EPTOn December 20 2010 12:57 AndAgain wrote:
Are there any former WC3 players who play protoss?
Are there any former WC3 players who play protoss?
lol One commented on the same page of the same thread as you. Kiwikaki came from a Wc3 background.
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Cyanocyst
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lol One commented on the same page of the same thread as you. Kiwikaki came from a Wc3 background. | ||
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GrazerRinge
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 joke besides, i would like to see what is grubby capable of in sc2 sinec wc3 players have really good micro. I think if he can get used to many various tactics and the fundamental mechanic, he could be easily belongs to top 50 in EU!!! gogo Grubby!!! | ||
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k20
United States342 Posts
On December 20 2010 12:08 nihoh wrote: Orc is essentially a macro race with bm harassment while leveling tc and tech, will be interesting to see grbby play sc2 Harassing people with BM is one mechanic of the Orc race? Man Warcraft games are so weird. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 20 2010 13:07 k20 wrote: Harassing people with BM is one mechanic of the Orc race? Man Warcraft games are so weird. Lol he meant blademaster, not bad manners =p | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
I imagine Grubby will have fun doing hit and run base snipes with marauders like he did with raiders. ToD is protoss too yes? I saw him played DeMuslim the other day. 4K fighting!! | ||
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Rylik
Canada1 Post
On December 20 2010 13:12 dtz wrote: i am surprised. i really thought Moon will be Protoss and Grubby will be Terran I imagine Grubby will have fun doing hit and run base snipes with marauders like he did with raiders. ToD is protoss too yes? I saw him played DeMuslim the other day. 4K fighting!! pretty sure you mean reapers | ||
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aLt)nirvana
Singapore848 Posts
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Getz
United States559 Posts
On December 20 2010 13:09 skyR wrote: Lol he meant blademaster, not bad manners =p Bad Mannered Blade Master | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
well reapers works too but marauders are PRETTY GOOD (read in artosis voice) at sniping buildings as well. | ||
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hewtrain
Australia89 Posts
On December 20 2010 12:47 yejin wrote: Seriously, fuck you. I don't care if I get temp banned for this post but people like you ruined Warcraft 3. The Orc "QQ" really got to Blizzard and they patched according to the loudest community, the Orc players. Grubby was blogging that winning with Night Elf was easier than "shooting ducks in a barrel". Well, what is the situation in WC3 now ? The game is broken, there are 3 races playable, Undead didn't win any major tournament in more than 2 years. Only 1 UD player remains (Ted), all ther others have QUIT THE GAME (Happy, Fov, Lucifer, Sweet, Gostop, Susiria, Abver, Hasu, HLA, Elfi) Don't you think it weird that UD is the only race with 1 player left UD vs Orc is a 42% Win Ratio match-up in pro tournaments (Sk-Gaming esport index). 42% for UD, buddy. So dont whine with the Orc race, the only Orc with balls out there was Rotterdam (no blademaster) and Dayfly / Farseer oh you.. | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
Edit: According to the thread he'll be playing Terran but According to iNcontrol he's toss? Well I can't wait for a conformation. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On December 20 2010 12:47 yejin wrote: Seriously, fuck you. I don't care if I get temp banned for this post but people like you ruined Warcraft 3. The Orc "QQ" really got to Blizzard and they patched according to the loudest community, the Orc players. Grubby was blogging that winning with Night Elf was easier than "shooting ducks in a barrel". Well, what is the situation in WC3 now ? The game is broken, there are 3 races playable, Undead didn't win any major tournament in more than 2 years. Only 1 UD player remains (Ted), all ther others have QUIT THE GAME (Happy, Fov, Lucifer, Sweet, Gostop, Susiria, Abver, Hasu, HLA, Elfi) Don't you think it weird that UD is the only race with 1 player left UD vs Orc is a 42% Win Ratio match-up in pro tournaments (Sk-Gaming esport index). 42% for UD, buddy. So dont whine with the Orc race, the only Orc with balls out there was Rotterdam (no blademaster) and Dayfly / Farseer orc always did hardcounter UD blame blizzard for not bufifng undead, don't blame orc players for qqing since they were in a legit bad situation. unfortunately there never will be balance when there are 4 races. orc was always inferior to human and NE qq was justified kiwikaki also has a hell of a lot more experience and knows how to play wc3 better then you probably, he was an ex-pro after all. calm the fuck down as well jesus. | ||
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hewtrain
Australia89 Posts
On December 20 2010 14:19 shawster wrote: orc always did hardcounter UD blame blizzard for not bufifng undead, don't blame orc players for qqing since they were in a legit bad situation. unfortunately there never will be balance when there are 4 races. orc was always inferior to human and NE qq was justified kiwikaki also has a hell of a lot more experience and knows how to play wc3 better then you probably, he was an ex-pro after all. calm the fuck down as well jesus. i dont think either one of you have any idea what you're talking about.. | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
