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On July 14 2010 10:53 Chriamon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 10:49 DCV_Whiplash wrote:On July 14 2010 10:43 Chriamon wrote:On July 14 2010 10:36 IdrA wrote:
lolol
they finally make a patch that makes zerg early game safer while making their mid/late game weaker in an intelligent way. then they totally revert all the stuff that was good for zerg and actually make it even worse than it was before.
awesome um, what? They only reverted terran and toss things, any zerg changes stayed. Unless what you were talking about was the terran and toss nerfs. The only zerg change reverted was something with banelings (they has made cancelling them return something other than 75% I assume). by nerfing zealots, racks and reapers zerg early game was surely safer now that was reverted, but creep tumor remained 30 seconds.. Oh right, I cant believe I completely forgot that >.> Nevermind that then, although I didn't really play too much of the previous change, so I don't really know exactly how much safer it was, I'll just have to agree with Idra. Also, unrelated issue, I am not getting bonus pool points for winning, Is anyone else having this issue?
Zealot nerf in 19.0 was really huge in PvZ, it basically made 2 gate pressure useless vs zerg.. Now that is back to normal, so 2 gate is viable, and zerg needs to stay on their toes again earlygame. Thats a good change.
But I have no idea about this bunker and barracks change.. Specifically the barracks.. The only building terran really needs, not to mention how the 3rax pressure builds have been dominating lately in everything (as shown by Morrow vs Socke) and it gets a buff? Bunkers being 10 seconds faster is also huge for any bunker-rush tactics.. why not do only 5 seconds faster?
I dont understand blizzard.
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On July 14 2010 14:12 Skyze wrote:
But I have no idea about this bunker and barracks change.. Specifically the barracks.. The only building terran really needs, not to mention how the 3rax pressure builds have been dominating lately in everything (as shown by Morrow vs Socke) and it gets a buff? Bunkers being 10 seconds faster is also huge for any bunker-rush tactics.. why not do only 5 seconds faster?
I dont understand blizzard.
I think blizzard's just trolling everyone that wants a balanced game lol. They are trying to make it as unbalanced as possible. Don't worry though I'm sure if it keeps up it competitive sc2 will just all be TvTs. And blizzard doesnt have their damn excuse that terran is the lowest winrate or whatever, because theres no way in hell Terran has the lowest winrate in any of the regions.
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do you guys can download the patch?! (EU server) i dont seem to have any downloads starting...
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On July 14 2010 14:17 Disastorm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 14:12 Skyze wrote:
But I have no idea about this bunker and barracks change.. Specifically the barracks.. The only building terran really needs, not to mention how the 3rax pressure builds have been dominating lately in everything (as shown by Morrow vs Socke) and it gets a buff? Bunkers being 10 seconds faster is also huge for any bunker-rush tactics.. why not do only 5 seconds faster?
I dont understand blizzard. I think blizzard's just trolling everyone that wants a balanced game lol. They are trying to make it as unbalanced as possible. Don't worry though I'm sure if it keeps up it competitive sc2 will just all be TvTs. And blizzard doesnt have their damn excuse that terran is the lowest winrate or whatever, because theres no way in hell Terran has the lowest winrate in any of the regions.
its looking like that.
Im gonna go practice my TvT.. maybe I can "learn" to love it eventually if I force myself to it..
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On July 14 2010 14:21 FromGorkyWithLove wrote:
do you guys can download the patch?! (EU server) i dont seem to have any downloads starting...
Not working for me at least, no auto-patcher loading and manual patching didn't work either, and here I was thinking I could crunch in a couple of matches of sc2 before work today :o
EDIT: Okay, scratch that, patcher working fine now 
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On July 14 2010 07:15 ShaSKiRa wrote:
After install, its let me play without patching anything. I try to use Blizzard Update. Its said "There is no patch file to apply"
ANyone got any ideas? please help !
help please 
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terran is so full of shit.
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The problem with nuking the mac people, and the issue with people saying "oh problems will exist!" is that the bugs we are finding are easy to find if you have a competent QA department.
I mean, "all Mac people are fucked" is not a bug you should see after a patch release. And yes, I am a SW Engineer. That is terrible.
