On March 02 2010 22:25 Artosis wrote:
oh does replay not start on right speed? oops.

and this was played on the asian server. moon does NOT play on the us server.

It's not the moon from US beta obviously, but are you certain it's the real moon Artosis ? It's really hard to believe right now

Zurles

United Kingdom1659 Posts

March 02 2010 15:29 GMT

#63

so mutas> everything

oob

Sweden630 Posts

March 02 2010 15:32 GMT

#64

DO you mind uploading the replay instead? Would be easier to see what's going on overall :o

Artosis

United States2140 Posts

March 02 2010 15:45 GMT

#65

yes, its moon. no, its not the best game ever played. yes, the strategy is very interesting (TvZ is nearly impossible atm imo, really liked his opening. very very safe.).

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

March 02 2010 16:02 GMT

#66

That was awful to watch...... terran didnt attack once, didnt scout and did nothing else than expo. Maybe he was just practicing expo tactics?

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

March 02 2010 16:03 GMT

#67

Great to see that Terran can still turtle quite well, but it seems that he needs Ravens to deal with Mutas, just like in BW where science vessels are needed for their irradiate.

mmp

United States2130 Posts

March 02 2010 16:04 GMT

#68

Can mutalisks outrun the HSM? Either way, it looks like Ravens are Terran's only chance at doing massive splash damage in the air.

PfiliTehDwarf

Germany66 Posts

March 02 2010 16:11 GMT

#69

Notwithstanding that I apprechiate everything artosis does for the community, I must say that this was below the usual standard of his work, mostly for all the reasons mentioned above

Jarvs

Australia639 Posts

March 02 2010 16:14 GMT

#70

Has anyone considered that this is beta and Moon is trying different strategies? He is known as quite an innovator in War3 and such ideas only come from trying new things.

Regardless, nice win by Artosis.

HalfAmazing

Netherlands402 Posts

March 02 2010 16:14 GMT

#71

Replays.

Eeevil

Netherlands359 Posts

March 02 2010 16:20 GMT

#72

A boring game, yeah. But it's cool to see Terran mech/air in practice.
Second long game I see played where Terran isn't Mueling like mad but goes for defense.

BTW, WTF do those terran turrets shoot, Peanuts ? The disregard the Z player had for those things was appalling. Hopefully damage done will be lowered across all races so that turrets have more time to actually provide support. (not to mention all those spontaneously combusting armies in battles))

DorF

Sweden961 Posts

March 02 2010 16:28 GMT

#73

Lol I've been playing a variation of this build for a week :D

iFU.pauline

France1695 Posts

March 02 2010 16:33 GMT

#74

i played vs moon it took me 10min to take him down, and i really suck, w3 players got serious issue with speed and expanding, they aren't a threat at all. But i have to give credit that they are good at surrounding unit LLLLL>>>OOO>>>>>LLLLL

Lefnui

United States753 Posts

March 02 2010 16:47 GMT

#75

It's amazing how stupid so many of the responses in this thread are. Why is there such skepticism about this being Moon? First of all, the OP is Artosis, not some random person with 3 posts. I think we should have some measure of trust in what he has to say. Secondly, just because Moon is a great player who is likely to have success in SC 2 doesn't mean he's going to be instantly brilliant. What matters the most at such an early stage in the game is how much practice you've had, not your overall potential. With Moon's hectic WC3 schedule I doubt he's been massing tons and tons of SC 2 games. And it's not like this player was so horrible, he could have simply been experimenting. Just because Moon is a high apm, sharp player in WC3 doesn't mean he can't play a defensive, inactive game in SC 2. This thread is just full of strange assumptions and ridiculous expectations of Moon.

On March 03 2010 01:33 paulinepain wrote:
i played vs moon it took me 10min to take him down, and i really suck, w3 players got serious issue with speed and expanding, they aren't a threat at all. But i have to give credit that they are good at surrounding unit LLLLL>>>OOO>>>>>LLLLL

Which is why Warcraft III players are at the top of many divisions, right? And I'd like to see you against Kiwi.

Jarvs

Australia639 Posts

March 02 2010 16:50 GMT

#76

You're kidding right? Do I really need to name all the war3 players that are doing exceptionally well in the beta?

Ahzz

Finland780 Posts

March 02 2010 16:58 GMT

#77

On March 03 2010 01:50 Jarvs wrote:

Show nested quote +

You're kidding right? Do I really need to name all the war3 players that are doing exceptionally well in the beta?

Do I need to start naming how many times more SC gamers there are who are doing FAR better in the beta?

wintergt

Belgium1335 Posts

March 02 2010 17:02 GMT

#78

let me guess you played vs the fake moon on the US server and not the real one on the Asian server.LLOOOLL

SwaY-

Dominican Republic463 Posts

March 02 2010 17:06 GMT

#79

facepalm at all the idiots. its beta, hes trying new shit obviously. I'm pretty sure if he knew artosis would post this he wouldnt have made the game boring.

Orlandu

China2450 Posts

March 02 2010 17:08 GMT

#80

On March 03 2010 01:58 Ahzz wrote:

Show nested quote +

Do I need to start naming how many times more SC gamers there are who are doing FAR better in the beta?

Why would you try to encourage an irrelevant (and ignorant) debate like that? Clearly there are War3 players at the very top (KiWiKaKi for example), so your statement is obviously wrong and biased, but aside from that, it's also pretty clear that the playing field is pretty level right now. Even if it wasn't, there are a multitude of reasons why such an argument is silly right now. Why are people always looking to fight about the games? The guy you quoted wasn't even saying anything negative about StarCraft players, he was just responding to a guy who clearly hasn't read the thread and is just wanting to cause trouble.