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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
August 10 2010 21:28 GMT
#61
On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct.

Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.

Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.

No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in either language.

This website has a chart. I see -i in that chart. I don't understand the chart, but I will infer from it that I could be right. I will also infer that all of the following words are acceptable:
Nexae, Nexi, Nexri, Nexa Nexes, Nexus. Nexua. Nexas, Nexos, Nexros, Nexarum, Nexorum, Nexum, Nexium, Nexuum, Nexerum, Nexis, Nexris, Nexibus, Nexebus.

I think Nexibus is the coolest.
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 10 2010 21:28 GMT
#62
People we are talking about English here T_T. The game is in English, we are typing in English. Forget about the other grammar rules!

It doesn't matter if "nexus" has the same meaning in Latin. We are concerned with the English word "nexus," not the Latin "nexus." That said, they might both have the same grammar rules, but that would only be because the English language decided to copy the Latin grammar for this word, and not because, "this word is Latin, so it MUST follow Latin rules."

The confusion comes from the fact that nexus = nexus. I mean take Bok Choy for example. Is that English? Yes it is. It might have originated from Chinese (Cantonese), 白菜 (pronounced baakchoi), but t is most definitely English now. Ok, perhaps this isn't the best example to show plural use, but the point is, you wouldn't think about Chinese grammar when trying to "conjugate" bok choy would you?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:30:43
August 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#63
On August 11 2010 06:28 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct.

Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.

Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.

No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in either language.

This website has a chart. I see -i in that chart. I don't understand the chart, but I will infer from it that I could be right. I will also infer that all of the following words are acceptable:
Nexae, Nexi, Nexri, Nexa Nexes, Nexus. Nexua. Nexas, Nexos, Nexros, Nexarum, Nexorum, Nexum, Nexium, Nexuum, Nexerum, Nexis, Nexris, Nexibus, Nexebus.

I think Nexibus is the coolest.


Nexus would be fourth declension. NOT SECOND DECLENSION.
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
August 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#64
On August 11 2010 05:51 JamJoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 05:43 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:37 apm66 wrote:
Octopus = Octopedes. uh oh!


This is only British English.

Octopuses and octopi, are both correct, but octopuses being more so.


That's Greek actually. Octopi is never correct unless you have no understanding of Latin. In which case you probably think the Latin on the back of the 1 dollar bill means New Secular Order as well. It's unfortunate that it is accepted in modern society as correct. I would just stick with octopuses since pretty much no one will know what octopodes means.

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SnakeChomp
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
August 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#65
It's a bona fide gaggle of nexuses!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:30:12
August 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#66
On August 11 2010 06:29 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:28 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct.

Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.

Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.

No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in either language.

This website has a chart. I see -i in that chart. I don't understand the chart, but I will infer from it that I could be right. I will also infer that all of the following words are acceptable:
Nexae, Nexi, Nexri, Nexa Nexes, Nexus. Nexua. Nexas, Nexos, Nexros, Nexarum, Nexorum, Nexum, Nexium, Nexuum, Nexerum, Nexis, Nexris, Nexibus, Nexebus.

I think Nexibus is the coolest.


Nexus would be fourth declension. NOT SECOND DECLENSION.

I'm joking calm down mad. I don't even know what declension means lol.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 10 2010 21:31 GMT
#67
It's a first declension noun, so -us --> -i, -a --> -ae, um --> (i forget my Latin)...

Of course for fourth declension nouns, -us --> -u, right?
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 10 2010 21:31 GMT
#68
On August 11 2010 06:29 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:29 Empyrean wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:28 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct.

Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.

Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.

No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in either language.

This website has a chart. I see -i in that chart. I don't understand the chart, but I will infer from it that I could be right. I will also infer that all of the following words are acceptable:
Nexae, Nexi, Nexri, Nexa Nexes, Nexus. Nexua. Nexas, Nexos, Nexros, Nexarum, Nexorum, Nexum, Nexium, Nexuum, Nexerum, Nexis, Nexris, Nexibus, Nexebus.

I think Nexibus is the coolest.


Nexus would be fourth declension. NOT SECOND DECLENSION.

I'm joking calm down mad. I don't even know what declension means lol.


I just realized your avatar/symbol thingy isn't Osama Bin Laden O_O.
JamJoy
Profile Joined July 2010
22 Posts
August 10 2010 21:32 GMT
#69
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15357 Posts
August 10 2010 21:32 GMT
#70
On August 11 2010 06:24 Chill wrote:
Templar / Templars?

http://www.tot-gaming.com

Checkmate!
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15357 Posts
August 10 2010 21:34 GMT
#71
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 10 2010 21:36 GMT
#72
On August 11 2010 06:00 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
The Collossi are attacking the Nexi, raping their ani !