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On July 14 2010 14:48 peep wrote:
The problem with nuking the mac people, and the issue with people saying "oh problems will exist!" is that the bugs we are finding are easy to find if you have a competent QA department.
I mean, "all Mac people are fucked" is not a bug you should see after a patch release. And yes, I am a SW Engineer. That is terrible.
I'm not that upset cause it's beta.
I doubt the patch would go live with these problems post-release. If this happens then i will be furious however.
Edit: Though i'm sure everyone has seen it, Mac won't be fixed until early morning. =(.
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On July 14 2010 14:12 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 10:53 Chriamon wrote:On July 14 2010 10:49 DCV_Whiplash wrote:On July 14 2010 10:43 Chriamon wrote:On July 14 2010 10:36 IdrA wrote:
lolol
they finally make a patch that makes zerg early game safer while making their mid/late game weaker in an intelligent way. then they totally revert all the stuff that was good for zerg and actually make it even worse than it was before.
awesome um, what? They only reverted terran and toss things, any zerg changes stayed. Unless what you were talking about was the terran and toss nerfs. The only zerg change reverted was something with banelings (they has made cancelling them return something other than 75% I assume). by nerfing zealots, racks and reapers zerg early game was surely safer now that was reverted, but creep tumor remained 30 seconds.. Oh right, I cant believe I completely forgot that >.> Nevermind that then, although I didn't really play too much of the previous change, so I don't really know exactly how much safer it was, I'll just have to agree with Idra. Also, unrelated issue, I am not getting bonus pool points for winning, Is anyone else having this issue? Zealot nerf in 19.0 was really huge in PvZ, it basically made 2 gate pressure useless vs zerg.. Now that is back to normal, so 2 gate is viable, and zerg needs to stay on their toes again earlygame. Thats a good change. But I have no idea about this bunker and barracks change.. Specifically the barracks.. The only building terran really needs, not to mention how the 3rax pressure builds have been dominating lately in everything (as shown by Morrow vs Socke) and it gets a buff? Bunkers being 10 seconds faster is also huge for any bunker-rush tactics.. why not do only 5 seconds faster? I dont understand blizzard.
What I don't get is saying how it's a buff. If something was never supposed to go live in the first place, and was merely reverted back, how is it a buff? Nothing changed.
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Update by blue on the bnet forum about the Mac problem :
Quick update: We know what the issue is (more of a battle.net issue versus the code in the game) and will be making the appropriate changes server-side sometime in the wee hours of the morning. I apologize for keeping you guys in the dark. Thanks for your understanding. Unless you stay up really late, I'd recommend just trying back in the morning.
So we'll try back in the morning
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Of course it's a battle.net problem. The issue is where is the QA? That could have been identified and fixed so easily by only having one mac client in the testing set.
It's just more ammo for people who think the battle.net developers should be wiped and replaced with actually competent people.
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What does building time on zealots, reapers etc have to do with bug fixing? I havnt followed the development regarding these bugs so someone who is informed please explain.
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On July 14 2010 15:03 peep wrote:
Of course it's a battle.net problem. The issue is where is the QA? That could have been identified and fixed so easily by only having one mac client in the testing set.
It's just more ammo for people who think the battle.net developers should be wiped and replaced with actually competent people.
well it is a beta...
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I'm not that upset either.
I'm disappointed because this is a silly bug that any competent QA department would have found.
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Any word on why EU is down?
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On July 14 2010 15:07 TenSafeFrogs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 15:03 peep wrote:
Of course it's a battle.net problem. The issue is where is the QA? That could have been identified and fixed so easily by only having one mac client in the testing set.
It's just more ammo for people who think the battle.net developers should be wiped and replaced with actually competent people. well it is a beta...
It is a beta but this kind of error is lame. When I was a SW engineer our QA people would test basic things. In this case; no.
I have no confidence in the battle.net programmers or QA people.
And I think there is no question as to why.
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Reaper build time decreased from 45 to 40 seconds.
Barracks build time decreased from 65 to 60 seconds.
Bunker build time decreased from 40 to 30 seconds.
.........why
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I seriously think terran is the most hated race in this game.
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starting seriously to get furious about those steadily small terran buffs / tweaks EVERYWHERE.
this race absolutely doesn't need it at all.
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