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On August 11 2010 05:59 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:52 zatic wrote:
Nexus = Latin
Colossus = Greek
Nexus is conforming to u -declination in Latin so "Nexus" with a longer "u" sound would be the correct plural. In English Nexuses is correct too as far as I know. Nexi is just wrong.
Colossus is Greek so Colossi would be correct there. No no no. Nexus originates from Latin, and Colossus originates from Greek, but as long as they are added to the English dictionary, they follow English grammar rules (from an English perspective). Therefore, the plural of nexus may be spelled and pronounced differently in a different language (like Latin), or it may be the same, but it doesn't affect how it is spelled/pronounced in English. Since nexus is a real English word, the dictionary clearly shows that the plural should be nexus or nexuses, and not nexi or nexii or noxen (wtf?).
Nexus is a "real English word" because it was taken from Latin, like the majority of the English language. The reason why nexus is a correct plural version is because of the plural form of nexus in Latin. Nexi is never correct, at least not when you're using nexus as a noun.
Colossus is taken Latin which they took from Greek. That's why the plural is colossi
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On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct. Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.
It doesn't matter where it came from, once it becomes English, it follows English rules. That said, the English rule for this case may be: keeping it as it was in Latin.
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Take the Day9 approach. When in doubt, make up a word.
Nexullun.
Easy as that.
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On August 11 2010 05:59 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:52 zatic wrote:
Nexus = Latin
Colossus = Greek
Nexus is conforming to u -declination in Latin so "Nexus" with a longer "u" sound would be the correct plural. In English Nexuses is correct too as far as I know. Nexi is just wrong.
Colossus is Greek so Colossi would be correct there. No no no. Nexus originates from Latin, and Colossus originates from Greek, but as long as they are added to the English dictionary, they follow English grammar rules (from an English perspective). Therefore, the plural of nexus may be spelled and pronounced differently in a different language (like Latin), or it may be the same, but it doesn't affect how it is spelled/pronounced in English. Since nexus is a real English word, the dictionary clearly shows that the plural should be nexus or nexuses, and not nexi or nexii or noxen (wtf?)
Sooo.. exactly what I said then?
Why am I even arguing this actually I am German and never had Latin nor Greek in school ....
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"We perched atop our Colossu[s,si] and threw Tomato[s,es] at No[ny,ony]'s neighbors' Nex[us,i]."
"We perched atop our Colossus and threw Tomatoes at Noony's neighbors' Nexus."
As long as we don't forget to call Tyler Noony, the piddling matter of Nexus vs Nexi seems small by comparison.
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On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with... hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!
It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.
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On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with... hahaha it's not Latin. It's English! It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.
Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.
Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.
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iirc I think collosuses and collosi are acceptable according to the dictionary.
This is why I dont like to stress over english, outside of essays and formal writing scenarios: 1) too many exceptions 2) Incorrect use often becomes accepted over time anyway(even "officially"/in formal writing).
Personally, I advocate using what sounds best. Shakespeare made up words and phrases all the time and he got branded a genius haha. That said, it has to come from creativity/aesthetics, not because you have weak English.
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On August 11 2010 06:09 lololol wrote:
It's Hexen.
with a name like yours, i dont trust you! 
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On August 11 2010 06:20 apm66 wrote:with a name like yours, i dont trust you!
I half expected to look up and see his name be "Hexen."
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On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct. Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.
Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.
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On August 11 2010 06:09 Gedrah wrote:
"We perched atop our Colossu[s,si] and threw Tomato[s,es] at No[ny,ony]'s neighbors' Nex[us,i]."
Lol the Nony was unexpected and great hahaha
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Nexuseses for sure
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On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct. Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong. Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.
No, only second declension Latin plurals end in -i, and only in the nominative or vocative cases.
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On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct. Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong. Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.
No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in either language.
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Other questions:
Templar / Templars?
Scourge / Scourges?
I use the former in both cases.
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They both are acceptable. While the word originates from latin, nexus is a word in the english language. Since we are discussing what the plural is in english, we apply english rules and not latin.
Anyway, I'm going to have to go with Nexen.
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On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct. Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong. Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin. No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in any language.
Exactly. In Latin, nexus would be fourth declension, and the correct pluralizations would be as follows:
nominative/nex-ūs
genitive/nex-uum
dative/nex-ibus
accusative/nex-ūs
ablative/nex-ibus
vocative/nex-ūs
locative/nex-ibus
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