How does MMR work with unranked/ranked matchmaking - Page 2

On November 20 2012 07:19 Deckkie wrote:
It is explained here:

On December 23 2012 20:08 pikey26 wrote:
So in short, Unranked is essentially a secondary/'hidden' account that is on the same MMR/matchmaking pool as Ranked, and that you can be queued for an Unranked game and face those who are queued for Ranked games?

If that's right, I seem to have understood, very nice/informative post. Thank you.

ps. lol maybe I shouldn't have just dropped out of all those Unranked games to go to the bathroom or grab a drink because I queued without really giving a shit.

On December 21 2012 09:58 Azoryen wrote:
Given that there is a lot of confusion and misleading posts in the forum about this, I made a small jpg to help you visualize how this works:



Once you visualize it this way, it's much easier to understand.
So, don't listen to anyone saying there are 2 separate MMR lists or that MMRs are frozen when you play unranked, this is how it works:

1) There is only 1 MMR system. The B account has its own independent MMR, but it IS in the same MMR system of A accounts.
If the MMR list was public, it would look like this:
A Joe: 1762
A Mike: 1748
A Bill: 1735
B Joe 1732
A Nick 1727
B Mike 1722
B Nick 1718
B Bill 1713


2) A and B accounts CAN be paired against each other and they DO win/loose MMR points against each other every game
E.g.: B Joe (1732) beats A Nick (1727) and the point variation is +-15.
The new MMRs of these accounts are now:
B Joe 1747
A Nick 1712

3) The A account alone determines your ladder
The MMR of your A account will still determine your league and results count for divisions.
Your games with your B account are ignored for everything ladder related.
However, the MMR of the B account is changing every time you play with it and if it rises a lot, you will notice you are getting paired against A accounts from higher leagues.
So you can estimate the league your B account would be.

As a final note, it makes sense that Blizzard is using the word 'Unranked' instead of 'Unrated'.
Ranking for Blizzard means ladder: leagues, division. MMR is the Rating of the account, so calling it Unrated play would be incorrect.

In case you are somewhat skeptical about this, I recommed this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=slyTsK3hp2o#t=142s
Everything I'm saying is directly deduction from Dabiri's words.

On February 22 2013 00:30 Grobyc wrote:
Seeing as how this is already bumped, I have a question that I think the below post already answers, but I'll bite.+ Show Spoiler +
If I wanted to get promoted to masters from rank 1 diamond where I have a 70%~ winrate, it is not possible for me to grind unranked games to get my MMR up and then play a single ranked game afterwards hoping that it will promote me based on my unranked MMR? I don't have any more bonus pool and if I can retain some of that while still grinding and getting promoted to masters that would be ideal.

The above post would indicate I can't do that though as unranked has it's separate MMR despite unranked and ranked accounts being able to play against eachother. (assuming I read this right)

On February 22 2013 00:40 Pzl wrote:
I refuse to believe that Ranked and Unranked matches have any effect on each other. That would go against the whole purpose of adding the Unranked option to begin with. Uranked is for practicing or simply fooling around without worrying about the consequences. And Ranked is all business. No? It wouldn't make sense if you could manipulate your MMR. At least not in my opinion

On February 22 2013 01:03 llIH wrote:
For some reason I am meeting total different skilled players when playing unranked. I play ranked for that reason.

Believe what you will. It can clearly be seen that Ranked players gain and lose points when facing Unranked opponents.

On February 22 2013 02:11 Schlendrian wrote:
Hey guys,
quick question on this topic:

If I switch races in unranked mode, will I get a new MMR for the new race, or will it keep the one from my main race?
I think I read something like this in a David Kim post when they introduced the unranked play, to make it more like a place to practice. But I can't find it anymore...or maybe I was just trippin.