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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
May 21 2010 12:13 GMT
#861
they didn't delete brood lords, i am dissapoint.
hi
Koffiegast
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands346 Posts
May 21 2010 12:16 GMT
#862
I like the overseer and infestor changes.
I totally dislike the ultra changes. Maybe we still have to figure out that ultras are supposed to only attack at places that are away from battle? Im not even sure... decreased life, while keeping the same cost, the same issues it had before (cant get to target without dying or heck it didnt even get to the targets even when it was alive...). Tier 3 upgrades still remain unchanged, roach same issues, zerglings same issues. All I see is that overseer might be more interesting to make and do some sneaky harassment.
Wut
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
May 21 2010 12:17 GMT
#863
Only thing I find great about this patch is the 3v3, 4v4, and map publishing. I'm extremely excited to play some 4v4
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
May 21 2010 12:19 GMT
#864
On May 21 2010 21:17 TwilightStar wrote:
Only thing I find great about this patch is the 3v3, 4v4, and map publishing. I'm extremely excited to play some 4v4


Yeah that's where the real strategy is..lol
Wonder when this patch hits
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
May 21 2010 12:19 GMT
#865
UDP is enabled. Does that basically equal lan latency?
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
May 21 2010 12:20 GMT
#866
I love what they are doing with the overseer as a harassment detector. We have a straight up detector, a spellcaster/detector, and a harassment detector. Great. The Ultra change sounds good. Though they are likely to still get focus fired down.
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Hasty
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada4 Posts
May 21 2010 12:22 GMT
#867
On May 21 2010 21:00 Jusciax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 20:51 Lithose wrote:
On May 21 2010 20:50 Jusciax wrote:


It costs 100 gas, no zerg is going to mass that kind of crappy unit, not even when maxed out, because you need gas to rebuild your forces after they get wiped out. And since only zerglings, drones and overlords are the only ones that dont cost gas, zerg pretty much has to store all the gas he can to survive beyond tier1.


Spending 400 gas to be able to shut down 4 production buildings mid game seems really strong to me. Maybe it won't work out like that, but its seems really really powerful.



That's 8 hydras or 16 roaches that you wont have.[b] And i would be really impressed if 4 infested terrans could shutdown 1 production building, not to mention 4. They are weak, they do moderate damage, last for short amount of time and 125 mana is huge cost and is probably more effectively spent on contaminate or changeling.


I don't think it was implied that infested terrans would shut down production. I assumed we were talking about contaminate for that purpose.

Sent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States120 Posts
May 21 2010 12:22 GMT
#868
On May 21 2010 20:42 Slunk wrote:
Lol at the league change. Now we have the same number of leagues just with other name. Don't get it.


Copper + Bronze combined into one. Plat split into two leagues.
I got nothing
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 21 2010 12:26 GMT
#869
+ Contaminate spell added:

# Costs 75 energy.
# Targets a single enemy structure which cannot train units or research upgrades for 30 seconds.


This is so disgusting.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
May 21 2010 12:26 GMT
#870
wow I read patch notes in a morning 9 hours ago

I come back from school and theres still no patch?!

Dam you blizz
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
May 21 2010 12:27 GMT
#871
On May 21 2010 21:22 Sent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 20:42 Slunk wrote:
Lol at the league change. Now we have the same number of leagues just with other name. Don't get it.


Copper + Bronze combined into one. Plat split into two leagues.

Are you saying that the new Bronze division will be twice as large as before? Are saying that Platinum and Diamond will be half the size of the current Platinum? Blizzard haven't said so explicitly so it's just speculation. Hopefully you're right because if Slunk's interpretation (the simplest interpretation) is right then the situation is identical to the status quo.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 21 2010 12:29 GMT
#872
On May 21 2010 20:42 MasterFischer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 20:38 torfteufel wrote:
On May 21 2010 20:30 MasterFischer wrote:
Complaining about the patch notes before actually going and trying the new balances changes is one if not THE fucking most retarded dumb shit to be doing ever.

