw only one add for SC2 and it was at it's release.
So it's not like there isn't any PC players, but they are quite a minority
okuraku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
October 14 2010 17:36 GMT
#15
On October 15 2010 02:34 Piski wrote:
In Japan console games are a huge market, pc market not so much.. When I was there I saw only one add for SC2 and it was at it's release.
So it's not like there isn't any PC players, but they are quite a minority


You sure about that? I'm pretty sure SC2 isn't available in Japan unless it's imported, and they'd have zero reason to advertise for it in that case..

http://kotaku.com/5590298/where-isnt-starcraft-ii-launching
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StimCraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 17:40:50
October 14 2010 17:39 GMT
#16
On October 15 2010 02:25 Eknoid4 wrote:
Probably because Japan makes and plays its own games a lot more. Also, there is no K-On in starcraft 2.


LOL.

and ff14 (mmo) just went into beta i believe
shou0630
Profile Joined March 2010
China30 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 17:42:20
October 14 2010 17:41 GMT
#17
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Borked
Profile Joined October 2010
221 Posts
October 14 2010 17:44 GMT
#18
I really would like bw / sc2 scene in Japan my favourite country in the far east.
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Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
October 14 2010 17:46 GMT
#19
Because Japanese always concentrate on features and StarCraft II really doesn't have an outstanding one, just a solid mix of good(ish) and a few bad ones.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
October 14 2010 17:51 GMT
#20
Japan also has a decide FPS community mainly focus on CS and Sudden Attack. I know while I was in Japan and for a odd reason you have a DS you will be able to play or play against someone(ex: Dragon Quest, Pokemon) in RL somewhere around Akihabara.
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