EPTNot that I ever use reapers myself, but its nice to make them useless in tvt too lolz...
This patch is random. Nothing is really being addressed apart from Infestor and Raven I suppose.
Beta Balance Update #11 (Jan 9, 2013) - Page 5
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Psychobabas
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Not that I ever use reapers myself, but its nice to make them useless in tvt too lolz... This patch is random. Nothing is really being addressed apart from Infestor and Raven I suppose. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
"The Medivac heal beam upgrade didn't go as intended. We want players to use Hellbats as meat shields, but instead, players were just using Marines and Marauders. The Hellbat changes in this patch should allow players to more easily combo Hellbats, no matter what army composition they’re creating in their games." ... I am speechless. | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
Siege Tank This change should mainly affect TvP, so that teching to mech is easier. Does david kim even play sc2? wtf. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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Atrbyg
United States513 Posts
I'm really curious how the Hellbat functions now. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:33 Serpico wrote: This change does nothing but empower all ins and cheesy play from terran. (siege tank change) This is what is bothering me about it as well. They aren't improving the late game which is where the help is REALLY needed and instead just buffing Terran capacity for early and midgame all ins. It's baffling isn't it? | ||
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:41 Exarl25 wrote: Why do you keep doing this to me Blizzard? Is David Kim really so clueless? Teching to mech was never the problem. Mech is simply not worth teching to because Protoss can dismantle a mech army so easily. You are completely wrong. Opening mech was absolute nightmare versus competent Toss. Now that you can get shit out faster, you will have more economy, better composition, faster upgrades, ghosts, etc.. There are so many things that just snowball from those changes.. | ||
mouzHeroMarine
Germany47 Posts
Good Seeker missle patch! Now it doesn't feel like a yamato-canon anymore and you can use them finally in TvZ late game because they don't need time to safe energy for seeker missle  | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:39 Seiniyta wrote: See the Oracle in that sense then as a alternative to the Observer. The problem is that Oracle's are already pretty starved for energy if you are actually being active in using them for harassment. This will just encourage Protoss to sit back and be passive with them which is boring. Blizzard really need to get their shit together and start thinking through things properly with release so rapidly approaching. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
WHAT IS THIS BLIZZARD. WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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Chloroplaste
France281 Posts
Reaper 3.8speed proxy barrack without reactor every game vs low level = insta win. Reaper are better early game and more useless late game what are they doing. They removed the insteresting passive too. Hellbats were fine now they are tanking colossus. Upgraded medivac started to be fun and strategic lategame fusion core needed upgrade now it's the same as in WoL : stupid useless upgrade. Raven missile are too good now vs zerg. Siege tank need no upgrade : change nearly nothing to mech but make 1 1 1 and other early tech imba. Switch between oracle and mothership i'm not sure about that, but oracle are too good against terran now and mine are useless against starport opening. Fungal change is ok but the range is still too op and prevent ghost and high templar against them. I was really putting hope in starcraft 2 HOTS again but now i'm really upset. | ||
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dukem
Norway189 Posts
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YyapSsap
New Zealand1511 Posts
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KamikazeDurrrp
United States95 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:43 avilo wrote: From David Kim on the Blizzard Forums: "The Medivac heal beam upgrade didn't go as intended. We want players to use Hellbats as meat shields, but instead, players were just using Marines and Marauders. The Hellbat changes in this patch should allow players to more easily combo Hellbats, no matter what army composition they’re creating in their games." ... I am speechless. You remember all those people telling us we could trust blizzard, that blizzard was smarter than we were and could fix the problems in the game given time, and that a patch like the last one wouldn't happen again? Yeah.... you can basically throw that out the window | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:39 eviltomahawk wrote: Timing attacks will be a lot crazier now with these changes to Reapers, Ravens, Hellbats, and Tanks. Raven energy usage is a lot similar to Infestor energy usage now. They both start with 50 energy, have a +25 starting energy upgrade that costs 150/150, and have a max energy of 200. Now, they both have a direct damage-dealing spell for 75 energy: Seeker Missile and Fungal Growth respectively. This means that Ravens with the starting energy upgrade automatically get a Seeker Missile when the pop out, and now they can shoot 2 HSMs at max energy whereas previously it had only been one, not to mention they have just enough energy leftover for an Auto-Turret. This is huge. I think that's how ravens should've been from the start. They are anything but cheap units, especially if you go corvid reactor before you build any. They should come into play much earlier and have actual opportunities to deal real damage, think of the science vessel in BW. Ravens might become an actual caster unit now, not just a "we are both turtling on 5 bases, so I'll make this unit that takes forever to become useful"-type of unit. | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:29 KamikazeDurrrp wrote: Reapers now useless, Ravens now even more useless, Bio back to being terrible lategame, hellbat buff made terrible by reducing the splash radius to lower than half its original state, siegemode research removal completely missing the point of why mech doesn't work, fungal still kept at 10 range "justified" by doing 10 less damage, I don't even know what the use anymore. Good job blizzard, you just made a terrible situation worse. How are ravens now even more useless when they almost halved the energy cost of HSM and it now does splash? They should be hugely more useful. Are you kidding? | ||
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feebas
Finland268 Posts
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qui
United Kingdom36 Posts
Is that in anyway good design? Is it fun? | ||
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