Had to put it out there.. BTW:

the changes are AWESOME :D


a bazillion internet dollars you play terran and suck


its probably just that dustin bowder plays terran in his copper division and is sick his marauder rush with skipping marines all together is not working every game yet and hes pissed off :B

"its good to be the king"


I dunno where to begin, so I'll just pass arguing with you. Nevertheless changes require playtime, so complaining about it is worthless.

And yes I play Terran 1600 plat on EU, i dont have a problem with VR now, but the change is still good.


So complaining about patch changes before playing is bad to you... yet supporting the changes before playing is OK?

How is this not hypocritical?

On topic:
I'm not sure I like the forcefield change. Not really in a good/bad way, but it doesn't make sense.

What I mean is this: A colossus can break through a force field, walk up/down cliffs, walk over friendly units, yet gets surrounded by tiny ass zerglings? Why can't it just step over them and run away?

Similar thoughts for the other massive units as well. Sure, I get that if you can run from everything, bit might be gay to deal with, but to have a unit that doesn't get stopped by force fields or cliffs yet is somehow brought to a halt by tiny units just doesn't quite line up with the "physics" of the game.
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
Smikis
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 12:34:00
May 21 2010 12:30 GMT
#873
On May 21 2010 12:16 Kraz.Del wrote:
44 damage with a frenze ultralisk un-upgrade. Marauder counter?



how is 300/200 + 100/150 unit.. which will still die before reaching marauders, can be considered counter.. i cant believe they nerfed ultras hp.. frenzy is useless..

Only stun in game is 250 cannons.. but it doesnt matter.. ultra will die without stun with 450 anyway
Only slow in game conc shots, massive units were already immune
So its just infestors root that can be pretended..but noone still be using ultras in zvz.. its not like you gonna get ultra to counter roaches, that noone rly uses in lategame.. mid game sure.. but midgame you wont have ultra.. and with 15 dmg vs hydras, useless completely

Biggest problems them dying , and nerfing hp.. doesnt fix that


overseer wont be used that much.. now and then sure.. but its expensive, energy cost is huge.. 125 for terran. you wont harass with that..do you guys realize how slow overseer energy recharge..


always thought there will be be diamond league ( obviously after plat ) , i wonder if its pink icon , no eu patch is fail
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
May 21 2010 12:32 GMT
#874
Does anybody know when the patch is released?
Ovi
Profile Joined April 2010
164 Posts
May 21 2010 12:32 GMT
#875
"Zerg Set Worker Rally Point changed from R to G."

Thank you blizz
architekt
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany64 Posts
May 21 2010 12:34 GMT
#876
i want my patch now.

this is the first time the notes are out way earlier than the patch?!

losing to void ray harass is getting old, glad they fixed the range
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
May 21 2010 12:37 GMT
#877
On May 21 2010 21:34 architekt wrote:
i want my patch now.

this is the first time the notes are out way earlier than the patch?!

losing to void ray harass is getting old, glad they fixed the range


I think they might be worried about the patch breaking the balance. There's not a lot of time before phase 1 of beta ends, so if the patch breaks something they won't have much time to test it with the public.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2719 Posts
May 21 2010 12:37 GMT
#878
On May 21 2010 21:32 Ovi wrote:
"Zerg Set Worker Rally Point changed from R to G."

Thank you blizz


Yes. I was tired of change the rally point when i was making roaches...
Sent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States120 Posts
May 21 2010 12:43 GMT
#879
On May 21 2010 21:27 searcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 21:22 Sent wrote:
On May 21 2010 20:42 Slunk wrote:
Lol at the league change. Now we have the same number of leagues just with other name. Don't get it.


Copper + Bronze combined into one. Plat split into two leagues.

Are you saying that the new Bronze division will be twice as large as before? Are saying that Platinum and Diamond will be half the size of the current Platinum? Blizzard haven't said so explicitly so it's just speculation. Hopefully you're right because if Slunk's interpretation (the simplest interpretation) is right then the situation is identical to the status quo.


To be honest it wouldnt make any sense otherwise. It would just be a renaming of leagues for no reason
I got nothing
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 21 2010 12:44 GMT
#880
this patch is amazing
except for Frenzy but im not gonna get into that since everything else is just so well made this patch
im really amazed
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