EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 696
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DBrave
Serbia379 Posts
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DGenerate
Canada140 Posts
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fush
Canada563 Posts
and to the poster above, what "deeper" discussion can there be? i don't understand. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On April 06 2011 22:32 Brad wrote: The Kas vs. NaDa section was even funnier because just before that portion of the show; the guys were saying how bad the lag is for the Koreans, and the fact that's really hard for them to win on the US server. Then JP said that Kas beating NaDa would be the biggest upset of TSL. ??? Unless I missed something, IdrA was the only person who said that the lag was a huge factor. Day did his "oh here we go" face and Tyler just stared off into space/watched a replay. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:03 DGenerate wrote: While I wish all the best for MLG and the future of e-sport in the west, I felt the viewers opinion wasn't represented in this last SOTG. It's alright like that since that's not the point of the show, but I think we're all missing djWheat's shows to express our opinions. Not that we should destroy MLG for what happened but I think Wheat would have been the best to direct an educated discussion on the topic. People have the forums to discuss this, but given the place SOTG has in the weekly news coverage, I was looking forward for a deeper discussion about the viewer's situation. Come back Wheat! What are you talking about? None of them were viewers and I'm not sure why you think the viewers opinion needs to be represented on SotG. I think they talked about what they should have- what it was like for a pro at the event. I just wish iNcontroL was there to add more life to that discussion. | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:09 fush wrote: i don't get what people want from them exactly? what is there to discuss about MLG that hasn't already been addressed by the MLG brass? i don't see how any good can come from these guys shitting on MLG even more than what's already been said on these forums and on MLG forums. they gave exactly what was appropriate, which was their personal views and experiences over the event, what else can they say? and to the poster above, what "deeper" discussion can there be? i don't understand. Maybe we're just confused because this show is usually not shy about shitting on something. Otherwise a good show even though 2/4 didn't seem all that interested in doing it this week  | ||
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DGenerate
Canada140 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:11 Jibba wrote: What are you talking about? None of them were viewers and I'm not sure why you think the viewers opinion needs to be represented on SotG. I think they talked about what they should have- what it was like for a pro at the event. I just wish iNcontroL was there to add more life to that discussion. I said I know it's not the point of the show to have the viewer's opinion. But SOTG is huge and people were expecting them to talk about it more than they did, or differently imo. Now that they don't have Wheat's shows/phone calls portion to express themselves, they're still looking for personalities to talk in depth about it. As a viewer, I want to hear more about for sure and I think Wheat has the experience to direct such a discussion with viewers. | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
If they can do it in Sweden(dreamhack), its wierd that MLG doesnt try to fix it. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Of course, I'm not saying Tyler doesn't know what he is talking about as he usually does; I'm merely insinuating that he is just as biased as Idra is. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:20 syllogism wrote: It shouldn't come as a surprise as Tyler plays protoss and mostly watches games involving protoss, but I'm struggling to see this "level of refinement ane execution" protosses have. Protoss players aren't exactly utilizing all their units either and aren't all over the map with pylons and DTs, warp prisms. there was a time terrans were marked as the easy race...things changed and now terrans complain about protoss... | ||
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:03 DGenerate wrote: While I wish all the best for MLG and the future of e-sport in the west, I felt the viewers opinion wasn't represented in this last SOTG. It's alright like that since that's not the point of the show, but I think we're all missing djWheat's shows to express our opinions. Not that we should destroy MLG for what happened but I think Wheat would have been the best to direct an educated discussion on the topic. People have the forums to discuss this, but given the place SOTG has in the weekly news coverage, I was looking forward for a deeper discussion about the viewer's situation. Come back Wheat! I don't really understand what more could have been discussed. It was a crappy situation. Everyone knows it was crappy. All of them said it was crappy. MLG knows it was crappy and feels terribly embarassed about it. Having 12 people call in and say the same thing about how crappy it was would not have been a productive use of time. | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On April 06 2011 20:15 Cuddle wrote: Just wonderful to have IdrA on. I love it and support the addition of the IdrA-Pillar. I love that he aint afraid to discuss balance. Others doesnt even wanna tuch the subject and the show is called "STATE OF THE GAME". Everything now is down to promoting tournaments and talking about players, and theres allmost no talk about strategies and balance. Show has become SC center v2. I love the show, but please dont be so afraid to talk about it. Maby its because they all play protoss and doesnt have anything to complain about atm, but dont just lol at idra when he wants to utter his opinion. | ||
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johnkub
74 Posts
it was obvious they were all biting their lips as to what they really felt like saying that it was a massive failure from pretty much all fronts (except the 2nd half of sunday), and thats fine, but just leave it at that, theres no need to say that it was out of their hands when it clearly wasnt 2.) an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure | ||
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Juffalo
United States155 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:28 Pekkz wrote: I love that he aint afraid to discuss balance. Others doesnt even wanna tuch the subject and the show is called "STATE OF THE GAME". Everything now is down to promoting tournaments and talking about players, and theres allmost no talk about strategies and balance. Show has become SC center v2. I love the show, but please dont be so afraid to talk about it. Maby its because they all play protoss and doesnt have anything to complain about atm, but dont just lol at idra when he wants to utter his opinion. I think it's a little hasty to say this. Last week's episode was incredibly in depth with balance and strategy discussion. One episode not entirely focused on strategy discussion doesn't mean they are going to abandon it forever. | ||
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dbosworld
United States317 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
What are you talking about? None of them were viewers and I'm not sure why you think the viewers opinion needs to be represented on SotG. I think they talked about what they should have- what it was like for a pro at the event. I just wish iNcontroL was there to add more life to that discussion. I think what he is trying to say is that it would have been nice to have one person on the show who wasn't at the event live and went through the streaming experience (maybe one of the people in korea atm for korea vs world assuming they watched what there was of the stream). Most of the SotG viewers were not at MLG so our experience was different than the ones of those on the show, both sides need to really understand that. Why do you think they take viewer questions on SotG? To help strengthen a connection between the audience and the cast and make the show more interactive. | ||
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Coolwhip
927 Posts
'Protoss doesn't need to attack' 'Nothing I could do' During the beta he whined about Terran being op. I didn't follow sc1 but I'm sure he whined about Zerg there too at some point. Suck it up and FITE! | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On April 06 2011 23:11 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I didn't hint at anything. I meant simply what I said. I honestly wouldn't worry about people only watching the NASL. While the NASL offers a crap ton of content, it's not fair to compare it with the content GSL and MLG offers. I'm not familiar with all the details, but I'm guessing most of the NASL games will be played online as opposed to on location like MLG and GSL. This offers a completely different spectator experience(crowd and player emotion for example), and together with the casters and production, makes the content very different. NASL offers more games, while GSL+MLG offers a more immersive viewer experience. I think the NASL at its early stages will take on the "filler" role while on location tournaments like the GSL, MLG, and Dreamhack will be take on the "main event" role. | ||
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JuuMeijin
Sweden164 Posts
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