• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:56
CET 04:56
KST 12:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage14Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament iNu's Battles #22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [BW] Looking for Clan Thread!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13691 users

Patch 13 Discussion - Page 39

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 92 Next
bakesale
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States187 Posts
May 21 2010 09:37 GMT
#761
On May 21 2010 12:52 Xxio wrote:
Diamond League sounds so crass, please rename it.


Don't worry, in a few months it won't exist (they'll have to keep adding a new top-level bracket and eliminating the lowest one, because people will feel bad that they are in the lowly "whatever's lowest" bracket).

On May 21 2010 12:52 Xxio wrote:
Oh, and there's no reason why infested terran need to stay in the game. No reason.


No kidding, I was happy when I saw that it was removed, only to have it cruelly re-introduced a few lines later. Can we at least get a re-name? I know this is not reality, but where do these terrans come from? It is nonsensical. Couldn't it be something like a broodling instead?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#762
any random players here raging as hard? im random and these changes sound mostly positive to me, zerg tier three btw: broodlord/corruptor>all.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
May 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#763
On May 21 2010 18:23 grog wrote:
copper -> bronze -> 5th league -> beginner league ->topaz league -> fish l.
bronze -> silver -> 4th league -> experienced league ->ametrine league -> crab l.
silver -> gold -> 3rd league -> good league ->eye of zul league -> snake l.
gold -> platinum -> 2nd league -> expert league ->pearl league -> monkey l.
platinum -> diamond -> 1st league -> pro league ->cardinal ruby league -> eagle l.


it can go on and on.... it is the same thing...

for me +1 name for players to make them feel better = satisfying 12 years olds


The name change is likely due to copper and bronze being so closely associated with each other, both physically (bronze being a metal alloy consisting primarily of copper) and aesthetically. This attention to detail is what makes Blizzard, well Blizzard. Hopefully the other mentioned UI changes will help the new Battle.net live up to the brand.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Tozar
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States245 Posts
May 21 2010 09:40 GMT
#764
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:31 grog wrote:
TL.net admins please make blizzard read these patch discussion threads
May be they will have some sense while balancing the game.

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.


Blizzard IS reading! How do you think we got this wacky patch?
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 09:42:12
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#765
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras. Let's get an idea down now that allows the ultra to even GET TO ATTACK RANGE without DYING.

My siggie stands
|
|
V
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
Ciddass
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany149 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#766
# Costs 25 energy.
# Targets a single biological unit which deals 25% more damage and is immune to snare, stuns, and mind control for 30 seconds.

that's obviously the most imbalanced spell of the century ...

sacrificetheory
Profile Joined September 2004
United States98 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#767
On May 21 2010 18:31 Tinithor wrote:
Are people REALLY ripping on Frenzy just cause it's "WC3-ish"? Whats wrong with buff type spells... People find the wierdest reasons to dislike things. You want SC-ish spells? Lets think about all the spells in starcraft for a moment... Hmmm how many were used regularly... About 5, fantastic. Lets make another game like that.


Yes buff spells are annoying. Its my opinion i know.. but im just not into that whole " well 30+ 25% rage minus the regen spell -%20 + 3 bonus of howling gayness" is boring and doesnt make sense when we have Units that actually die instead of stand their fighting each other for 10 minutes like WC3....
We like creative spells like force field , dark swarm,. This is not a magic game. We want this to feel like an over- the top Sci Fi military strategy game.--- OBVIOUSLY
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
May 21 2010 09:41 GMT
#768
On May 21 2010 18:40 Tozar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On May 21 2010 18:31 grog wrote:
TL.net admins please make blizzard read these patch discussion threads
May be they will have some sense while balancing the game.

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.


Blizzard IS reading! How do you think we got this wacky patch?


They shouldn't listen to these type of threads though. Patch Discussion threads are absolutely terrible as far as feedback goes, and are basically on par with WoW threads maturity-wise.
grog
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey37 Posts
May 21 2010 09:43 GMT
#769
at least TL admins are reading

anyway, I am trying to keep up with the pages as much as may be I missed it so I apologize now.

but does anyone have an idea about when this patch goes live?
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
May 21 2010 09:43 GMT
#770
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?
payed off security
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
May 21 2010 09:44 GMT
#771
This patch is quite good but: take out Stimpack from Marauders finally
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
May 21 2010 09:46 GMT
#772
Europe didn't get patched yet right?
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
May 21 2010 09:48 GMT
#773
On May 21 2010 18:43 Doc Daneeka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?


