EPTAlso, while I'm extatic that they're putting the Carrier back in the game, I'm getting a bit concerned about ZvP. I really don't think Toss needs a Mothership late-game anymore (well basically vortex I'm saying), and I wish that Zerg had more options. I always thought ZvP was a bit bland from the Zerg end when Toss goes air, because all you can do is mass Corruptors and Infestors, and Corruptors are really boring.
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Chronos.
United States805 Posts
Also, while I'm extatic that they're putting the Carrier back in the game, I'm getting a bit concerned about ZvP. I really don't think Toss needs a Mothership late-game anymore (well basically vortex I'm saying), and I wish that Zerg had more options. I always thought ZvP was a bit bland from the Zerg end when Toss goes air, because all you can do is mass Corruptors and Infestors, and Corruptors are really boring. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:41 KaiserJohan wrote: Maybe if widowmine was 1 supply. 2 supply is TOO MUCH for a terran lategame army to stand a chance.. and terran lategame needs help, pretty much the goal of HotS Give it time it's a goddamn beta. Besides, it doesn't matter if warhounds come from a fact, they are a shit unit that makes the game worse and shouldn't be part of any RTS played competitively. If the alternative is between bio only and warhounds, im picking current bio thank you very much. | ||
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
also CARRIER HAS RETURNED MOTHERFUCKERS. HELL YEAH | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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End406
United States8 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:35 PiPoGevy wrote: I hope the Reaper can only see on the highground not shoot at that highground vision as well Edit: WARHOUND ISNT A MECH UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why would a unit be able to see highground and not shoot it? I'm thinking that the strength isn't going to be for the reapers to be able to shoot stuff on the highground anyways (but yea it will probably be annoying when they can)... but if the Terran has vision of the high ground without having a unit in the base that itself opens up a ton of things you can do to abuse that early. 1 or 2 reapers and 1 or 2 marines, with well placed bunkers and a couple of tanks. Will be rough to deal with. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Are you fucking sorry?! ;P | ||
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sighsigh
Australia40 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:26 Gamegene wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard understand that the Reaper changes have only made TvT, and TvT only, more obnoxious. It's bad enough that there are a lot of build order counters, we don't need the reaper to fuck up the equation even more. To be honest, I care about this more than I care about the warhound, battle hellion, and widowmine changes. I love TvT the most and will not stand for the match up turning into early game reaper wars. If they take out that passive ability and increase the health of the unit to make it more durable, I think that would make the reaper unit more fun to play with and not have it become overpowered. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4834 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:51 sighsigh wrote: If they take out that passive ability and increase the health of the unit to make it more durable, I think that would make the reaper unit more fun to play with and not have it become overpowered. I think it would make TaeJa's Reaper-Hellion-Medivac opening even more deadly. | ||
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sighsigh
Australia40 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
GTFO Warhound, you trash unit! | ||
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SarcasmMonster
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
However with the battle hellion mode being an armory-based upgradde now though, it feels like at the end of the day, Terran is not going to get much in HotS. Also like the Phase Shield ability. Will definitely add more micro to the match-up, particularly vs Fungals. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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Solarist
291 Posts
On September 15 2012 08:01 pdd wrote: This is definitely a good patch. Not sure how they couldn't see that Warhound was not going to work in the grand scheme of things. However with the battle hellion mode being an armory-based upgradde now though, it feels like at the end of the day, Terran is not going to get much in HotS. Also like the Phase Shield ability. Will definitely add more micro to the match-up, particularly vs Fungals. Well atleast in the current spec of things Terran will get to play WoL. Just with the adition of alot of good shit for other races and really shitty widow mines for themselfs. Rejoice! | ||
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Scila
Canada1849 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:21 PauseBreak wrote: Blizzard has/is fixing the hydra. Blizzard has/is fixing the BC. Blizzard has still refused to fix the Carrier. 10 damage to ground BC doesn't really fix the unit. It's still in the exact same position as Carrier - you can only get them really slowly over a long period of time where you kill off your army and replace it with BCs. You will still only see them in really long games where the opponent LETS the Terran get them, ie very rarely. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
And coming up with awesome ideas, phase shield sounds really cool. It'll bring more micro posibilities. You can break the accursed chain fungals with that! Everyone shout for 1 supply for widowmines. HotS is going to be fekin awesome. On September 15 2012 07:44 Chronos. wrote: Also, while I'm extatic that they're putting the Carrier back in the game, I'm getting a bit concerned about ZvP. I really don't think Toss needs a Mothership late-game anymore (well basically vortex I'm saying), and I wish that Zerg had more options. I always thought ZvP was a bit bland from the Zerg end when Toss goes air, because all you can do is mass Corruptors and Infestors, and Corruptors are really boring. Well hydras are kind of an option now too with speed + abduct. I'm not a massive fan of the superunit all or nothing dynamic the mothership brings (specifically vortex/neural), but it can't just be cut without some kind of smaller arbiter type unit to replace it. | ||
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