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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2010 04:03 GMT
#121
On August 06 2010 13:01 Grimjim wrote:
Damn, the Terran players really come out of the wet-work to defend themselves quite vigorously.

If everything is so balanced and honky-dory, why are you all so keen on trying to prove that? If it's balanced, Blizzard won't do anything.

Half the people in this thread are insisting that it's not imbalanced. The other half are saying that you can fix the imbalance issue in a way that doesn't dilute Terran's racial identity.
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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
August 06 2010 04:06 GMT
#122
On August 06 2010 13:01 Grimjim wrote:
Damn, the Terran players really come out of the wet-work to defend themselves quite vigorously.

If everything is so balanced and honky-dory, why are you all so keen on trying to prove that? If it's balanced, Blizzard won't do anything.


Because bad zergs like you make endless threads about pointless things that show you have no real understanding of the game at all.

Even IF ZvT is imbalanced, it's nowhere near as bad as all the bad zergs are making it out to be. Not even close.

It's also worth mentioning that TvP is imbalanced... but you don't see hordes of terran players making endless threads about it. (Why? Because no 'pro' player has complained like Idra/Artosis have. Ever think that they are incredibly biased AND whiney players?

Anyway. Hopefully Bliz will release race matchup data so that people can STFU about it. It's not going to be even close to the '90%' win rate that bad zergs are claiming.
Grimjim
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
August 06 2010 04:10 GMT
#123
On August 06 2010 13:06 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 13:01 Grimjim wrote:
Damn, the Terran players really come out of the wet-work to defend themselves quite vigorously.

If everything is so balanced and honky-dory, why are you all so keen on trying to prove that? If it's balanced, Blizzard won't do anything.


Because bad zergs like you make endless threads about pointless things that show you have no real understanding of the game at all.

Even IF ZvT is imbalanced, it's nowhere near as bad as all the bad zergs are making it out to be. Not even close.

It's also worth mentioning that TvP is imbalanced... but you don't see hordes of terran players making endless threads about it. (Why? Because no 'pro' player has complained like Idra/Artosis have. Ever think that they are incredibly biased AND whiney players?

Anyway. Hopefully Bliz will release race matchup data so that people can STFU about it. It's not going to be even close to the '90%' win rate that bad zergs are claiming.


My point is proven.

Find a way to balance it without getting rid of the diversity. Nowhere in the original post do I claim "Zerg is weak because it NEEDS more bonus damage units". I simply stated the facts, maybe asked if that was the reason the matchup leans how it does, and asked for other people's thoughts.

Oh, and mindlessly calling another player bad.

Let me ask you, are you a Zerg player?
I am serious. And my name is Shirley.
purerythem
Profile Joined June 2009
United States245 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 04:13:15
August 06 2010 04:12 GMT
#124
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141732


*edit* i play zerg
Grimjim
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
August 06 2010 04:18 GMT
#125
On August 06 2010 13:12 purerythem wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141732


*edit* i play zerg


*yawn* Expected. Terran won't like their nerf, so they are preparing for it early.
I am serious. And my name is Shirley.
bulge
Profile Joined July 2010
161 Posts
August 06 2010 04:46 GMT
#126
you missed archon, bonus to bio
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
August 06 2010 10:33 GMT
#127
You could whine that terran is overpowered (I play terran and kinda agree) but not that Zerg is underpowered. That's just a no
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wbz0rn
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 13:46:14
August 06 2010 13:44 GMT
#128
On August 06 2010 13:06 oxxo wrote:
...but you don't see hordes of terran players making endless threads about it. (Why? Because no 'pro' player has complained like Idra/Artosis have.)


wow. that was, omg.. by far... the most retarded thing i read today. thank u for making everyone who reads it dumber.
Spawn more Overlords... spawn more overlords... argh.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 21:40:01
August 06 2010 21:34 GMT
#129
On August 05 2010 03:54 AyJay wrote:
Pretty sure lack of bonus damage has nothing to do with balance of the game


I disagree, in fact think it may be the biggest issue right now, but looking at it from a simple yes or no perspective is misleading. Yes an Immortal has a huge bonus damage but its regular damage is barely equal to a stimmed Marine. Stalker bonus damage is trivial. Marauder bonus damage is huge, with Stim they are doing approximately 250% the damage of a Stalker for half the gas. Hellion bonus damage is really high with the upgrade, factor in the splash damage and you have an extremely dangerous and very fast unit that requires no gas. Viking bonus damage while not huge is high enough to be a problem when coupled with their cheap cost, long range and ease to mass produce, not to mention the bonus applies to almost every unit they face. Reaper bonus damage is also really high but at least they are hard to mass in the portion of the game where they are hard to deal with.
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