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On October 06 2012 07:31 InVerno wrote:
LoL @ New oracle spell, the dps of a worker and the income of a worker.. a worker who cost gas, tech, and apms...
I really dunno how they can even hope will be usefull \ fun in this way...
about the only thing I can think of is, is that they intend it to be a micro non combat unit, so when a game essentially becomes scrappy or a stalemate that ability can come into play to help get things moving again... About the only idea I have.
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The Widow mine indeed is unlike anything I've seen. It's something like a Spider mine, but soooo much different. Awesome.
However, I'd like to see it have less single target dmg and more aoe. Hopefuly, we'll see what works better!
Edit: Oh, so the autocast of Widow mine can not be turned off? Well, thats dumb. The unit lacks any skill then.
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On October 06 2012 07:15 Teoita wrote:
I like how they have no fucking idea of what to do with the Oracle.
This, so much.
MC idea are ok although I am not sold on having it even weaker with that speed.
Oracle's new ability is a joke... 3 dps and 3 minerals? Maybe if it were for free then it could be used for some harass. I don't see how exactly it might be worth spending energy on.
I like the Widow change a lot though. And I play toss.
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On October 06 2012 07:29 HelloSon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 07:20 Andr3 wrote:
I feel like widow mine came "place&forget" unit. Seriously, it doesn't need any babysitting or micro to use. Just place it somewhere and let it do its thing <_<.
Want more micro oriented units.. This makes no sense. You want widow mine to be "set it and forget" but you want more micro units?
I think he's saying that the feels the widow mine has become this "place and forget" and is criticizing that aspect of it and that he would rather have a unit that requires more micro to be effective. He said nothing about wanting it to be "place and forget."
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On October 06 2012 07:29 HelloSon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 07:20 Andr3 wrote:
I feel like widow mine came "place&forget" unit. Seriously, it doesn't need any babysitting or micro to use. Just place it somewhere and let it do its thing <_<.
Want more micro oriented units.. This makes no sense. You want widow mine to be "set it and forget" but you want more micro units?
It makes sense, he's blaming blizzard for making the mine a "set it and forget unit".
Imo this patch is extremely bad, the Phase Shield was a good solution to endgame PvZ, now it's the same thing again, this is stupid.
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Widow mine change sounds great. Oracle change sounds...like they don't know what to do with the unit and hope this sticks.
Actually I think I do like the purify change - 60 seconds is a ton of time in PvP, it could be the difference between holding and not holding. Was the nexus version too OP? I thought the main complaints were it was coming out too early in PvT...then they didn't increase build time.
Also the "set it and forget it" quote isn't accurate at all - it's a space control unit, the space that you want to control will change over the course of the game and changing where your widow mines are will be an effective tool for controlling space, like siege tanks/swarm hosts
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so they just took the ability that they were going to put on the corrupter and give it to the oracle? don't really see applications for it and even if it was good, don't like the ability
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I'd rather have the Oracle have a AOE spell that nullifies other spells like fungal and emp
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I think Blizz is being tooooooooo conservative with the Siphon. Make it do something crazy like 25mins/25dmg per second for 15 seconds and then tone it down in later patches.
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Retarded widow mine change and Siphon sounds fucking horrible & worthless.
I like the MS core change, tho.
Sigh...
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I like the new Widow Mine change, but I need to see the Oracle in action. That's a strange change.
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So widow mine is now a cloaked, mobile missile turret with splash. Makes the missile turret kind of a variation of it. Turret just gives full detection and fires faster. Only way better than the widow mine.
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On October 06 2012 06:54 juicyjames wrote:
PROTOSS
Mothership Core
* This unit’s Purify ability has changed.
* When a player casts Purify on their Nexus, it grants the Nexus the ability to attack, no longer requiring the Core to attach itself.
* The Nexus weapon has a range of 13 and a damage of 20.
* Purify now lasts for 60 seconds and still costs 100 energy.
Go Go Nexus Rush! :D
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So now you can't select which unit you want to attack with widow mine?
Seems like they really want to make easier to use units for terran.
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On October 06 2012 07:40 Tomasy wrote:
So now you can't select which unit you want to attack with widow mine?
Seems like they really want to make easier to use units for terran.
I'm sure you can turn off auto casting...
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Don't think less MSC HP changes anything about the stupid Blink-All ins because it still grants vision very early but least its harass potential is dead.
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On October 06 2012 07:40 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 07:40 Tomasy wrote:
So now you can't select which unit you want to attack with widow mine?
Seems like they really want to make easier to use units for terran. I'm sure you can turn off auto casting...
* This unit has a new missile ability called Unstable Payload.
* Unstable Payload is an auto-cast ability that initiates once the Widow Mine is burrowed. It cannot be turned off unless the unit is unburrowed.
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I guess the widow mine change could have been worse.
On the other hand the oracle change could not.
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On October 06 2012 07:41 Tomasy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 07:40 Dodgin wrote:On October 06 2012 07:40 Tomasy wrote:
So now you can't select which unit you want to attack with widow mine?
Seems like they really want to make easier to use units for terran. I'm sure you can turn off auto casting... * This unit has a new missile ability called Unstable Payload. * Unstable Payload is an auto-cast ability that initiates once the Widow Mine is burrowed. It cannot be turned off unless the unit is unburrowed.
oh wow, that is really stupid then -_-
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On October 06 2012 07:39 Corrik wrote:
So widow mine is now a cloaked, mobile missile turret with splash. Makes the missile turret kind of a variation of it. Turret just gives full detection and fires faster. Only way better than the widow mine.
turrets are 0 supply and minerals only
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