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Roblin
Sweden948 Posts
On January 11 2013 08:41 PVJ wrote: Why have they never tried putting the mines into the hand of the reapers, making them a tier 3 unit? etc-etc We are back at WoL basically. reapers had mines in WOL Alpha. those mines later became the vs building attack which is removed today. they can be seen in action in the WOL alpha TvZ battle report. | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
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viasacra89
United States134 Posts
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SayfT
Australia298 Posts
On January 11 2013 10:49 viasacra89 wrote: Next patch: Reapers deploy (nerfed) widow mines Don't think that will be possible as they are trying to not implement past broodwar style units (even if supply free nerfed widow mines from reapers/thor/helion/viking would be awesome!  ) | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On January 11 2013 10:17 Qikz wrote: Why do people keep mentioning mines on reapers? That'd literally be the worst idea ever for mech as it'd make mines horrible to try and get. lol if so, the unit would be made out of the barracks rather than the factory... which obviously doesn't make sense for mech. | ||
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yeastiality
Canada374 Posts
You're not helping my lack of faith in this game, David... | ||
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
Still useless in any situation in u are not playing a greedy opponent imo They need a second role in the game other than kill free stuf (unprotected workers) which almost never happen... | ||
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1a2a3a[MB]
United States297 Posts
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badname
Australia25 Posts
Also now that reaper are no longer god like vs light why not give them back their building attack in the form of an upgrade to support their use in the later game. | ||
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qwinN
Slovakia1 Post
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LastDance
New Zealand510 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
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naastyOne
491 Posts
Zergs have Fungals that Roots and does damage. Time warp slows and does no damage So it has to be limited since it is gamebreaking? | ||
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kidcrash
United States623 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On January 11 2013 07:08 pure.Wasted wrote: Have your expectations for Blizzard sunk so low that the easiest of fixes, a fix that impacts absolutely nothing except the unit in question, to unbreak something Blizzard themselves broke... is an accomplishment? They took WoL Reapers, broke them completely, then reverted them back to roughly WoL levels of uselessness. This took four months. That does not deserve praise. They might as well have not touched the unit whatsoever in this expansion for all the good it's done. T has a strong early game and a weak late game. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that experimenting with a tier 2-3 Reaper would be much more worthwhile than going back once again to the precarious balancing act that is a tier 1 harass unit. It's even worse than this if you think about it. In WoL beta (early release?) reapers were overpowered (Morrow's 5 rax reaper rush). Blizzard gradually nerfs them to nothing. HoTS starts, reapers are OP again. Blizzard gradually nerfs them to nothing. They're repeating the same mistakes over and over again. There seems to be a clear lack of learning, which is pretty distressing, considering they'd been talking about changing the reaper in HoTS months before the beta was close to being out. | ||
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ledarsi
United States475 Posts
If siege mode is shit anyway, making it hit earlier may be a buff- but it is a buff by making it hit sooner when the enemy will have fewer assets to deal with it. Removing the requirement to research siege makes early siege tanks potentially problematic, without helping them at all in army battles where they will still be weak. What should happen is buff siege tanks' sieged damage. Now, figure out how much you have to delay siege tanks to make them fair when rushed. Make siege tech's cost and research time to suit. If tanks are a problem in 1-1-1 if they deal 35 (+35 Armored) damage (my number of choice for 2 supply tanks), then make siege tech cost 200 minerals and gas, and take 2 minutes (or more) to research. Problem solved. Basically my point is that units' properties should be designed based on their late game performance, used in groups and in combination with other units in army confrontations. If there is a timing problem, or something is overpowered, then that's a good candidate for creating a tech requirement or ability research to delay it or make it more expensive, while maintaining the integrity of your late game large battles when all that stuff is available. Balancing unit properties based on timings is creating a built-in shelf life, after which the unit is useless because its properties are just worse than other units. Something almost every unit Terran has except MMM suffers from due to the sparseness of their tech tree. Everything can be reached so quickly and cheaply that they can't be stronger without being unfair. But this weakness makes them useless except for that window. Most likely this will mean increasing siege tanks' sieged damage, and making siege tech more expensive and time consuming. Not the opposite. This patch is so random and lacks any direction or understanding.... on so many levels... | ||
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Tommyth
Poland117 Posts
On January 11 2013 14:53 kidcrash wrote: Terran mech openings are a little safer against all ins but I'd like to seem them give tanks a new upgrade since there's no siege upgrade. Unfortunately the only way to fix tanks in TvP without effecting TvZ would be some sort of ability that only effects protoss or shields. New upgrade give tanks in siege mode the ability to it bleed tank damage through the shield into the HP on every hit. Damage should be 40 + 10 vs armored with HP also receiving half of total damage inflicted to the shields. U know the hardened shield was devised specifically to make immortals good vs tanks? It's the first beta patch I really dislike. The oracle <-> mothership core swap makes robo a necessity again. Why would u make oracles just to keep them at home in case of dts/banshees? Especially after time warp was taken away, they're no longer useful in mid-late game engagements... | ||
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larse
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