Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 657

On March 31 2011 04:40 karpo wrote:
Just something i need to point out about Tylers speech about latency. I have about two years of college course experience within network engineering, so i have at least the basic knowledge about routing/latency.

Yes you can still play well with constant mid/high latency. The problem is that IP routing between continents have many router hops and different ISP's peer with different other providers. Two koreans living a block away from eachother using different ISP's might have totally different gaming experiences.

I've said this before but here's my real life example:

I had low stable ping from sweden to a WoW server in france (i think i was) for more than a year. Either my route to the server was changed or a router in the path started malfunctioning. The effect was stable, low ping coupled with 500+ ping and disconnects. A friend of mine living less than a mile away from me had <50 ping and no problems at all. And sweden->france is still just a stone throw away compared to cross continent.

The koreans really should have practiced on the US server to see if their latency was stable or not beforehand. Seems like some experienced problems while others did not, something that hopefully will be fixed automatically when koreans learn what providers are best for cross continent stability/latency.

On March 31 2011 17:03 Skrelt wrote:

Well no offence to you but the hop count between continents is often much less than every1 thinks. to go from here (the netherlands) to the USA only takes 5/6 hops. It really is not a big deal. Problem is stupid corporations claiming bandwidth and stuff.

Difference with korea is that the internet is kinda out of IP numbers (IPv4), so alot of IPoveload happens in Korea. Meaining alot of trafic goes to 1 point, 1ip address. witch result in a Good connection within Korea, Getting a litlebit (our ALOT!) wors when you go cross Server/Continent. Ofc Not only this factor but also what company's Pay for extra bandwidth and stuff plays appart in it all.

(tried to explain it as simple as posible, few technical terms)

On March 31 2011 15:37 Jacuzzi wrote:
I must have missed it, what time did they talk about special tactics?

On March 31 2011 18:21 karpo wrote:


First of all, i get at least 10 hops to the US.

You're saying that korea uses private adresses nationally and NAT translations for cross continent? Sounds weird. If a korean connects directly to his ISP he should get a public IP adress just like everyone else.

On April 01 2011 05:22 DurandaL917 wrote:
I found SoTG last year on iTunes and have been a huge fan ever since. I am always psyched when I have an episode to listen to on my commutes. Great fun and it makes the time fly.

keep up the fabulouss work and thank you


One question though. At the end of last the podcast you mention something about screddit and then play a clue which is immediately drowned out by some ungodly squeaking /creaking noise (was that really day[9]'s chair?). You even replay it only to have day[9] speak over it. Was it all a prank ... is there really a clue under all that noise?

On March 31 2011 08:03 iNcontroL wrote:
oh no Someone thinks I am worse than PainUser, Slush and TLO... what ever shall I do.

On March 31 2011 18:21 karpo wrote:


First of all, i get at least 10 hops to the US.

You're saying that korea uses private adresses nationally and NAT translations for cross continent? Sounds weird. If a korean connects directly to his ISP he should get a public IP adress just like everyone else.

On March 31 2011 08:13 Mailing wrote:


Units warping in are not killed, they are canceled. Protoss get the money back.

This basically means there is no risk in warping in, ever, when a pylon is being attacked. (obviously unless there are too many units to beat if your units finish, making them a waste) Units don't even take extra damage while warping in like people though for a long time.

On April 01 2011 22:51 Velr wrote:
Yes, it was the best show this year.

All this show needs would be a Zerg and/or a Terran...

The one thing that i thought was a little strange:
Mondragon gets praise like mad (i think justified) but there was basically no mention of Zeerax or the actual 2 games at all, except for Mondragon being cool as a cucumbre .