EPTI don't have yet my SC2 copy so didn't experienced random players , but I think when I'll finally start to play I'm going to also play random ( at least at the beginning) to learn all 3 races first.
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nanokwark
Poland51 Posts
I don't have yet my SC2 copy so didn't experienced random players , but I think when I'll finally start to play I'm going to also play random ( at least at the beginning) to learn all 3 races first. | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
And it's not an 'insane advantage'. Just scout earlier since it seems like there are quite a few random players that only do proxies/all-ins. | ||
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Whiplash
United States2929 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On August 04 2010 04:42 Billyten wrote: Hum...hum...hum... Facebook identity problem for pros... No chat room... No LAN... Ya, your right.... chat room were silly... just get rid of them.... that was a problem... What about LAN????? We are lucky that blizzard thought this was a problem too!!!!!!! should of been fixed even in broodwar right??????????? Well tought namnam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and all of these will certainly be added sooner or later and i don't think blizzard saw them as problems...... IT's NOT because the option to see your opponent race while loading is not in the game than it shouldn't be in the game!!! Just thinkin....... Wow, I'm amazed what you managed to read into a single sentence. I'm very well aware that Blizzard isn't perfect but they justifiably don't see this as a problem. But keep making you points in such a well spoken manner and maybe you'll manage to convince a 5 year old that you are correct. | ||
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Apocalyptic
United States131 Posts
It is not "rude" to be random, if it provided any real sustainable advantage all the pros would do it. Most people agree it is a disadvantage to the random player themselves. | ||
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
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Aqueous
United States13 Posts
I play random because it allows for MORE creativity, not less. Being creative and thinking up your own strats/build orders is my favorite part of the game, so I love being able to play all 9 possible match-ups. I also play, as others have said, to be less biased. Maybe some of the people crying OP over certain units or specific races would understand that its not as unbalanced as they think if they played those races and tried to use those units. To be honest, a lot of what playing starcraft is about is being unpredictable. If you play predictably then you'll get easily countered. I like playing unpredictable strategies, and playing random only makes them more unpredictable. | ||
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Toast.yum
51 Posts
I play random on a diamond level. I never cheese, never announce my race (unless they politely ask), and have no problem playing against other random players. My win percentage is just over 50 and I don't do dumb all-in builds all the time. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I seriously doubt it. Most of the cheese I see is from people who actually pick a race. The only disadvantage you have is that you're forced to go for your standard build up until about 13 or 14 supply, which is early enough to respond to a cheese. A six-pool on steppes can be stopped if you scout around 10 or so. | ||
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churn
28 Posts
At first I was going to play Protoss, but TLO inspired me to play random; it was pretty awesome for him to prove that he could play ANY race at the highest level (even though he can't really play toss as well  ).It is certainly much more challenging. OP mentioned he has 4 openings? I have to have 9 openings. There are 9 matchups to master while a traditional one race player only experiences 3. Does a zerg player even know anything TvP? Also, I've come to believe that I'm getting the whole game experience. I think it's more fun because I'm playing all the races where as most people will only ever play 1/3 of the full game. | ||
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vOddy
Sweden402 Posts
If they announce their race though, it's fine  | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
If you say you haven't ever lost to a random yet you just havent played a good one yet. | ||
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
There are some players who go random just to have 3 cheese options. But these players will eventually be weeded out. They may dominate the lower leagues, but once they hit higher leagues where people scout better/can defend against cheese, they will learn that it takes more than gimmicks to become a good player. (Please note that I don't consider cheese or gimmicks to be bm or a sign of a bad player. I mean that a player who does nothing but early cheese every game with no mid or late game strategy is a bad player.) I don't play random for the advantage it gives me against the other player. I do it to better learn all 3 races. If I start to focus on just one race, I'm worried I wouldn't be able to get into the other races once I got my main race to diamond level. Playing random forces me to practice all 3 races, and all 9 matchups. | ||
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Vessel
United States214 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
so just let random players be random. I dont think i can name anybody who was really good random rts player except testie. As Times go on it will just get harder though | ||
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Kantom
United Kingdom27 Posts
I'm an average diamond random player* and considering the game is only a week old it is a lot harder to work out what I'd like to do in every match up. I'd say that I'm currently only happy with 5 or 6 match ups, since I simply haven't had the time to test different things for all of them. Obviously this will be of a lesser extent once more time has passed but I think for now it is a relevant point to consider. * I wouldn't mention my league at all but the OP seemed to think that only people in diamond have valid opinions. | ||
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Aqueous
United States13 Posts
On August 04 2010 06:21 Kantom wrote: * I wouldn't mention my league at all but the OP seemed to think that only people in diamond have valid opinions. I wish more people were of this opinion. I really hate that now with the SC2 ladder division system, you have to state your credentials in order to be taken seriously. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 04 2010 07:11 Aqueous wrote: I wish more people were of this opinion. I really hate that now with the SC2 ladder division system, you have to state your credentials in order to be taken seriously. So what? Befor this ladder system you had to tell your iccup rank, with link to your profile, in order to be taken seriously | ||
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Psykhe
39 Posts
On August 04 2010 05:52 Apocalyptic wrote:It is not "rude" to be random, if it provided any real sustainable advantage all the pros would do it. That. The whole "random is an insane advantage" pseudo argument is utterly contradicted by reality. In the top 100 2% of the people are random. In the top 1000 6%. In the top 5000 8%. ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140559 ) | ||
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Noelani
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