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araged
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic189 Posts
May 21 2010 17:44 GMT
#1061
I'm puzzled about that slight infantry buff, I do welcome it, but terran timing push can be very effective now, that's stimpack of course. Rine shields aren't that big of a deal early on.
heh?
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
May 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#1062
If anything the Void Ray range nerf is a good one.
SnakeChomp
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
May 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#1063
On May 22 2010 02:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
A full tech switch would be required to build up enough armor pen to take down a full ultra, and the new frenzy spell lets ultras get in past marauder fire.


I am amazed at how many people consistently make this mistake. Marauders cannot slow Ultralisks because Concussive shells cannot affect massive units. Frenzy changes nothing in ZvT; the Ultra will still die immediately when attempting to attack mass marauder and it is therefore still a worthless unit.
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#1064
Patch incoming? "System shutdown in 5 minutes"
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 21 2010 17:45 GMT
#1065
On May 22 2010 02:25 Shizuru~ wrote:
have u all forgotten how Blizz does their balancing?






the only thing that boggles me the most in this patch is the terran bio upgrade buffs...


holy shit that was amazing, wish that was my job :D
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
May 21 2010 17:46 GMT
#1066
SYSTEM SHUTTING DOWN WOOT GOGO PUBLISHED MAPS FOR *&#$*&^ SAKES!!!!!
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
May 21 2010 17:46 GMT
#1067
On May 22 2010 02:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ultras will be better than before simply because the 2 food roach means less roaches and more hydras, which means an enemy unit composition with less marauders and immortals. A full tech switch would be required to build up enough armor pen to take down a full ultra, and the new frenzy spell lets ultras get in past marauder fire.

Stop saying they wont work just by looking at the ultra itself. Starcraft is not a 1v1 game, it is based on interactions between units the whole way through.


No. The marauders are indeed designed to counter roaches, but without any roaches, they are still freaking good against everything from zerg, and also they are the only unit beside hellion that can stop banelings and zerglings. I don't make any roaches in zvt since they are nerfed, and all my opponents (all 2000+ plat terran) are still going mass marauders against me.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
May 21 2010 17:47 GMT
#1068
On May 22 2010 02:46 wishbones wrote:
SYSTEM SHUTTING DOWN WOOT GOGO PUBLISHED MAPS FOR *&#$*&^ SAKES!!!!!
In how long?
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
keNn)
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Philippines297 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 17:47:47
May 21 2010 17:47 GMT
#1069
omg just got in platinum. will there be a reset?

shutting down in 3min
^_^
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 17:47:58
May 21 2010 17:47 GMT
#1070
I hope the frenzy is restricted to biological. At 25 energy a pop, you could frenzy an entire army of collosus or void rays. And I hope they put some effort into the effect rather than some red aura or a stupid icon like with stim.
blyn
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada57 Posts
May 21 2010 17:48 GMT
#1071
On May 22 2010 02:47 keNn) wrote:
omg just got in platinum. will there be a reset?



yes. Reset is confirmed. itsokay you can get into diamond now.
SpurvL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden345 Posts
May 21 2010 17:50 GMT
#1072
On May 21 2010 12:15 -orb- wrote:
This is the worst patch I've ever seen in my entire life by far

DEAR FUCKING GOD ARE YOU SERIUOS


don't agree much with you, but this time i agree 100% !
Naniwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, DeMusliM, White-RA... Where are my Zerg heroes?.. Stephano <3
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 21 2010 17:50 GMT
#1073
On May 22 2010 02:47 onmach wrote:
I hope the frenzy is restricted to biological. At 25 energy a pop, you could frenzy an entire army of collosus or void rays. And I hope they put some effort into the effect rather than some red aura or a stupid icon like with stim.


It's unlikely that they put a lot of effort into it. If it makes it into the release version then yes, but for the beta it is safe to assume that it will be a quick and dirty solution.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
mecra
Profile Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 17:53:16
May 21 2010 17:51 GMT
#1074
On May 22 2010 02:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ultras will be better than before simply because the 2 food roach means less roaches and more hydras, which means an enemy unit composition with less marauders and immortals. A full tech switch would be required to build up enough armor pen to take down a full ultra, and the new frenzy spell lets ultras get in past marauder fire.

Stop saying they wont work just by looking at the ultra itself. Starcraft is not a 1v1 game, it is based on interactions between units the whole way through.


I don't agree on the "less" Marauder thing. You're assuming people will alter course or build according to what they see. Lots of games I see and play end with people NOT doing that. Thus, Ultras versus Mauraders would be still very much a case scenario and one with the Ultras probably losing.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
May 21 2010 17:52 GMT
#1075
I'm just so glad that some of the top players are not doing the balancing in this game... I can't belive that even though you are a top player that you think that you're a design and balance proffessional.

I'm NOT saying that Blizzard shouldnt use competetive players feedback, but saying that they DONT to begin with is fucking stupid.

I'm gonna laugh when people develop lategame ZvT gameplay revolved around upgraded ultras and infestors.
Mada Mada Dane
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 17:54:58
May 21 2010 17:54 GMT
#1076
Since the start of beta people have been saying ultralisks die too fast to be useful. Recently Blizzard has stated they want to make ultralisks useful. So Blizzard's solution is to reduce the ultralisk's hp by 150 so that it dies quicker, BUT the good news is that it deals more damage now. Seriously that doesn't make any sense to me.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
warped_in
Profile Joined May 2010
United States6 Posts
May 21 2010 17:54 GMT
#1077
It will take blizz more then just beta and patches to get Sc2 balanced. Time is what it will take. Time is what it took to get bw to the level that it is. Blizz will make some changes that will upset everyone to just a select few. Just give them time and they will get it right. Come on they have the best rts game that is out and look how long that it took to get right.
Some need not to forget that this is still a game
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
May 21 2010 17:55 GMT
#1078
im jumping ship from playing zerg and switching to terran.

go go imba mech
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 21 2010 17:55 GMT
#1079
And what the point of removing copper division and adding diamond ? I mean now Cooper = Bronze and Platinium = Diamond, they just changed the name .. ?
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 17:57:37
May 21 2010 17:56 GMT
#1080
On May 22 2010 02:54 Dionyseus wrote:
Since the start of beta people have been saying ultralisks die too fast to be useful. Recently Blizzard has stated they want to make ultralisks useful. So Blizzard's solution is to reduce the ultralisk's hp by 150 so that it dies quicker, BUT but but the good news is that it deals more damage now. Seriously that doesn't make any sense to me.

People have also stated that it is questionable how Zerg has no units that deal extra damage versus armored units. The developer guys wanted to change this thus they used the one unit that would least affect the current balance: ultralisk.

In their test runs however they noticed that now ultralisk made unit XXX useless or situation YYY was super faggay. To fix this they decided the health had to be changed.

The developers are not retarded. The people whining about the patch before even having the chance to enter one game with it however are.
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