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epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
October 14 2010 19:02 GMT
#41
Console gaming.

Although apparently there is a growing number of FPS gamers growing in Japan.
muzzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States640 Posts
October 14 2010 19:03 GMT
#42
As others have said- It's nothing to do with StarCraft or RTS, it has everything to do with the fact that they don't use PCs for gaming in Japan.
In fact, PCs are barely used for anything other than work in Japan. Most internet entertainment/content is done through mobile devices.
Just a totally different market over there.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
October 14 2010 19:03 GMT
#43
On October 15 2010 03:54 Tiax;mous wrote:
i don't know much about gaming in Japan so not much to contribute but I'm seriously shocked that no one said
+ Show Spoiler +
because Alphaville

yet.


What? The band? The movie?
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
October 14 2010 19:07 GMT
#44
Their gaming culture is based around arcades and handhelds. Sure home consoles too.
attackfighter
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada308 Posts
October 14 2010 19:09 GMT
#45
Japan is mostly into casual games like RPG's not competitive games, also they mainly have a console gaming culture not a PC one... just look what all their games are made for: either playstation or nintendo.
se468
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada3 Posts
October 14 2010 19:16 GMT
#46
On October 15 2010 02:31 Keitzer wrote:
Sony PS3 = console (which don't have RTS)
Sony PSP = handheld console (which don't have RTS)
Nintendo franchise (alot) = (handheld) console (which don't have RTS)
Fighting games = not RTS
Pokemon = not RTS

so as you can see. Almost every game that comes out of Japan is either on a system that isn't good at all for RTS, or just not an RTS straight up.

So all the would-be japanese RTS players are having too much fun playing SF4, Mario, and Pokemon (obv others but for the sake of argument) and don't know too much, or don't care too much, to play RTS at a competitive level like the Koreans, who don't make any games as far as i know.


Koreans make so many games, like mmorpg and rts and strategy games, and even some console games. I don't know where you get the idea that Koreans don't make any games.
Shamaya
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan65 Posts
October 14 2010 19:27 GMT
#47
I live here in Japan and I've only met one person on the American ladder who's I've found to be JP. I think they're localized on the Asia server, naturally.

I've seen ads for SC2, but few. Mainly, I saw little stands set up in front of game shops in Tokyo's infamous Akihabara (electronics / gaming / porn capital of the world). It seemed like they were giving the game the quality treatment, but regardless, it hasn't really hit off here. Japanese people really aren't all about RTS I guess. JP gaming is dying, sadly.
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KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
October 14 2010 19:35 GMT
#48
Japanese don't really like to play foreign games, and their tastes are completely different from ours. When I was over there I visited a big game store, with multiple stories dedicated to different games. One of the floors was all American games, and they had a big Gears of War 2 display at the time. The funny thing is the floor was pretty much deserted. There was also a floor for dating sims/H games and it had several people browsing, so case in point I suppose.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
October 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#49
On October 15 2010 04:27 Shamaya wrote:
I live here in Japan and I've only met one person on the American ladder who's I've found to be JP. I think they're localized on the Asia server, naturally.

I've seen ads for SC2, but few. Mainly, I saw little stands set up in front of game shops in Tokyo's infamous Akihabara (electronics / gaming / porn capital of the world). It seemed like they were giving the game the quality treatment, but regardless, it hasn't really hit off here. Japanese people really aren't all about RTS I guess. JP gaming is dying, sadly.

Yea I visited Akihabara recently (like in August, was just passing through, on towards Harajuku/Omotosando ) and the most major reason I think is:
Market share.

