• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:04
CET 03:04
KST 11:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival7TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest0Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1426 users

UPDATE: Still Unlisted Patch Balance Changes - Page 40

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 Next All
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
July 13 2010 14:09 GMT
#781
On July 13 2010 22:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Q: Did the bunker buildtime change? It feels slower - currently listed as 40 but I don't remember what the old one was.

It was 30 seconds at the end of Beta phase 1.
That boys a monster
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
July 13 2010 14:22 GMT
#782
On July 13 2010 23:09 Cade)Flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 22:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Q: Did the bunker buildtime change? It feels slower - currently listed as 40 but I don't remember what the old one was.

It was 30 seconds at the end of Beta phase 1.

10 seconds?
i didnt feel a difference :S

i guess 1 month really kills ur sense of timing huh
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 13 2010 14:34 GMT
#783
Both the bunker and barracks build time changes were in place at one point, changed and then now reverted back.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
nuclear_nub
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 13 2010 14:54 GMT
#784
On July 13 2010 22:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Q: Did the bunker buildtime change? It feels slower - currently listed as 40 but I don't remember what the old one was.


It's just you. I mean that literally - Blizz finally nerfed Jinro.
DeckTech
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands26 Posts
July 13 2010 15:01 GMT
#785
If I am correct a change with the tank is: that at first you could move a tank and then shift siege it. when the tank arrives it automatically goes into siege mode. Now, when I move my tank and press SHIFT siege it sieges immediately, instead of first going to the proper place.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 13 2010 15:08 GMT
#786
On July 14 2010 00:01 DeckTech wrote:
If I am correct a change with the tank is: that at first you could move a tank and then shift siege it. when the tank arrives it automatically goes into siege mode. Now, when I move my tank and press SHIFT siege it sieges immediately, instead of first going to the proper place.


It seemed to be working for me yesterday, I will have to test is again tonight and see if I was wrong
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 15:31:09
July 13 2010 15:30 GMT
#787
Wow the new "bugs" with the burrow cast infestor are quite amazing. Also looks like smart cast doesn't work and each spell can only be cast one at a time. If blizzard keeps it in the game, this will be HUUGGGEE, since it actually makes not using smart cast and microing more effective than using smart cast.
hohoho
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
July 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#788
i think they should purposely allow infestors to cast their spells while burrowed.
Kill the Deathball
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
July 13 2010 16:30 GMT
#789
cybernetics core always had a research animation in SC2 !!!!
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
Lucius2
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany548 Posts
July 13 2010 16:39 GMT
#790
nope
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
July 13 2010 16:43 GMT
#791
On July 14 2010 00:08 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 00:01 DeckTech wrote:
If I am correct a change with the tank is: that at first you could move a tank and then shift siege it. when the tank arrives it automatically goes into siege mode. Now, when I move my tank and press SHIFT siege it sieges immediately, instead of first going to the proper place.


It seemed to be working for me yesterday, I will have to test is again tonight and see if I was wrong

Same here, this was for sure working yesterday.

Also I don't understand the issue with smart cast listed above... it is only supposed to cast 1 at a time... that's what smart cast is...
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
July 13 2010 16:52 GMT
#792
With so many bugs/unlisted changes, has anyone else been holding off for Patch 17 and/or an announcement from Blizzard before playing again?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
July 13 2010 16:52 GMT
#793
On July 13 2010 23:03 Knutzi wrote:
Did they nerf feedback range? i swear they refuse too feedback those ghosts before they get emped/sniped

It was 9 before, and if they nerf it, that's the biggest deal yet.
hypp0crit
Profile Joined April 2010
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 17:02:12
July 13 2010 17:00 GMT
#794
Another change that was unlisted:

In a team game, if one of your teammates leaves the game or is disconnected, the resources mined from that player that left are now split between the remaining teammates. In phase 1, it used to be that the player that left still had their own pool of money that could be used to build stuff by using their buildings, but now that money essentially becomes everyone's money.

This can be exploited in 2v2 maybe (ie. have one player leave the game immediately after starting, which essentially lets you share money at the zero minute mark. Macro up a bunch of drones very quickly and win?)

Oh and also baneling art has changed... it is a lot easier to see what color the baneling is (what player that baneling belongs to).
Hello
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
July 13 2010 17:05 GMT
#795
^ this has already been mentioned, but i don't blame you for not reading through 40 pages of changes.
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
July 13 2010 17:10 GMT
#796
On July 13 2010 23:34 rastaban wrote:
Both the bunker and barracks build time changes were in place at one point, changed and then now reverted back.


This explains why I can't bunker rush a zerg FE anymore.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
July 13 2010 18:11 GMT
#797
Why would they even change the bunker build time? It hardly makes sense, bunker rushes for one weren't even that powerful against any player who wasn't AFK when the game started and they were incredibly rare in the first place.

With this change and the zealot change it appears like Blizzard is trying to get rid of all forms early pressure - perhaps we should all 6cc/6hatch/6nexus from now on
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 14 2010 01:54 GMT
#798
I have greatly updated the OP, post patch 17, after testing the changes out myself.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 14 2010 02:28 GMT
#799
this is just going to fall away without anyone reading it unless I bump. my last bump was before it got renamed, so nobody paid attention
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 14 2010 02:42 GMT
#800
On July 14 2010 11:28 Zelniq wrote:
this is just going to fall away without anyone reading it unless I bump. my last bump was before it got renamed, so nobody paid attention

Bump.... Bump it up!
But for real, the whole infestor "bug" does not seem like that Huge of a deal. I think the infestor should be able to do all of its spells while burrowed, just limit the range when it is burrowed. That way you can do it from farther if it is vulnerable but to get close is dangerous if the opponent has detection!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft377
SpeCial 145
RuFF_SC2 122
Nathanias 86
Dota 2
monkeys_forever261
capcasts172
NeuroSwarm77
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor157
Other Games
summit1g13482
JimRising 558
Skadoodle339
Mew2King31
WinterStarcraft31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick902
BasetradeTV156
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 51
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH120
• Hupsaiya 61
• davetesta31
• Freeedom6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21563
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
5h 56m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 56m
WardiTV Invitational
9h 56m
CrankTV Team League
10h 56m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
12h 56m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
14h 56m
Wardi Open
1d 9h
CrankTV Team League
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.