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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
August 10 2010 21:36 GMT
#73
On August 11 2010 06:34 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!

Wait, isn't Nexuses correct English?
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 10 2010 21:36 GMT
#74
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.


Mmm the Los Angeles example wasn't the best I guess, look at my bok choy one above.

That said, "quid pro quo" IS Latin in English. Nexus, on the other hand, is not Latin in English. It is, well, English in English, and therefore it doesn't have to (not saying it doesn't) follow Latin grammar rules. It follows English grammar rules, which we all know have a lot of inconsistencies.

Nexus might be a Latin word, but it is ALSO an English word originating from Latin, whereas "quid pro quo" will always be a Latin phrase used in English.
JamJoy
Profile Joined July 2010
22 Posts
August 10 2010 21:36 GMT
#75
On August 11 2010 06:34 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!


I would say that it is considered correct English because it is correct Latin.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 10 2010 21:39 GMT
#76
On August 11 2010 06:36 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:34 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!

Wait, isn't Nexuses correct English?


According to the dictionary, nexus and nexuses are both correct ENGLISH. The person you quoted is also correct, it doesn't matter if it's correct Latin, what matters is the correct English.

Now for a non-English question and rather a Blizzard question, is nexus capitalized?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15357 Posts
August 10 2010 21:40 GMT
#77
On August 11 2010 06:36 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:34 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!

Wait, isn't Nexuses correct English?

I don't actually know. I learned 90% of my English watching 24.

I just thought it was funny that Karliath guy insisted that it's not Latin but English without actually disagreeing on the correct plural.
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imbecile
Profile Joined October 2009
563 Posts
August 10 2010 21:40 GMT
#78
Next.

User was temp banned for this post.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
August 10 2010 21:41 GMT
#79
On August 11 2010 06:39 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:36 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:34 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:32 JamJoy wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:14 Karliath wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:10 ELA wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:46 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:42 TzTz wrote:
Well nexus is latin. I don't know whether it's -u declination or not. Depending on that the plural would be nexi or nexus. In the latter case the "u" would be pronounced longer than in the singular. But Maybe Protoss call it completely differently and Nexus is just the Terran term for it and thus free for us to mess around with...

hahaha it's not Latin. It's English!


It's actually a latin word that means connection or point of gathering.


Not anymore it's not. It's an English word because we are speaking English. That's the point I'm trying to get across. Sure, there is a word called "nexus" in the Latin language, with the same meaning and pronunciation, but the word we are using now is English, regardless of what language it originated from.

Edit: For example, "Los Angeles" is now an English proper noun, representing the city. It's origin might be Spanish, meaning "the angels," but it simply doesn't mean that anymore.


Los Angeles still means "the angels" and the fact that we use it to represent a city doesn't change that. Just because we use a word in English does not mean that its connection to its' root language no longer applies. That's like saying because we use "quid pro quo" in English that it's no longer Latin.

I think in this discussion it's very important that we realize "Nexus" is correct because it's correct English, not because it's correct Latin!

Wait, isn't Nexuses correct English?


According to the dictionary, nexus and nexuses are both correct ENGLISH. The person you quoted is also correct, it doesn't matter if it's correct Latin, what matters is the correct English.

Now for a non-English question and rather a Blizzard question, is nexus capitalized?

Wait, but who is more correct? This is very important.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 21:41 GMT
#80
On August 11 2010 06:26 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:24 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:21 Chill wrote:
On August 11 2010 06:03 zatic wrote:
On August 11 2010 05:53 Chill wrote:
I'm at work right now so I can't link you. But if you go to Youtube and search for "webster editor octopus" you should see a relevant video. It implies both Nexuses and Nexi would be correct.

Octopus is Greek. What could it imply about the plural of the Latin word Nexus. Nexi is just wrong wrong wrong.

Latin plurals are -i. Nexuses and Nexi are fine, depending on if you consider the word English or Latin.

No they are not. Even I who knows jack shit Latin can tell you that. The Latin plural of Nexus is Nexus. There is no Nexi in any language.


Exactly. In Latin, nexus would be fourth declension, and the correct pluralizations would be as follows:

nominative/nex-ūs
genitive/nex-uum
dative/nex-ibus
accusative/nex-ūs
ablative/nex-ibus
vocative/nex-ūs
locative/nex-ibus


I would say that because I didn't understand 95% of what Empyrean said here, he must be correct.
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