EPTTo be honest, I care about this more than I care about the warhound, battle hellion, and widowmine changes. I love TvT the most and will not stand for the match up turning into early game reaper wars.
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
To be honest, I care about this more than I care about the warhound, battle hellion, and widowmine changes. I love TvT the most and will not stand for the match up turning into early game reaper wars. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:23 S_SienZ wrote: I'm not convinced that 0/0 Battle Hellions hold up to 3/3 Chargelots. If you upgrade mech your bio sucks. If you go mech good luck going tanks against Toss who now has a new capital ship that outranges tanks. Out ranges tanks but takes like what 6-7 slow attacks(Maybe more not really sure?) to kill them? With properly placed mines and battle hellions you can easily protect tanks from ground. Yea you might have to sacrifice a couple of vikings to snipe out tempest so you won't be cost efficient in the air, but easily make up for it by owning the ground hard. And again, it's still insanely early in the beta... it's not like this is going to be released as is next week or something. Blizzard clearly want to rework the Warhound(See the patch notes about immortal/haywire missile.) so instead of just claiming its shit and Blizzard has fucked over Terran, why not give it at least a week or two and then maybe you can QQ... | ||
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RUFinalBoss
United States266 Posts
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n00b1n8R
Australia45 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:14 PauseBreak wrote: So does that make it a good unit? You understand that the community just convinced Blizzard to get a trash unit back just for the sake of "nonsensical BW nostalgia." Its only a trash unit if they don't redesign it a bit (which obviously they will). Stop trying to kick up a stink over a moot point. | ||
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Account252508
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Out ranges tanks but takes like what 6-7 slow attacks(Maybe more not really sure?) to kill them? With properly placed mines and battle hellions you can easily protect tanks from ground. Yea you might have to sacrifice a couple of vikings to snipe out tempest so you won't be cost efficient in the air, but easily make up for it by owning the ground hard. And again, it's still insanely early in the beta... it's not like this is going to be released as is next week or something. Blizzard clearly want to rework the Warhound(See the patch notes about immortal/haywire missile.) so instead of just claiming its shit and Blizzard has fucked over Terran, why not give it at least a week or two and then maybe you can QQ... I do realise it's early in the beta. I'm not going apeshit and completely giving up on HotS or w/e, but time doesn't make this patch any better for Terran. The reaper buff is stupid and everything else is just plain bad. They should've at least gave back Siege Tanks old damage and see how things worked out. Looking at that long post explaining how the Warhound was not Mech. I feel that the only way of making mech both viable and engaging to play and watch is to make the Siege Tank THE core unit again. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Glockateer
United States254 Posts
Also, for the carrier complaints, they should make the interceptors cost less considering the SC2 mechanics and the lack of micro potential. I'm not sure what would be fair, maybe 15 minerals? 10? I just know these get ripped apart quicker than in BW. The tank needs to be buffed a little if they want mech vs protoss. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:26 Gamegene wrote: Why doesn't Blizzard understand that the Reaper changes have only made TvT, and TvT only, more obnoxious. It's bad enough that there are a lot of build order counters, we don't need the reaper to fuck up the equation even more. To be honest, I care about this more than I care about the warhound, battle hellion, and widowmine changes. I love TvT the most and will not stand for the match up turning into early game reaper wars. They can make that an upgrade or something. It's not such a big deal. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:31 S_SienZ wrote: I do realise it's early in the beta. I'm not going apeshit and completely giving up on HotS or w/e, but time doesn't make this patch any better for Terran. The reaper buff is stupid and everything else is just plain bad. They should've at least gave back Siege Tanks old damage and see how things worked out. Looking at that long post explaining how the Warhound was not Mech. I feel that the only way of making mech both viable and engaging to play and watch is to make the Siege Tank THE core unit again. I didn't really mean you were going apeshit over it, but it seems quite a few Terran players are. Yea it's not the best patch for Terran but I personally don't think its that bad either. I do hope they buff the mine and the tank a little more, I couldn't agree more that if they want Mech to work the siege tank has to(And rightfully should) be the core unit! | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2142 Posts
Edit: WARHOUND ISNT A MECH UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
Besides, in BW Bio was only viable in one matchup, while mech was in all 3. In WoL, Bio is viable in 3 matchups and Mech in 2. Seems pretty acceptable to me even if mech v p doesn't work out. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Morton
United States152 Posts
db does love us haha. honestly though these changes really are fantastic for all races. I do have to wonder though, is something else in store for terran? a goliath? my faith in blizzard has been renewed! | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
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End406
United States8 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3561 Posts
I hope the Reaper can only see on the highground not shoot at that highground vision as well This is exactly what the buff adresses. Now when they micro up and down ramps vs lings or roaches it will be a lot stronger since, they can still fight, even if everyone has jumped down the ramp. I can see mass reapers becoming a viable strat and i think it should be a strategy you could throw in there now and again. | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:36 Teoita wrote: With the potential in the Widow Mine, mech still has a chance, come on people. Besides, in BW Bio was only viable in one matchup, while mech was in all 3. In WoL, Bio is viable in 3 matchups and Mech in 2. Seems pretty acceptable to me even if mech v p doesn't work out. Maybe if widowmine was 1 supply. 2 supply is TOO MUCH for a terran lategame army to stand a chance.. and terran lategame needs help, pretty much the goal of HotS | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:28 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Out ranges tanks but takes like what 6-7 slow attacks(Maybe more not really sure?) to kill them? With properly placed mines and battle hellions you can easily protect tanks from ground. Yea you might have to sacrifice a couple of vikings to snipe out tempest so you won't be cost efficient in the air, but easily make up for it by owning the ground hard. And again, it's still insanely early in the beta... it's not like this is going to be released as is next week or something. Blizzard clearly want to rework the Warhound(See the patch notes about immortal/haywire missile.) so instead of just claiming its shit and Blizzard has fucked over Terran, why not give it at least a week or two and then maybe you can QQ... Except mines are useless at 2 supply and battle hellions dont hit air, and if your going full mech how do you hit those tempest? He can just protect his tempest with stalkers from vikings which wont even be able to get close while being covered by tanks. . upgrade requirement for battle hellions and widow mines at 2 supply + no warhound means pure mech is still utterly useless against protoss. If mines changed to 1 supply it might be worth while, but having 30 supply sunk into mines is terrible. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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