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bakesale
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States187 Posts
May 21 2010 09:37 GMT
#761
On May 21 2010 12:52 Xxio wrote:
Diamond League sounds so crass, please rename it.


Don't worry, in a few months it won't exist (they'll have to keep adding a new top-level bracket and eliminating the lowest one, because people will feel bad that they are in the lowly "whatever's lowest" bracket).

On May 21 2010 12:52 Xxio wrote:
Oh, and there's no reason why infested terran need to stay in the game. No reason.


No kidding, I was happy when I saw that it was removed, only to have it cruelly re-introduced a few lines later. Can we at least get a re-name? I know this is not reality, but where do these terrans come from? It is nonsensical. Couldn't it be something like a broodling instead?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#762
any random players here raging as hard? im random and these changes sound mostly positive to me, zerg tier three btw: broodlord/corruptor>all.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
May 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#763
On May 21 2010 18:23 grog wrote:
copper -> bronze -> 5th league -> beginner league ->topaz league -> fish l.
bronze -> silver -> 4th league -> experienced league ->ametrine league -> crab l.
silver -> gold -> 3rd league -> good league ->eye of zul league -> snake l.
gold -> platinum -> 2nd league -> expert league ->pearl league -> monkey l.
platinum -> diamond -> 1st league -> pro league ->cardinal ruby league -> eagle l.


it can go on and on.... it is the same thing...

for me +1 name for players to make them feel better = satisfying 12 years olds


The name change is likely due to copper and bronze being so closely associated with each other, both physically (bronze being a metal alloy consisting primarily of copper) and aesthetically. This attention to detail is what makes Blizzard, well Blizzard. Hopefully the other mentioned UI changes will help the new Battle.net live up to the brand.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Tozar
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States245 Posts
May 21 2010 09:40 GMT
#764
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:31 grog wrote:
TL.net admins please make blizzard read these patch discussion threads
May be they will have some sense while balancing the game.

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.


Blizzard IS reading! How do you think we got this wacky patch?
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 09:42:12
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#765
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras. Let's get an idea down now that allows the ultra to even GET TO ATTACK RANGE without DYING.

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Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
Ciddass
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany149 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#766
# Costs 25 energy.
# Targets a single biological unit which deals 25% more damage and is immune to snare, stuns, and mind control for 30 seconds.

that's obviously the most imbalanced spell of the century ...

sacrificetheory
Profile Joined September 2004
United States98 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#767
On May 21 2010 18:31 Tinithor wrote:
Are people REALLY ripping on Frenzy just cause it's "WC3-ish"? Whats wrong with buff type spells... People find the wierdest reasons to dislike things. You want SC-ish spells? Lets think about all the spells in starcraft for a moment... Hmmm how many were used regularly... About 5, fantastic. Lets make another game like that.


Yes buff spells are annoying. Its my opinion i know.. but im just not into that whole " well 30+ 25% rage minus the regen spell -%20 + 3 bonus of howling gayness" is boring and doesnt make sense when we have Units that actually die instead of stand their fighting each other for 10 minutes like WC3....
We like creative spells like force field , dark swarm,. This is not a magic game. We want this to feel like an over- the top Sci Fi military strategy game.--- OBVIOUSLY
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#768
On May 21 2010 18:40 Tozar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On May 21 2010 18:31 grog wrote:
TL.net admins please make blizzard read these patch discussion threads
May be they will have some sense while balancing the game.

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.


Blizzard IS reading! How do you think we got this wacky patch?


They shouldn't listen to these type of threads though. Patch Discussion threads are absolutely terrible as far as feedback goes, and are basically on par with WoW threads maturity-wise.
grog
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey37 Posts
May 21 2010 09:43 GMT
#769
at least TL admins are reading

anyway, I am trying to keep up with the pages as much as may be I missed it so I apologize now.

but does anyone have an idea about when this patch goes live?
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
May 21 2010 09:43 GMT
#770
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
May 21 2010 09:44 GMT
#771
This patch is quite good but: take out Stimpack from Marauders finally
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
May 21 2010 09:46 GMT
#772
Europe didn't get patched yet right?
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
May 21 2010 09:48 GMT
#773
On May 21 2010 18:43 Doc Daneeka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?


If they did, it was clearly mass A move with ling/ultra with no focus firing on ultra whatsoever. No stim + kiting, either.

Yes, I don't think the testers at blizz put ultras up against mauraders. The numbers don't add up; an ultra literally dies to two volleys of a full arc formation of mauraders.
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 21 2010 09:49 GMT
#774
Apparently they are going to introduce HeartGold and SoulSilver leagues next patch.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 21 2010 09:51 GMT
#775
On May 21 2010 18:48 zomgzergrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:43 Doc Daneeka wrote:
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?


If they did, it was clearly mass A move with ling/ultra with no focus firing on ultra whatsoever. No stim + kiting, either.

Yes, I don't think the testers at blizz put ultras up against mauraders. The numbers don't add up; an ultra literally dies to two volleys of a full arc formation of mauraders.

Blizzard is the one that thinks ultralisks are getting owned by neural parasites and mass roaches. It's pretty reasonable to think blizzard isn't properly monitoring/testing the game.
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AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
May 21 2010 09:51 GMT
#776
i want that they slow down the hydralisk attack. it doesnt feel right that they shoot faster, than zerglings deal their melee attack damage. if you want make the hydra cooldown 2 times bigger and increase the dame x2.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
fathead
Profile Joined July 2008
United States158 Posts
May 21 2010 09:52 GMT
#777
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.



lol. So true. Patch hasn't even been released yet and people are already going insane. Blizzard needs to listen to its fan base as little as possible when it comes to balance. They have the numbers, we only have subjective bias. The fans are their to test and provide the numbers and tell blizzard what's fun and what isn't.

As for the patch I honestly have no idea how some of these changes will play out. I do 100% know one thing. Infested terran is now a joke. Not that I care. It isn't as though it changes the game at all. It's just funny, what they did was basically remove it from the game in such a way to not hurt the feelings of the three blizzard employees who for some reason feel in love with the unit.
World's #1 Idra Fan
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 10:07:31
May 21 2010 09:52 GMT
#778
The fuck, Frenzy for infestor sounds like such an extremely horrible idea. What the heck. That IS a WoW-skill. Prolly from the same guy that ruined the Corruptor.

EDIT: Let me add that I'd be happy if I was proven wrong. The patch has some interesting changes in all. The Overseer looks really exciting.
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
May 21 2010 09:53 GMT
#779
Every "Patch X Discussion" should be renamed to "TL User Hyperbolic Whine Thread".
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
May 21 2010 09:57 GMT
#780
Not the way to go blizzard. In my opinion even after roach nerf in patch 12 zerg was still totally dominating in late game, god, just see some games of top players (for example white-ra against sen) and results of recent tournaments. Only thing zerg has to do is to survive early game. And that has to change, because we don't want the game to end up in "you either win in first 10 minutes or you automatically lost". Therefore I'd like to see some massive broodlord nerf, hydra nerf and on the other hand adding 1 or 2 early-mid game units (lurker seems logical) which would give zerg more breathing space in early game.

(this all goes for PvZ matchup)
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
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