Oracle
* The Phase Shield ability has been removed
* This unit has a new ability called Void Siphon.
* The Oracle channels a beam at an enemy structure that deals 3 damage and drains 3 minerals every second until canceled.
* The range is 7.
* The damage/drain effect ticks when you cast the ability and every sequential second following.
* Void Siphon costs 50 energy to cast.

sounds like pillage :D

captainwaffles

United States1050 Posts

October 05 2012 22:22 GMT

#42

Damn, new changes sound oh so sweet, can't wait to play around with all the new shiny things :D

benzcity07

United States79 Posts

October 05 2012 22:23 GMT

#43

I have not idea if these changes will work or not. But I will say I absolutely love that Blizzard is taking big chances in testing the units in beta. If they continue to do this to old units as well, after they are feeling more comfortable with the new units, HotS could be pretty sweet. Fingers crossed.

GulpyBlinkeyes

United States1449 Posts

October 05 2012 22:24 GMT

#44

Glad they got rid of phase shield. Not a big fan of one ability that directly nullifies another ability. I prefer things like dark swarm/storm in BW, where storming over a dark swarm was really effective usually, but it's not like the purpose of storm was to just remove dark swarm.

On October 06 2012 07:17 SarcasmMonster wrote:

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To be honest, its more comparable to the Reaver than the Swarm host. (I don't see how you jumped from Widow mines to Swarm host...)

You're both kinda right-- it seems like a mix between the reaver and swarm host in a lot of ways. It builds a projectile to fire like the reaver, but it it has to burrow and attack periodically on a timer like the swarm host.

Psycho-SoniC

Switzerland31 Posts

October 05 2012 22:25 GMT

#45

L O V E the Widow Mine changes. Is there a video showcasing the mine yet?

jabberwockzerg

United States294 Posts

October 05 2012 22:25 GMT

#46

Hey Broodwar zergs! Want your lurkers back? Switch to Terran!

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

October 05 2012 22:26 GMT

#47

I think these are pretty good changes, HOTS gets more interesting to me with every balance update so far.

SarcasmMonster

3136 Posts

October 05 2012 22:26 GMT

#48

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framtidenskrig

Sweden92 Posts

October 05 2012 22:26 GMT

#49

still pissed off, signed up for beta at WCS EU finals, havent received it yet...

RUFinalBoss

United States266 Posts

October 05 2012 22:28 GMT

#50

widow mine is so crazy. this is a game changer, bio plus widow mine is gonna be really scarry

BreakfastBurrito

United States893 Posts

October 05 2012 22:29 GMT

#51

160 damage/40 splash sure is a lot, but cool idea

HelloSon

United States456 Posts

October 05 2012 22:29 GMT

#52

On October 06 2012 07:20 Andr3 wrote:
I feel like widow mine came "place&forget" unit. Seriously, it doesn't need any babysitting or micro to use. Just place it somewhere and let it do its thing <_<.

Want more micro oriented units..

This makes no sense. You want widow mine to be "set it and forget" but you want more micro units?

AKomrade

United States582 Posts

October 05 2012 22:30 GMT

#53

I like the Widow Mine change. It should be worth the supply it costs, not just a disposable explosive. Still hoping the Warhound will come back as an AA type mech.

Sandstorm9

41 Posts

October 05 2012 22:30 GMT

#54

On October 06 2012 06:56 Infinite976 wrote:
wow, more big changes! It's crazy how much they're reworking things constantly..

Yes... one would think that they dont have a clue of what they're doing. Just throw stuff on the wall, and see what sticks.

Kyuki

Sweden1867 Posts

October 05 2012 22:31 GMT

#55

Widow mine change might be interesting. I really dislike the void siphon though... It seems extremly gimmicky, what's the point? The harassment is actually pretty much none at all, besides doing damage to a building (something other units do alot better) and harassing to gain a bigger income would require alot bigger type of draine to be useful. A whole minute of draining (not doing tombs) would net 180 minerals, and that's very unlikely to happen. :s

InVerno

258 Posts

October 05 2012 22:31 GMT

#56

LoL @ New oracle spell, the dps of a worker and the income of a worker.. a worker who cost gas, tech, and apms...
I really dunno how they can even hope will be usefull \ fun in this way...

Kyuki

Sweden1867 Posts

October 05 2012 22:32 GMT

#57

On October 06 2012 07:30 Sandstorm9 wrote:

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Yes... one would think that they dont have a clue of what they're doing. Just throw stuff on the wall, and see what sticks.

What makes you think it should be different?

digmouse

China6332 Posts

October 05 2012 22:32 GMT

#58

I like the Widow Mine change, but what's the point of the Oracle getting the old Corruptor spell?

VKCA

Canada391 Posts

October 05 2012 22:32 GMT

#59

On October 06 2012 07:22 neoghaleon55 wrote:
5 range is insane!
muta range is 3
I think this unit would be the death of all muta play in ZvT

Um I think that happened a while ago

ClysmiC

United States2192 Posts

October 05 2012 22:33 GMT

#60

Siphon? Really? An ability that directly targets your opponent's minerals? That's such a lame ability, I really hope it gets changed.

Widow mine change looks decent though. Not sure if it'll be good or bad for gameplay, I think we'll just have to wait and see.