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On August 15 2010 07:04 Empyrean wrote:
Why not just end with gg re? when you leave? It's easy to chat your opponent after the game.
Seems pretty useless.
Because I am a semi-casual player and have absolutely zero reason to play someone that isnt contributing to my ladder ranking.
This idea is awesome and I have been pushing it for a while.
To keep it from being abused just only allow 1 rematch, and only after randomly encountering the player in ladder.
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There is absolutely zero chance this will ever be added to the ladder system in such a way that it would give you points during the rematch. Blizzard would not add an ugly mechanic like this that would take away from their matchmaking system.
Only possibility would be for them to add a grudge match option that put you in a non-ladder rematch.
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i'd be ok with a "grudge match" option.... but make it for points... and only allow 1 grudge match per player.
i guess maybe what i'm looking for is more of a practice league... no points... but you can pick which race you want to be matched up against.. so you can work on a particular matchup that you're having trouble with or whatever... also in the practice league a re-match option would be awesome so that if you find someone who is close to your skill lvl you can keep playing each other and helping each other make progress... would also help make the game more social.
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I think it's quite good like it is.
If someone owned me with cheese and he agrees to a rematch, I don't need points, I just want to show him that I'm better than that normally.
Ranked rematches are not needed I think, and if they do implement it, they should have 1 rematch only, with the only possibility of getting back the points you had, so you would be at +/- 0 in the end.
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Yeah it definitely seems like something that wasn't initially implemented due to the possibility of it being exploited. I could see it being added eventually though.
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A rematch option would be very nice indeed, and doesn't seem too hard to add. You can ask for a rematch after the game ends in the bnet interface, and the other play can chose if to accept or not.
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If there were points involved it would be exploited. You say "who would do that", but there are always people that exploit these things. There were always problems with win trading in WoW, and selling arena points, they made some changes to prevent selling arena points I think.
Too bad cause it is a cool concept though. It'd be okay if there weren't points involved, but then if both people want a rematch for practice it seems like it might be just as easy to play a custom game anyway.
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i dont know if they would make the rematch a ladder game do to possible abuse of the stystem, but i think it would be a great feature, i allways wanted to kick some ones ass after i got proxied.
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On August 15 2010 17:46 Nexic wrote:
If there were points involved it would be exploited. You say "who would do that", but there are always people that exploit these things. There were always problems with win trading in WoW, and selling arena points, they made some changes to prevent selling arena points I think.
Too bad cause it is a cool concept though. It'd be okay if there weren't points involved, but then if both people want a rematch for practice it seems like it might be just as easy to play a custom game anyway.
You can't exploit it because the only way to play someone in the ladder is with the AMM, and there are literally milions of players around. It's a rematch option only, not an option for a ladder game against someone of your choice.
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You can explot it. I live in a house of 4 nerds, who all the play starcraft. We have gotten eachother on MULTIPLE occasions Ganondorf. This would lead to exploit.
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On August 15 2010 18:05 Phayze wrote:
You can explot it. I live in a house of 4 nerds, who all the play starcraft. We have gotten eachother on MULTIPLE occasions Ganondorf. This would lead to exploit.
I am sure there are some sort of systems/rules that could defend against this as iccup has. Even still, one player would have to sacrifice a poor record to make you look good. And you cant have multiple accts like iccup has. I would say max of 2 rematches, so a bo3.
Wouldn't mind seeing it.
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I think this is a good idea. I would love to have rematches be as easy as a click of a button and wait for the opponent to accept.
Obviously you have the match trade issue, but if you limit the number of rematches to 3 or 5, I think that will at least somewhat alleviate that issue. 5 it would still be potentially dangerous but I think 3 doesnt seem that dangerous.
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Why not just chat them after the game? there's no need for a rematch function
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On August 15 2010 18:01 Ganondorf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 17:46 Nexic wrote:
If there were points involved it would be exploited. You say "who would do that", but there are always people that exploit these things. There were always problems with win trading in WoW, and selling arena points, they made some changes to prevent selling arena points I think.
Too bad cause it is a cool concept though. It'd be okay if there weren't points involved, but then if both people want a rematch for practice it seems like it might be just as easy to play a custom game anyway. You can't exploit it because the only way to play someone in the ladder is with the AMM, and there are literally milions of players around. It's a rematch option only, not an option for a ladder game against someone of your choice. If you are closely rated to someone and you queue up at the exact same time as them, it's much more likely than you think that you'll be matched up. Obviously it'd be even more effective at high ratings where there are less people, and those people have more motivation to exploit points. I've heard of/seen people do this on streams before to get matched up against the streamer.
That's how people trade wins in WoW as well, and it was AMM. It was pretty reliable to, like you could get matched up all 5 times in a row or whatever.
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yes, so when I beat raging noobs I can have the press a button to spam me for rematches.
Not a fan
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Why do you care about a random cheeser's or thrash talker's opinion about you?
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They should have something like a "bo3" or "bo5" ladder, where you have to play bo3 or bo5 against your opponent but when it's finished it gives 3 or 5 times the points you receive or lose normaly.
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This was proposed in WC3 by someone, there's no way Blizzard would do this. If you are angry enough that you want to rematch someone, just talk to them and set up a custom game. Points don't matter, at most you lose like 14-20 points and gain only around 10 points so I don't see why the rematch would have to be on ladder.
Also I think it would be exploitable. Let's say you get matched up against a friend and he lets you win and then he sends a rematch request, so you two play again and he lets you win again. How many times can these two do that? Would they be able to do it again tomorrow? How about a week from now? What if he has multiple friends or "followers" who are willing to give him free wins so he can climb the ladder?
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An implantation of this without making it exploitable would require multiple extra rules / constricting factors which makes it an unnecessary hassle for something rather pointless anyways.
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It's a bad idea because it could and would be abused. Like just trading wins. I win, you win the next one, etc.
Easy way to milk your bonus points.
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