EPTHow does MMR work with unranked/ranked matchmaking
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Fliparoni
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
Unranked if you lose it doesn't affect your ladder ranking or MMR, if you win and your opponent was playing ranked then he will lose points while nothing happens to you. For your other question, if you played unranked matches for 2 days then back to ranked matches no you will not play new players since your rank will not have gone up or down when playing unranked mode. | ||
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Fliparoni
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On November 19 2012 17:14 Fliparoni wrote: So I'm guessing that when they do the matchmaking thing for unranked matches they place you against people of similar MMR based on wherever you are in ranked mode? Yes, they just take your MMR and use that to match you. | ||
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Fliparoni
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Sissors
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On November 19 2012 17:21 Fliparoni wrote: So I wonder how it works then if you haven't played any ranked matches and haven't even done any placement matches. They just match you with other people like that? What if you decide to play nothing but unranked and never touch the ranked ladder? How will the matchmaking system work then. I would assume (because of how it works in other games) that unranked has a hidden MMR of its own. So if you haven't played ranked, your unranked MMR is set to some decently low standard value, and as you win/lose games, this MMR changes (not to be confused with your ranked MMR, which isn't affected at all). Really, unranked, just like "normal" in League of Legends, just refers to the fact that you don't know your skill and you're not given a rank. You're still matched against people of similar skill. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On November 19 2012 17:21 Fliparoni wrote: So I wonder how it works then if you haven't played any ranked matches and haven't even done any placement matches. They just match you with other people like that? What if you decide to play nothing but unranked and never touch the ranked ladder? How will the matchmaking system work then. You begin with a default value. As you beginning to win or lose versus players who already have an MMR, your MMR gets adjusted. If you decide then to begin ranked play, you begin with the MMR you had from unranked play. But as you continue to play ranked, that ranked MMR will be seperate. So you can offrace unranked and play your main race ranked. | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
On November 19 2012 19:11 [F_]aths wrote: You begin with a default value. As you beginning to win or lose versus players who already have an MMR, your MMR gets adjusted. If you decide then to begin ranked play, you begin with the MMR you had from unranked play. But as you continue to play ranked, that ranked MMR will be seperate. So you can offrace unranked and play your main race ranked. there goes my plan to place in bronze and slay them for the rest of my days TT | ||
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SoulWager
United States464 Posts
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Iranon
United States983 Posts
On November 20 2012 02:22 SoulWager wrote: Do unranked games affect an unranked specific MMR? Yes, almost certainly there will be two separate MMRs, one mostly hidden for ranked play and one completely hidden for unranked play. They should evolve in isolation, using ranked wins/losses against any opponent to alter your ranked MMR and unranked wins/losses against any opponent to alter your unranked MMR. The first game you play of either type should use your MMR from the other type as a default starting place, with your actual first game ever of either type starting at some reasonably low (but not bottom-of-the-barrel low) starting value. | ||
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SoulWager
United States464 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5218 Posts
My guess is there is two MMRs. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
On November 19 2012 19:11 [F_]aths wrote: You begin with a default value. As you beginning to win or lose versus players who already have an MMR, your MMR gets adjusted. If you decide then to begin ranked play, you begin with the MMR you had from unranked play. But as you continue to play ranked, that ranked MMR will be seperate. So you can offrace unranked and play your main race ranked. i think the 2nd half of your statement is incorrect. You begin ranked play with the MMR you had from ranked play. the only time ranked and unranked interact is if you have a white slate of MMR in unranked, it defaults to your ranked but then keeps a separate unranked MMR. For example, when I offrace as terran in unranked, I'll begin with the MMR I have as Zerg in ranked play. My unranked MMR will drop for unranked matches. Then when I go back into ranked matches, it will have an MMR consistent with my last ranked match. ergo, two different MMRs that do not affect each other past the first unranked game. | ||
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Prime Directive
United States186 Posts
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
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TibblesEvilCat
United Kingdom766 Posts
On November 20 2012 02:42 BronzeKnee wrote: I went 16-4 as last season as a Platinum in HOTS. Decided to play unranked this season. I am consistently being matched up versus Masters and Grandmasters players now. When I go back to ranked I'll be curious who I play. My guess is there is two MMRs. i have the same thing, in unnranked it almost always vs masters/gm hots where as in ladder ranked im vs silver/bronze, both of which offer interesting dynamics to the game, both of which dont alwats give me the correct balance of oppoment, but then again i've onlt played like 400 games of hots so far :/ so maybe my mmr is so horribley wrong that who i face is right  | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
On November 20 2012 07:29 TibblesEvilCat wrote: i have the same thing, in unnranked it almost always vs masters/gm hots where as in ladder ranked im vs silver/bronze, both of which offer interesting dynamics to the game, both of which dont alwats give me the correct balance of oppoment, but then again i've onlt played like 400 games of hots so far :/ so maybe my mmr is so horribley wrong that who i face is right Maybe these master/GM players came in at the beginning. Now that there are more players, and they couldnt keep up with the skill level, they switched to unranked. I am only theorizing. | ||
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ETisME
12621 Posts
I feel through, their league in HOTS isn't so accurate, some gold players are obviously at least plat level and some diamond is way higher than he should be (no toss deathball micro, whole army a move dealing with drops etc) | ||
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