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Lea
Sweden120 Posts
On September 24 2010 02:15 Endorsed wrote: Fuck if it's this bad, why do I keep losing to zergs  It seems to me a soon as zerg hits 3 bases it's so frking hard to win Yeah but they are pros playing against pros... Makes a huge difference | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
Thats it. Nothing more to discuss. | ||
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Neo.NEt
United States785 Posts
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
On September 26 2010 02:35 bokeevboke wrote: I think the thread went wrong direction. Cool QQed before patch and after patch he says its "playable". Thats it. Nothing more to discuss. Wrong. He def said its not balanced post patch either. I don't know where you have your infos from but the patch didn't address much anyways.. And thats what he said. | ||
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Easy772
374 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:30 TheDna wrote: Wrong. He def said its not balanced post patch either. I don't know where you have your infos from but the patch didn't address much anyways.. And thats what he said. GSL winners interview I heard him say he liked the patch also. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
No; they have specifically said that they don't balance based on tournament results Look, this is why blues never communicate anything meaningful, because apparently the masses don't understand anything that isn't a pundit. He didn't mean tournament results are irrelevant to blizzard balancing process. The blue mean that tournament results, alone, are anecdotes, and require analysis within the broad scheme of things. Of course, applied to this, Cool winning GSL would have little impact on how blizzard balances. | ||
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Chronocide
United States126 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:30 TheDna wrote: Wrong. He def said its not balanced post patch either. I don't know where you have your infos from but the patch didn't address much anyways.. And thats what he said. sure you're not thinkin of IdrA? He slammed the patch pretty hard. | ||
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Grond
599 Posts
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Easy772
374 Posts
On September 26 2010 05:49 Grond wrote: I'd be willing to bet some cash that Cool leaves Zerg within 3 months. When he sees how much money being Zerg is costing him he will jump ship. Blizzard shouldn't be bullied into making huge changes by Gamers threatening to switch races, no matter how good they are. If Cool switches i bet he regrets it when Zerg is the FOTM for most OP race in the future.. Which has been predicted by many pro gamers like Day[9] and Artosis.. | ||
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GIGAR
Denmark88 Posts
On September 26 2010 06:12 Easy772 wrote: Blizzard shouldn't be bullied into making huge changes by Gamers threatening to switch races, no matter how good they are. If Cool switches i bet he regrets it when Zerg is the FOTM for most OP race in the future.. Which has been predicted by many pro gamers like Day[9] and Artosis.. The balance changes required atm is more than just "give +2 dmg to Roaches" or some small details. I think it's fair to say that Zerg have to work more for their win - this isn't because of one specific aspect of Zerg, but more like the total design of Zerg, in union. Obviously, as time goes on it's possible that those skill differences can become a real problem at very, very high levels (since there's only so much a human can do, and if one race can better utilize their actions, then they 'will be better'/'able to do more' at the top) | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
how many good zerg are still out there ? i can count 3-4 like cool - check - dimaga and idra and all of them consider either change race or give up at some point . | ||
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EnderCN
United States499 Posts
The balance changes required atm is more than just "give +2 dmg to Roaches" or some small details That is an opinion and one I don't share. Fixes to roaches and hydralisk will resolve a large part of the issues. Small nerfs to some Terran units will resolve almost all of the rest. | ||
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Keula
Germany157 Posts
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Alexstrasas
302 Posts
On September 26 2010 07:04 st3roids wrote: Wait till nada , boxer and the others join the terran fotm and see if theres gonna be anything else than tvt in any tournament how many good zerg are still out there ? i can count 3-4 like cool - check - dimaga and idra and all of them consider either change race or give up at some point . still out there? how many were there to begin with? | ||
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Keula
Germany157 Posts
If someone else cries people agree... | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
On September 25 2010 21:54 kasuya wrote: tested, it doesn't work on a PDD anymore, says it can't target structures... gg blizzard What, seriously? I'm in disbelief with that stealth nerf. Marine/Raven/Banshee is the strongest TvP composition right now and they completely eliminate the one of two good units that don't get utterly raped by it. Why not just remove Zealots from the game, Blizzard. You know you want just TvT. Just quit beating around the bush and double Marauder dps too. | ||
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
On September 26 2010 07:04 st3roids wrote: Wait till nada , boxer and the others join the terran fotm and see if theres gonna be anything else than tvt in any tournament how many good zerg are still out there ? i can count 3-4 like cool - check - dimaga and idra and all of them consider either change race or give up at some point . because getting better is impossible | ||
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CagedMind
United States506 Posts
On September 26 2010 08:42 Keula wrote: Whats actually sad to see is that if Idra makes a thread like that it would take about 5 minutes until the usual shitstorm If someone else cries people agree... Cause it is idra. Another pro saying something carries a lot more weight. When idra whines it's expected and hard to take him serious. Lot to be said about how they phrase things and what exactly they calling imba. Idra just reminds you of the guy from http://www.pwned.nl/ | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On September 26 2010 08:24 Keula wrote: sad to lose to another good zerg A good reason why this thread should be closed. He already said that he decided to continue playing zerg | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On September 26 2010 09:31 CagedMind wrote: Cause it is idra. Another pro saying something carries a lot more weight. When idra whines it's expected and hard to take him serious. Lot to be said about how they phrase things and what exactly they calling imba. Idra just reminds you of the guy from http://www.pwned.nl/ wtf the are you talking about. Lets see what Idra has "said" in the past while terran is very strong it may be blown out of proportion by the fact that terran virtually always enters the mid game with a significant advantage. reaper and bunker rushes, zealot rushes as well, need to be significantly nerfed. i suspect roaches or neural parasite will still need to be buffed after that, but the early game changes should be made first and then evaluated." LOL SO COMPLETELY WRONG AND BIASED. Idra isn't the best mannered play, or the most proffesional, but hes very fair when it comes to analysis of the game after the fact and he isnt raging. In fact he supported a nerf to P back when he played P earlier in the beta. | ||
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