How many Japanese play RTS competitively? If you go to Akihabara, you will see literally crouds of people huddling around in a pack; 20+ ppl all playing at a DS link-up multiplayer station. IMO it's the lack of real 'handheld' appeal that doesn't make SC stand out. In addition, us foreigners revere Japanese fantasy (I mean manga, anime, FF etc.) but this love for foreign fantasy is not shared in Japan, they don't really care about foreign animated stuff (well to my knowledge).
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deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
October 14 2010 19:51 GMT
#50
On October 15 2010 02:39 StimCraft wrote:

and ff14 (mmo) just went into beta i believe


FFXIV is out. And it's terrible. I already purchased it and quit within a couple of weeks, because I kept thinking, "This is boring, I should just go play SC2." I played FFXI and liked it years ago, but this one is a joke. It might as well be in beta, it's so buggy and plays so poorly.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2540 Posts
October 14 2010 19:57 GMT
#51
Japan is too busy playing Virtua Fighter. Like 99% of arcades have half Virtua Fighter machines.
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
October 14 2010 20:21 GMT
#52
On October 15 2010 02:32 StarSense wrote:
Japan revolutionized consoles. Korea banned Japanese stuff for a while. Thus you have the great East Asia console / PC divide.


^^ This.

I think it's tough to crack into the Japan's gaming market when Nintendo and Sony is from Japan. Take a look at the xbox 360, they've been [somewhat] trying for years to crack into the japanese market and it's still in third place by far when compared to the Wii and PS3.

Also I think the PCs in Japan can't run SC2. I know that SC2's system requirement isn't sky high, but the average computer in Japan is probably a lot less beefier than in america. I have no statistics or and have never been to japan but my reasoning is that there's absolutely no reason to upgrade a perfectly working PC unless if you need it for work or if you play PC games. Seeing how the majority of Japan's pc gaming market seem to consist of low end porn/anime games, I doubt many of them do upgrade to play the latest games.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
October 14 2010 20:22 GMT
#53
because they do and love jrpg ...
and online gaming has never been big in japan, exception of monster hunter and slightest ff xi and now xiv
klauz619
Profile Joined July 2010
453 Posts
October 14 2010 20:30 GMT
#54
They only play locally made animu games.

There's a reason a lot of gaming companies do not cater or bother with them, except for microsoft who thinks more than maybe 5% of the japanese gamer population would ever touch an xbox.
laste
Profile Joined November 2008
Bulgaria242 Posts
October 14 2010 20:33 GMT
#55


Aah big in Japan - tonight! Big in Japan-be-tight. Big in Japan the eastern sea's so blueeee
Everybody will be in bronze soon, because Tasteless will have all our ladder points.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
October 14 2010 20:50 GMT
#56
Japan gave me Fate Stay Night hentai game which gave me the anime so I'm happy with all that Japanese gaming has given me!
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
October 14 2010 20:52 GMT
#57
Because Japan has been playing DQ/Pokemon/J-RPG/FFXI-timesink rehashes for the past two decades and they have no intentions of stopping. I mean this in the most objective way possible, but Japan has one of the most pathetic entertainment cultures there is.
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 14 2010 20:58 GMT
#58
It's kind of hilarious how people think that Japanese gamers are all casual
Look beyond your one true RTS way, will you? There are mainstream gamers and there are fringe gamers, and the Japanese hardcore are hardcore as fuck. It's like saying every American only plays Call of Duty, which is blatantly wrong.
yamabuki
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6 Posts
October 14 2010 20:59 GMT
#59
As awesome as Starcraft 2 is, it isn't the only game in the world. There's Civilization 5 which seems to be ruining just as many people's lives as Starcraft 2.

And I really don't think it's a matter of PC vs Consoles. There are plenty of powerful PCs in the Japanese market. Pretty cheap too.

It's more a matter of tastes. Some people prefer avatars of rugged middle-age guys smelling of sweat, smoke and gunpowder. Others prefer something like this:


I myself never got into WoW because the avatars never appealed to me.

eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
October 14 2010 21:02 GMT
#60
On October 15 2010 05:21 crazeman wrote:

Also I think the PCs in Japan can't run SC2. I know that SC2's system requirement isn't sky high, but the average computer in Japan is probably a lot less beefier than in america. I have no statistics or and have never been to japan but my reasoning is that there's absolutely no reason to upgrade a perfectly working PC unless if you need it for work or if you play PC games. Seeing how the majority of Japan's pc gaming market seem to consist of low end porn/anime games, I doubt many of them do upgrade to play the latest games.


i would figure FFXIV to have stricter requirements than SC2.

and although Raynor's model in SC2 does fit ridiculous anime body proportions, zerg units don't have enough tentacles.
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