HOTS Patch notes [9/14/2012] - Page 59

On September 15 2012 23:56 SarcasmMonster wrote:


and has shitty units therefore should get shitty units is a race to the bottom. The Warhound would have ruined the rest of the matchups and especially v.

On September 15 2012 05:07 niteReloaded wrote:
When I read things like "The tempest is now a specific counter-unit against massive units." - I know the game is going to fail.

"Giving the strike cannon ability new utility can potentially solve many problems in the game right now.

The main idea is to increase the range of strike cannons to 13. This will give Terran a way to break siege lines, just not in the way the warhound would. Of course the spell itself needs to be changed. The animation, duration, damage, energy cost, and perhaps the stunning effect might have to change.

I suggest stunning of non-massive units, and a short duration, say 5 seconds, with a slight animation delay. Capable of one-shotting a siege tanks. Possibly, but not necessarily immortals. With stunning of non-massive, I suggest not one-shotting immortals. I also think a high energy cost is reasonable, 125 energy is probably good.

(Warhound: This ability might also be something worthwhile to consider for a resurgence of the warhound as a spellcaster. It will definitely need more areas of usage, perhaps more spells. There's no reason to force this ability on the Thor.)

TvT:
Terran has a reliable way of dealing with siege lines from the ground. Even with a scan from the opponent, a single tank can't take out a Thor fast enough, and the Thor will kill the tank. With an energy requirement, it's not something that will clear an entire siege line, but something that can put you in a better spot.

It will depend on positioning and vision, as the Thor can't do this from anywhere against a well-positioned siege line. Several tanks will shut the expensive Thor down. It will also require vision to do. Siege tanks don't have range 13 vision, but they have 13 range, which makes engagements interesting if there's an interplay with air-superiority. With the ability on the warhound, this will make it less of a problem that Thors themselves are anti air.

Currently moving siege tanks in range of another siege tank in order to take it out is risky. If the opponent scanned you might just lose that tank for no benefit. The Thor change decreases the risk involved at the cost of an extra investment.

There's a micro aspect to it, it doesn't involve simply moving your army towards the tanks to attack it, so the integrity of mech play in TvT is preserved.

It isn't as much of an investment as ghosts + nukes is. We recently saw how this turned out in the GSL with MMA vs MvP. MMA was far ahead, teched into ghosts in order to break MvP's mech. The huge investment (4 ghost academies, cloak, energy upgrade, 4 nukes, several ghosts) didn't pay off accordingly and the game was reset.

With stunning to non-massive only, this will not turn into awkward Thor vs Thor stand-offs.

On September 15 2012 23:56 SarcasmMonster wrote:


and has shitty units therefore should get shitty units is a race to the bottom. The Warhound would have ruined the rest of the matchups and especially v.