EPTOn September 15 2012 21:37 Qikz wrote:
... That's not Starcraft, that sounds like COmpany of Heroes :/
... That's not Starcraft, that sounds like COmpany of Heroes :/
Warhammer 40k Dawn of War actually.
HOTS Patch notes [9/14/2012] - Page 58
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Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
Warhammer 40k Dawn of War actually. | ||
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sunwentai
Canada8 Posts
To me, it looks as if Blizzard simply never cared about the Carrier in SC2, and was just waiting for an opportunity to get rid of it...but considering how important the Carrier is to SC lore, it just doesn't make any sense for them to think that. | ||
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SlaverR
Germany87 Posts
Oh Carrier, you are our love Where you make zergs QQ from above My buddy stay in space Show us that you can crush some face! The Warhound Unable to walk, unable to shine To put you in war was truely a crime Today you're gone and this cheers me up To all have fun and good luck! ♥ | ||
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
Yeah that's not Starcraft at all. If anything that type of mechanic detracts from depth of play. The end result would always be the same -- gain control of the "tcp" and pwn face with your "super unit" earlier than your enemy... Blah, that sounds awful. Thankfully Blizz would NEVER implement this type of thing, despite how wacky some of their decisions are at times. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
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SarcasmMonster
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:43 SarcasmMonster wrote: It's depressing to watch people defending the Warhound. It would have ruined HOTS. Roaches ruined PvZ. Infestors ruined TvZ. Zealots and Marauders made TvP/PvT very so-so match-up. I can't see Warhound doing anything worse to the game than any of those mentioned units. Maybe they were too strong, but such design unit was needed for Terran. | ||
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XiWi
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:53 Huragius wrote: Roaches ruined PvZ. Infestors ruined TvZ. Zealots and Marauders made TvP/PvT very so-so match-up. I can't see Warhound doing anything worse to the game than any of those mentioned units. Maybe they were too strong, but such design unit was needed for Terran.  and  has shitty units therefore  should get shitty units is a race to the bottom. The Warhound would have ruined the rest of the matchups and especially v. | ||
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Crawdad
614 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:55 XiWi wrote: As a terran player I'm quitting starcraft and not buying HotS Two weeks into the beta? Really? -__- | ||
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Millet
Sweden143 Posts
I want to adress all the terran QQers first though: First off, the removal of warhound means there is a strong potential for another unit to be added. Secondly, the warhound in its current state would completely ruin HotS. And people complaining that reapers will be completely OP: One reaper costs 50/50, which i would argue is about the same price as for a barracks (as gas is about worth twice as much as minerals), this means that all along you could just build and float an extra barracks instead to see up the cliff. It will just be more convenient with a reaper. | ||
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:53 Huragius wrote: Roaches ruined PvZ. Infestors ruined TvZ. Zealots and Marauders made TvP/PvT very so-so match-up. I can't see Warhound doing anything worse to the game than any of those mentioned units. Maybe they were too strong, but such design unit was needed for Terran. Roaches become useless after mid-game in PvZ, what it makes PvZ so boring is BL+Infestors compositions. Tempests adress that. You probably see this composition less and less within time. Carries + Oracle can be ok too with that new dispel ability. Terran can deal with Infestors, but such a patience, such position, such map control and such micro is needed to deal with that that is almost non-fair. Marauder made Bio Viable in TvP, but the Immortals made Mech useless. | ||
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
Pretty excellent changes all around, imho. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:56 SarcasmMonster wrote: and has shitty units therefore should get shitty units is a race to the bottom. The Warhound would have ruined the rest of the matchups and especially v.You were trying to make fun out of me, but thats actually the whole point. You either have to remove roaches/infestors/zealots/etc that reduce the complexity of other two races or give terran a unit/units that could make them just as forgiving as protoss and zerg. From what I'm seeing, that's not the case. Making Terran race equal to other races only on high korean level is a sign of very poor design game. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 15 2012 23:55 XiWi wrote: As a terran player I'm quitting starcraft and not buying HotS Oh the emotional reactions to SC2 balance lol. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 16 2012 00:06 Huragius wrote: You were trying to make fun out of me, but thats actually the whole point. You either have to remove roaches/infestors/zealots/etc that reduce the complexity of other two races or give terran a unit/units that could make them just as forgiving as protoss and zerg. From what I'm seeing, that's not the case. Making Terran race equal to other races only on high korean level is a sign of very poor design game. We both see the same problem, we just have different ideal solutions. You want to stoop down to the level of and .I want Blizz to bring and up to the level of (nerfing Fungal, replacing Colossus, etc etc) | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On September 16 2012 00:06 Huragius wrote: You were trying to make fun out of me, but thats actually the whole point. You either have to remove roaches/infestors/zealots/etc that reduce the complexity of other two races or give terran a unit/units that could make them just as forgiving as protoss and zerg. From what I'm seeing, that's not the case. Making Terran race equal to other races only on high korean level is a sign of very poor design game. Keeping Terran as the "high skill cap" race is a better alternative to ruining the things about Terran that make them fun to watch and play. I'd love to see Blizz go back and some of things with Infestors, Roaches, and Collosus that make Zerg and Protoss overly forgiving. But giving Terrans a stupid unit like Warhound only makes the game worse in this regard, not better. | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
On September 16 2012 00:09 SarcasmMonster wrote: We both see the same problem, we just have different ideal solutions. You want to stoop down to the level of and .I want Blizz to bring and up to the level of (nerfing Fungal, replacing Colossus, etc etc)This is exactly what I want. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
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