I'm looking at patch notes 1.23, 1.24, 1.22... none of them seem to be biased in favour of orc? I just see random little buffs to other races and orcs not being touched. Was there any defining recent patch change that make orc dramatically stronger? If so what was it? I'm genuinely curious. And yeh I remember when night elf was the thing, fuck archers and fuck demon hunters (the evasion was bullshit and I never liked the % based dodge chance). | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On December 20 2010 14:24 hewtrain wrote: i dont think either one of you have any idea what you're talking about.. I think the response before you is OK. Orc was in a terrible situation vs both Human and Night Elf in the time around the end of 2007 and the beginning of 2008, and it was all due to the meta-game. Mass DoTs were just then adapted as a main strategy and all nightelfs switched to that instead of going for bears, while still no Orc had a clue of how powerful the blademaster could be with proper item use. The shop was barely used for anything except healing scrolls or dust. Teleporting staff was more common for nightelf, since they all pushed with BM + DH + 1 archer when the orc reached T2, in order to destroy the bestiaries and the caster huts (don't remember the name). Winning vs nightelf seemed to be a matter of how well or bad your opponent used his DoT's whirlwind on your army. It was essentially out of the orcs hands, since nobody thought of abusing the BMs power with invincibility potions and items. Orcs were mostly crushed at that time by the Human delayed T2 push with quick towers and lots of workers. It was kinda like the SCV all-in vs Zerg thats around right now, except as Orc your entire army was slowed and the "terran" brought 3 simultaniously building bunkers with him, one which burned away your heros and units mana. Oh and yeah the "SCVs" were pretty damn powerful too So Orcs whined, and rightfully so. It all changed around the mid of 2008 though, when some player (don't remember if it was Grubby) came to the idea of buying the +2+2+2 circlet from the item shop right when the blademaster popped out. That basic idea seemed to change everything, since the BM was then starting to annihilate everything with it's highly item-focused play. I'm unsure of how the situation is today, since I've been completely inactive from the WC3 seen since sometime around the SC2 Beta. | ||
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
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hewtrain
Australia89 Posts
On December 20 2010 14:41 heishe wrote: I think the response before you is OK. Orc was in a terrible situation vs both Human and Night Elf in the time around the end of 2007 and the beginning of 2008, and it was all due to the meta-game. Mass DoTs were just then adapted as a main strategy and all nightelfs switched to that instead of going for bears, while still no Orc had a clue of how powerful the blademaster could be with proper item use. The shop was barely used for anything except healing scrolls or dust. Teleporting staff was more common for nightelf, since they all pushed with BM + DH + 1 archer when the orc reached T2, in order to destroy the bestiaries and the caster huts (don't remember the name). Winning vs nightelf seemed to be a matter of how well or bad your opponent used his DoT's whirlwind on your army. It was essentially out of the orcs hands, since nobody thought of abusing the BMs power with invincibility potions and items. Orcs were mostly crushed at that time by the Human delayed T2 push with quick towers and lots of workers. It was kinda like the SCV all-in vs Zerg thats around right now, except as Orc your entire army was slowed and the "terran" brought 3 simultaniously building bunkers with him, one which burned away your heros and units mana. Oh and yeah the "SCVs" were pretty damn powerful too So Orcs whined, and rightfully so. It all changed around the mid of 2008 though, when some player (don't remember if it was Grubby) came to the idea of buying the +2+2+2 circlet from the item shop right when the blademaster popped out. That basic idea seemed to change everything, since the BM was then starting to annihilate everything with it's highly item-focused play. I'm unsure of how the situation is today, since I've been completely inactive from the WC3 seen since sometime around the SC2 Beta. bolded the only part of your post that i have a problem with.. how can you say the whining was called for, and then go on to say orcs came up with a counter, without any balance changes impacting them..? to me that clearly says the whining was NOT called for.. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
It is quite apparent that a lot of people in here have no clue about wc3. Grubby was always known for his long games. The longer a game went on, the more likely it was that he would win. His game sense, decision making, and macro was superb. Good luck to grubby^^. I had a feeling that he would go protoss. It seems to be the race that translates best for an orc player. Expensive units with lots of HP, etc. Grubby and Lyn were always my favorite players in wc3. Now that Grubby is switching fully, I can only hope that Lyn drops WC3 and goes with SC2 full time. (Damn you CEPL!) P.S. + Show Spoiler + Nominated for eSports Player of the Year 2004 (eSports-Awards) Nominated for Best Warcraft 3 Player of the Year 2004 (eSports-Awards) Nominated for eSports Player of the Year 2005 (eSports-Awards) Voted Best Warcraft 3 Player of the Year 2005 (eSports-Awards) Voted Best eSports Team of the Year 2005 as part of 4Kings.wc3 (eSports-Awards) Voted Best Warcraft 3 Player of the Year 2006 (eSports-Awards) Voted eSports Player of the Year 2006 (eSports-Awards) Nominated for eSports Player of the year 2008 (eSports-Awards) Voted Gosu Gamer of the Year 2006 (GosuGamers.net) Voted Gosu Gamer of the Year 2008 (GosuGamers.net) ESL WC3L Season 5 Most Valuable Player ESL WC3L Season 7 Most Valuable Player ESL WC3L Season 8 Most Valuable Player ESL WC3L Season 9 Most Valuable Player ESL WC3L Season 10 Most Valuable Player Talk about credentials xD | ||
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