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On September 26 2010 13:51 Odds wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 11:19 dbddbddb wrote:
it's hard to make changes to zerg when it really only affects the top 0.5% of players. Really? You think that the race that requires perfect scouting, and nearly precogniscient reaction time isn't a problem? It's not a problem that one race can instantly lose to any number of ridiculous cheeses from either of the other races- to which the only counter is often pure guesswork? Raw ignorance. If you think it is this bad for pro players right now, how awful do you think it is for Bronze, Silver, Gold players to play Zerg? They either don't know how or lack the ability to make the absolutely perfect moves required of them simply to stay in the game against an even lower skilled T or P, who can just build any number of any unit, attack move, and win. When every player of a race is repeatedly punished simply for picking the wrong faction, and when he instantly loses games for not having perfect timing, perfect scouting, and perfect decision making, even when outplaying an inferior opponent, there is a problem. A problem that affects far more than the tiny number you'd like to believe. It is extremely frustrating to play Z right now because you are always forced to play the game that the Terran or Protoss player wants you to play. Even if you play their game, and you play it better, you're still extremely liable to lose to one void ray, one dropship, or one Thor. Zerg needs options. I really hope they get them soon.
This is all true.
Mutabane or Mutaling seems to give Zerg some of that game-deciding power, but 2 (3) units is just not enough.
Also, I'm going to write your quote down.
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On September 26 2010 16:31 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Nothing that cool does matters unless he puts some major W's in his repitwa. Im talkin about wins people!
o.O I'd say beating ogs.TOP in a major tournament BO3 is something he can put in his trophy case...
EDIT: Nevermind if you're being sarcastic, ah teh internetz
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have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious
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On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious
MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.
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MuRdeR claims he beats everyone on his team whenever he picks Zerg. "So there's no imbalance, lol" basically. Didn't provide replays or anything to back it up though. This was prepatch btw.
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On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.
He said something along the line of " I can win any tournament with zerg". But after seeing him play and trashtalk yesterday i guess it was just another troll atempt.
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On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good.
...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching.
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On September 26 2010 19:06 blae000 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good. ...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching.
cool is not switching after patch and top16 gsl. he said that, he said that statement before the patch.
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Yeah, he realized that siege tanks now suck and banelings roll over a terran army, he said that somehwere, don't remember where i read it
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On September 26 2010 15:52 AJMcSpiffy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 13:51 Odds wrote:On September 26 2010 11:19 dbddbddb wrote:
it's hard to make changes to zerg when it really only affects the top 0.5% of players. Raw ignorance. If you think it is this bad for pro players right now, how awful do you think it is for Bronze, Silver, Gold players to play Zerg? They either don't know how or lack the ability to make the absolutely perfect moves required of them simply to stay in the game against an even lower skilled T or P, who can just build any number of any unit, attack move, and win. Take it from a Gold level Zerg, it's fucking awful trying to play. I'm determined to stick with it, but it is so frustrating that I can keep up a near constant harass, out expand a Terran 3 bases to 1, and his ball of stimmed marauders with 2 siege tanks can still just waltz in and destroy everything I have. Now obviously I still have a lot of learning to do and tons of room to improve, but the frustration and problems affect every level of play, not just these top level pros. I still refuse to switch races though, because wins as Zerg feel so much more satisfying.
Sorry but Zerg is not the reason you are in gold. Pretty much anyone who isn't diamond has serious macro, micro, decision-making etc issues.
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On September 26 2010 19:09 s1eger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 19:06 blae000 wrote:On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good. ...Hate that guy! To bad if cool is switching. cool is not switching after patch and top16 gsl. he said that, he said that statement before the patch.
If you click on the link to the korean page it says posted: 23.09.2010, but dunno
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If you want proof, tell me one new zerg pro player that wasn't knwoed in BW way before.
Almost all zerg pro are old players. 90% of new players on the pro scene are terran. :/
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im in diamond 1350 give take 50p, im a zerg, i still dont feel i have right to talk about imba. i think like z who have 1500-1600 have that right, so just normal diamond zergs pls stfu also terran and toss should admit that their race is better, though the game is not broken
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I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!
Zerg has always been, and will always be, the weakest race, yet difficult. They are, after all, the only race that uses a completely different method of producing. That's something that isn't very easy to balance.
In BW, if they didn't have the muta stacking and (hold)lurkers, they'd be the shittiest race ever. It took these little extras in order to balance them. You know much mutas suck when not micro'd?
Hell, just the style is enough to tell you Zerg is the weakest, when you need to always have more bases than T or P in order to be 'even'. This also applies to SC2 as well.
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On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious
The thing is all Terran matchups are interesting and fun to play, while ZvZ isn't just appealing at all. ZvP seems very bad and cheesy aswell.
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On September 26 2010 18:50 Punkstar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 18:07 berzerger wrote:On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious MorroW "suggested" to switch to zerg to prove that zerg is not UP. But no top terran officially talked about switching for good. He said something along the line of " I can win any tournament with zerg". But after seeing him play and trashtalk yesterday i guess it was just another troll atempt.
Like he'd ever do that.
The man won't keep his word because he knows that it would be the end of his career.
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On September 26 2010 20:29 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2010 17:45 Castles wrote:
have any big name terran players ever talked about swapping to zerg?
just curious The thing is all Terran matchups are interesting and fun to play, while ZvZ isn't just appealing at all. ZvP seems very bad and cheesy aswell.
Personally, I find ZvZ more fun than TvT. It's a much more mobile match-up.
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Is there some new information that should be added to the top-post? I really wonder, if he is just whining or if he really will change.
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
All Zerg needs, is a Scourge like unit for Air. This would help them defend vs multi drops from Terran... who have become just too mobile.
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On September 26 2010 16:31 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Nothing that cool does matters unless he puts some major W's in his repitwa. Im talkin about wins people!
Rofl he won the world cup for starters
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