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Why is there no rematch function in SC2? It seems like a pretty basic function to have in an online RTS game released in 2010? I feel like Starcraft is such an anonymous game right now and there is never time for any dynamic between players.
If I lose to some random ridiculous cheese I want to be able to at least have the chance for a rematch, same thing goes if I'm playing a trash talker. Sure you could arrange your own rematches but it's too complicated and requires too much complex interaction so you end up just clicking that find game button and face yet another random anonymous guy.
I feel like this in addition to chat channels and other changes people have suggested could help make the game more social, less anonymous and provide more dynamic interaction between players.
What do you think about my idea, does anyone disagree? Sorry if this has already been suggested and sorry about my English.
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i've often wished for the same thing... seems like a really simple option to implement and would help a ton to make the game more social... also would make it easier to practice against a single race.
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Why not just end with gg re? when you leave? It's easy to chat your opponent after the game.
Seems pretty useless.
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It's probably a lot harder to implement than it would seem but it really should be in place for a high profile game like Starcraft 2. To put thing into perspective Starcraft 1 was one of the first games to popularize actually having different races with different units and mechanics before that different races in games were pretty much the same but with different graphics and names on the units.
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Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points.
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On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points.
How so?
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On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so?
If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns.
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... Talk to the guy... You got a nice chat button right after the game... or before the game end you say "Rm ?"
Thats it
Im against
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Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder.
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On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder.
Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done.
On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns.
What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game?
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I really don't think arranging a rematch is that hard. That being said, if you do set one up via custom games it isn't ranked, so maybe a request ranked rematch button or something is necessary after all.
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Better yet, perhaps the ladder could be upgraded so that users can have an option do Bo3/Bo5 with the next user they face on the ladder instead of only one game.
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On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game?
Doesn't even have to be a friend, you could just talk to the person in game and agree to it.
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On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game?
Still against, arranged matchup would always rise. I mean, if I beat a guy and he want to rematch and it count in ladder... why not... if I beat him like ownage... I would never say no... and I would be abusing the system
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On August 15 2010 07:18 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game? Doesn't even have to be a friend, you could just talk to the person in game and agree to it.
Lol who would just start randomly throwing games to a stranger? Also as your ranking diverges the points gained would diminish and utlimately be 0 I suppose.
On August 15 2010 07:22 Yokoblue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game? Still against, arranged matchup would always rise. I mean, if I beat a guy and he want to rematch and it count in ladder... why not... if I beat him like ownage... I would never say no... and I would be abusing the system
1. See above about diverging rankings
2. Why would some1 keep playing against some they lose to many times?
Also the whole point of the ranking system is to put people with at similiar skill levels together with each other. Don't see how winning vs a worse player who's got the same ranking as you is abuse, it would be working as intended.
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On August 15 2010 07:04 Empyrean wrote:
Why not just end with gg re? when you leave? It's easy to chat your opponent after the game.
Seems pretty useless.
It won't count for points?
On iCCup you re to and both players get the chance to win and get points again; if you ask for a custom game against a guy who's laddering, chances are he won't accept (even if he knows he can beat you).
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On August 15 2010 07:24 kalleralle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:18 Empyrean wrote:On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game? Doesn't even have to be a friend, you could just talk to the person in game and agree to it. I think his point was that if one player completely dominated the other, but the other player wants a rematch, the winning player would never decline the rematch because it'd be an easier source of points than someone random on the ladder. Lol who would just start randomly throwing games to a stranger? Also as your ranking grows the points gained would diminish and utlimately be 0 I suppose Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:22 Yokoblue wrote:On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game? Still against, arranged matchup would always rise. I mean, if I beat a guy and he want to rematch and it count in ladder... why not... if I beat him like ownage... I would never say no... and I would be abusing the system 1. See above about diverging rankings 2. Why would some1 keep playing against some they lose to many times? 3. You're beating some1 close to ur own ranking so I don't see the problem? The point of the ranking system is to put people with similiar skill levels together, you're supposed to win against worse player. You're argument is not valid at all.
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On August 15 2010 07:13 kalleralle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:09 FabledIntegral wrote:
Just ask for a re? If you want to prove yourself it doesn't have to be via ladder. Right, but I want the match to actually mean something besides just pride. If I lose to a guy and the challenge him to a rematch via custom gameI he'd still have my points which kinda sucks. Also, I feel like there would be more rematches happening if there as just a simple dialog box after the game is done. Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 07:08 R0YAL wrote:On August 15 2010 07:07 kalleralle wrote:On August 15 2010 07:06 R0YAL wrote:
Dont think this will be implemented b/c it could get exploited for points. How so? If you get a buddy then they could throw the match and then agree for rematch over and over, and they could take turns. What are the odds of you meeting a buddy smurf account in a ladder game?
taking it too serious
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Just integrade rematch function and put a cap of like five or ten games on tit, no big deal.
The problem with custom rematches is oftentimes that if someone won he would just decline and keep laddering because he takes points way more seriously than oneself.
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On August 15 2010 07:29 Empyrean wrote:
I think his point was that if one player completely dominated the other, but the other player wants a rematch, the winning player would never decline the rematch because it'd be an easier source of points than someone random on the ladder.
Lol who would just start randomly throwing games to a stranger? Also as your ranking grows the points gained would diminish and utlimately be 0 I suppose
And I'm saying that argument uses faulty logic and is invalid in a formal sense. Also, cap amount of rematches to like 3-4-5.
I'm off to bed now but keep discussing.
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