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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
July 14 2010 07:15 GMT
#281
On July 14 2010 16:09 SandTSquared wrote:
Reaper build time decreased from 45 to 40 seconds.
Barracks build time decreased from 65 to 60 seconds.
Bunker build time decreased from 40 to 30 seconds.

.........why


Because it was always like that, it changed unofficially with the last patch (if you read the OP, it states that Blizz wanted slower rax / reaper / zealot for internal testing only, but it made it into the public patch somehow).

That's why. Srsly, so many whiners here.
Complete the cycle!
cubert
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation94 Posts
July 14 2010 07:16 GMT
#282
This patch kills 2x2.
peep
Profile Joined July 2010
7 Posts
July 14 2010 07:20 GMT
#283
You guys can say what you want. I'm in silver. Would be higher but I can't play. Else let me tell you Blizzard has shit for QA because the errors are obvious and not subtle.
intergalactic
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada428 Posts
July 14 2010 07:30 GMT
#284
I'm so sick of people whining about Terran being imbalanced. It litterally makes me rage nowadays. You whiners should take a lesson from Day[9]'s book about imbalance and overpoweredness. I'm a random player, btw, so don't think I'm biased because of my icon.
If you value your soul, do not look into the eye of an horse
benemann
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany33 Posts
July 14 2010 07:43 GMT
#285
Apparently there are plenty of new portraits and some graphical updates for the lava and other things in this patch.

And oh my god zealot build time back to 33
DeckTech
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands26 Posts
July 14 2010 08:50 GMT
#286
Yesterday I trained for three hours to get a nice build, with a 65 second racks. Gues I have to go to the old play again...
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
July 14 2010 08:58 GMT
#287
Apparently there are plenty of new portraits and some graphical updates for the lava and other things in this patch.

And oh my god zealot build time back to 33


Those portraits better include one for Zerg structures... getting pretty pissed about that >.<
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
peep
Profile Joined July 2010
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 09:12:16
July 14 2010 09:07 GMT
#288
Yeah, you guys can think what you want but I've been an SW ENG and creating a patch that has ladder games broken = WRONG and then mac client borked = NO,when each would take minimal testing = fail & fired. Not sure what lame crap you guys come from; where is come from, you get fired for sucking. Bnet2 sucks. Every update proves they suck. End Of Discussion.
lew
Profile Joined April 2009
Belgium205 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 09:23:45
July 14 2010 09:20 GMT
#289
Why are people acting like blizzard is making terran OP? Blizzard is known for making their games balanced so why would they make terran imbalanced? If something is OP then they will nerf it.

Blizzard nerfed mech immediately when it became popular (thor, helion and tanks got a nerf). They made the marauder shells an upgrade when the marauder became too strong. Do you really think that they will not do something about terran when they are OP?

kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
July 14 2010 09:40 GMT
#290
It's not that Terran are OP with any one unit. Problem is they have so many damn units that work with each other it's very hard to counter them.

It is kinda to be expected, this is the 'terran' game wings of liberty. When heart of the swarm comes I would wager Zerg will become pretty mean.
lew
Profile Joined April 2009
Belgium205 Posts
July 14 2010 09:42 GMT
#291
On July 14 2010 18:40 kar1181 wrote:


It is kinda to be expected, this is the 'terran' game wings of liberty. When heart of the swarm comes I would wager Zerg will become pretty mean.


I seriously hope you are kidding...
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 14 2010 09:50 GMT
#292
On July 14 2010 18:42 lew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 18:40 kar1181 wrote:


It is kinda to be expected, this is the 'terran' game wings of liberty. When heart of the swarm comes I would wager Zerg will become pretty mean.


I seriously hope you are kidding...


It's actually kind of true . The most thoughts have been put in to terran while developing wings of liberty and the less in to zerg , protoss is kind of balanced between the two . Thats why terran has a big arsenal of strategies and has the biggest diversity of units and the exact opposite is the zerg which has low unit diversity and strategies .
In Heart of the swarm zerg will have the most updates while protoss and terran will also have something new , but not to the comparison of zerg .
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
July 14 2010 09:51 GMT
#293
I'm not really. Terran is by far the most cohesive race in the game, and I half wonder if it's down to the fact the designers and game developers set out to design a terran game. It makes sense most of the thought went into that and that flowed into the multiplayer.

In the next release most of the creative thinking will be going into zerg and I don't doubt that some of that thinking will effect the multiplayer options Zerg end up with.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
July 14 2010 09:54 GMT
#294
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peep
Profile Joined July 2010
7 Posts
July 14 2010 10:09 GMT
#295
Of course it's not going to be perfect with respect to balance. But your ladder games? 3 2 2 0 -1 -2? bad. Needless to say, the people working on battlenet are incompetent. Let alone breaking mac play.
EximoSua2
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States216 Posts
July 14 2010 10:14 GMT
#296
On July 14 2010 16:43 benemann wrote:
Apparently there are plenty of new portraits and some graphical updates for the lava and other things in this patch.

And oh my god zealot build time back to 33


I got excited and went and checked...I did not see any new portraits.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
July 14 2010 10:57 GMT
#297
On July 14 2010 06:15 Forsti.henning wrote:
login works. please do screenshots and send them via pm to me, so i can link trusted evidence.


can you remove it from OP? It's REALLY tilting.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
July 14 2010 10:58 GMT
#298
On July 14 2010 18:20 lew wrote:
Why are people acting like blizzard is making terran OP? Blizzard is known for making their games balanced so why would they make terran imbalanced? If something is OP then they will nerf it.

Easy answer: Marketing

Terrans are featured in the campaign, so the Average Joe is way more familiar with Terrans than the other two races. Making it easier to play compared to the other two races makes sense if you want to keep the casuals interested in the game.

Remember how "balanced" Death Knights at the start of Wrath of the Lich King were while Blizzard advertised WotLK with the DK? Casuals loved how DKs ripped everything apart.

And I wouldn't be suprised if the Lurker returned in Heart of the Swarm "by popular request".
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
roemy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany432 Posts
July 14 2010 11:01 GMT
#299
somebody check on ultralisks plz
i don't see the bonus damage in the MPQ anymore - nor any upgrades to bonus damage.
rock is fine.. paper could need a buff, but scissors have to be nerfed
Icks
Profile Joined July 2009
France186 Posts
July 14 2010 11:01 GMT
#300
On July 14 2010 19:58 Barook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 18:20 lew wrote:
Why are people acting like blizzard is making terran OP? Blizzard is known for making their games balanced so why would they make terran imbalanced? If something is OP then they will nerf it.

Easy answer: Marketing

Terrans are featured in the campaign, so the Average Joe is way more familiar with Terrans than the other two races. Making it easier to play compared to the other two races makes sense if you want to keep the casuals interested in the game.

Remember how "balanced" Death Knights at the start of Wrath of the Lich King were while Blizzard advertised WotLK with the DK? Casuals loved how DKs ripped everything apart.

And I wouldn't be suprised if the Lurker returned in Heart of the Swarm "by popular request".

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