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GIGAR
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark88 Posts
September 26 2010 08:03 GMT
#1441
On September 26 2010 13:51 Odds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 11:19 dbddbddb wrote:
it's hard to make changes to zerg when it really only affects the top 0.5% of players.

Really?

You think that the race that requires perfect scouting, and nearly precogniscient reaction time isn't a problem? It's not a problem that one race can instantly lose to any number of ridiculous cheeses from either of the other races- to which the only counter is often pure guesswork?

Raw ignorance. If you think it is this bad for pro players right now, how awful do you think it is for Bronze, Silver, Gold players to play Zerg? They either don't know how or lack the ability to make the absolutely perfect moves required of them simply to stay in the game against an even lower skilled T or P, who can just build any number of any unit, attack move, and win.

When every player of a race is repeatedly punished simply for picking the wrong faction, and when he instantly loses games for not having perfect timing, perfect scouting, and perfect decision making, even when outplaying an inferior opponent, there is a problem. A problem that affects far more than the tiny number you'd like to believe.

It is extremely frustrating to play Z right now because you are always forced to play the game that the Terran or Protoss player wants you to play. Even if you play their game, and you play it better, you're still extremely liable to lose to one void ray, one dropship, or one Thor. Zerg needs options. I really hope they get them soon.


This is all true.
Mutabane or Mutaling seems to give Zerg some of that game-deciding power, but 2 (3) units is just not enough.

Also, I'm going to write your quote down.
"it pisses me off that blizzard's reaction time to terran tears is about 14 seconds, but apparently the massive oceanic sea of zerg tears is caused by l2p-issues"
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 08:08:00
September 26 2010 08:07 GMT
#1442
On September 26 2010 16:31 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Nothing that cool does matters unless he puts some major W's in his repitwa. Im talkin about wins people!


o.O I'd say beating ogs.TOP in a major tournament BO3 is something he can put in his trophy case...

EDIT: Nevermind if you're being sarcastic, ah teh internetz
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Castles
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 08:47:00
September 26 2010 08:45 GMT
#1443
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious
ITSGOD
berzerger
Profile Joined September 2010
Turkey95 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 09:07:50
September 26 2010 09:07 GMT
#1444
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
September 26 2010 09:39 GMT
#1445
MuRdeR claims he beats everyone on his team whenever he picks Zerg. "So there's no imbalance, lol" basically. Didn't provide replays or anything to back it up though. This was prepatch btw.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
September 26 2010 09:50 GMT
#1446
On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.

He said something along the line of " I can win any tournament with zerg". But after seeing him play and trashtalk yesterday i guess it was just another troll atempt.
When in doubt, just drone up.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
September 26 2010 10:06 GMT
#1447
On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.



...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching.
Liquid
s1eger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
September 26 2010 10:09 GMT
#1448
On September 26 2010 19:06 blae000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.



...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching.



cool is not switching after patch and top16 gsl. he said that, he said that statement before the patch.
cOoL
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
September 26 2010 10:48 GMT
#1449
Yeah, he realized that siege tanks now suck and banelings roll over a terran army, he said that somehwere, don't remember where i read it
Mato
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia412 Posts
September 26 2010 10:51 GMT
#1450
On September 26 2010 15:52 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 13:51 Odds wrote:
On September 26 2010 11:19 dbddbddb wrote:
it's hard to make changes to zerg when it really only affects the top 0.5% of players.

Raw ignorance. If you think it is this bad for pro players right now, how awful do you think it is for Bronze, Silver, Gold players to play Zerg? They either don't know how or lack the ability to make the absolutely perfect moves required of them simply to stay in the game against an even lower skilled T or P, who can just build any number of any unit, attack move, and win.

Take it from a Gold level Zerg, it's fucking awful trying to play. I'm determined to stick with it, but it is so frustrating that I can keep up a near constant harass, out expand a Terran 3 bases to 1, and his ball of stimmed marauders with 2 siege tanks can still just waltz in and destroy everything I have.

Now obviously I still have a lot of learning to do and tons of room to improve, but the frustration and problems affect every level of play, not just these top level pros. I still refuse to switch races though, because wins as Zerg feel so much more satisfying.


Sorry but Zerg is not the reason you are in gold. Pretty much anyone who isn't diamond has serious macro, micro, decision-making etc issues.
Keula
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany157 Posts
September 26 2010 11:02 GMT
#1451
On September 26 2010 19:09 s1eger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 19:06 blae000 wrote:
On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.



...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching.



cool is not switching after patch and top16 gsl. he said that, he said that statement before the patch.



If you click on the link to the korean page it says posted: 23.09.2010, but dunno
EG fan
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 26 2010 11:09 GMT
#1452
If you want proof, tell me one new zerg pro player that wasn't knwoed in BW way before.
Almost all zerg pro are old players. 90% of new players on the pro scene are terran. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
September 26 2010 11:14 GMT
#1453
im in diamond 1350 give take 50p, im a zerg, i still dont feel i have right to talk about imba. i think like z who have 1500-1600 have that right, so just normal diamond zergs pls stfu also terran and toss should admit that their race is better, though the game is not broken
cloud computing is the future
zhouzhou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada138 Posts
September 26 2010 11:25 GMT
#1454
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!

Zerg has always been, and will always be, the weakest race, yet difficult. They are, after all, the only race that uses a completely different method of producing. That's something that isn't very easy to balance.

In BW, if they didn't have the muta stacking and (hold)lurkers, they'd be the shittiest race ever. It took these little extras in order to balance them. You know much mutas suck when not micro'd?
Hell, just the style is enough to tell you Zerg is the weakest, when you need to always have more bases than T or P in order to be 'even'. This also applies to SC2 as well.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
September 26 2010 11:29 GMT
#1455
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious

The thing is all Terran matchups are interesting and fun to play, while ZvZ isn't just appealing at all. ZvP seems very bad and cheesy aswell.
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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 26 2010 11:33 GMT
#1456
On September 26 2010 18:50 Punkstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious


MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.

He said something along the line of " I can win any tournament with zerg". But after seeing him play and trashtalk yesterday i guess it was just another troll atempt.


Like he'd ever do that.
The man won't keep his word because he knows that it would be the end of his career.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 26 2010 11:35 GMT
#1457
On September 26 2010 20:29 iG.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious

The thing is all Terran matchups are interesting and fun to play, while ZvZ isn't just appealing at all. ZvP seems very bad and cheesy aswell.


Personally, I find ZvZ more fun than TvT. It's a much more mobile match-up.
Varmendrion
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany27 Posts
September 26 2010 11:37 GMT
#1458
Is there some new information that should be added to the top-post? I really wonder, if he is just whining or if he really will change.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
September 26 2010 11:45 GMT
#1459
All Zerg needs, is a Scourge like unit for Air. This would help them defend vs multi drops from Terran... who have become just too mobile.
Whats the altitude?
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
September 26 2010 11:49 GMT
#1460
On September 26 2010 16:31 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Nothing that cool does matters unless he puts some major W's in his repitwa. Im talkin about wins people!


Rofl he won the world cup for starters
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