If they did, it was clearly mass A move with ling/ultra with no focus firing on ultra whatsoever. No stim + kiting, either.

Yes, I don't think the testers at blizz put ultras up against mauraders. The numbers don't add up; an ultra literally dies to two volleys of a full arc formation of mauraders.
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 21 2010 09:49 GMT
#774
Apparently they are going to introduce HeartGold and SoulSilver leagues next patch.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 21 2010 09:51 GMT
#775
On May 21 2010 18:48 zomgzergrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 18:43 Doc Daneeka wrote:
On May 21 2010 18:41 zomgzergrush wrote:
It's quit a unanimous decision though that the ultra "balance" makes it even more useless.

I don't think the folks at blizz quite have a grasp yet of how much "terr,terr,dmg" hard armor counters are melting ultras.


really? you don't think the testers at blizzard have put ultras up against marauders at some point in this game's 5+ years of development?


If they did, it was clearly mass A move with ling/ultra with no focus firing on ultra whatsoever. No stim + kiting, either.

Yes, I don't think the testers at blizz put ultras up against mauraders. The numbers don't add up; an ultra literally dies to two volleys of a full arc formation of mauraders.

Blizzard is the one that thinks ultralisks are getting owned by neural parasites and mass roaches. It's pretty reasonable to think blizzard isn't properly monitoring/testing the game.
( ・´ー・`)
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
May 21 2010 09:51 GMT
#776
i want that they slow down the hydralisk attack. it doesnt feel right that they shoot faster, than zerglings deal their melee attack damage. if you want make the hydra cooldown 2 times bigger and increase the dame x2.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
fathead
Profile Joined July 2008
United States158 Posts
May 21 2010 09:52 GMT
#777
On May 21 2010 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

This would be the worst idea possible. 99% of the reactions are biased inaccurate whiny bullshit.



lol. So true. Patch hasn't even been released yet and people are already going insane. Blizzard needs to listen to its fan base as little as possible when it comes to balance. They have the numbers, we only have subjective bias. The fans are their to test and provide the numbers and tell blizzard what's fun and what isn't.

As for the patch I honestly have no idea how some of these changes will play out. I do 100% know one thing. Infested terran is now a joke. Not that I care. It isn't as though it changes the game at all. It's just funny, what they did was basically remove it from the game in such a way to not hurt the feelings of the three blizzard employees who for some reason feel in love with the unit.
World's #1 Idra Fan
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 10:07:31
May 21 2010 09:52 GMT
#778
The fuck, Frenzy for infestor sounds like such an extremely horrible idea. What the heck. That IS a WoW-skill. Prolly from the same guy that ruined the Corruptor.

EDIT: Let me add that I'd be happy if I was proven wrong. The patch has some interesting changes in all. The Overseer looks really exciting.
Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
May 21 2010 09:53 GMT
#779
Every "Patch X Discussion" should be renamed to "TL User Hyperbolic Whine Thread".
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
May 21 2010 09:57 GMT
#780
Not the way to go blizzard. In my opinion even after roach nerf in patch 12 zerg was still totally dominating in late game, god, just see some games of top players (for example white-ra against sen) and results of recent tournaments. Only thing zerg has to do is to survive early game. And that has to change, because we don't want the game to end up in "you either win in first 10 minutes or you automatically lost". Therefore I'd like to see some massive broodlord nerf, hydra nerf and on the other hand adding 1 or 2 early-mid game units (lurker seems logical) which would give zerg more breathing space in early game.

(this all goes for PvZ matchup)
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 92 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 175
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1517
Artosis 615
ProTech145
Snow 94
Barracks 54
910 45
Leta 44
LuMiX 5
Britney 0
League of Legends
JimRising 654
Reynor32
Counter-Strike
fl0m3180
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1063
AZ_Axe164
Other Games
summit1g9249
C9.Mang0257
WinterStarcraft244
Maynarde126
NeuroSwarm115
ViBE51
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV114
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6h 4m
KCM Race Survival
6h 4m
WardiTV Invitational
8h 4m
Lambo vs Shameless
Rogue vs uThermal
Percival vs YoungYakov
TBD vs GgMaChine
OSC
12h 4m
OSC
19h 4m
ArT vs MindelVK
MiniZergUA vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
Ultimate Battle
1d 8h
OSC
1d 10h
OSC
1d 19h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
2 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
3 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-11
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.