EPTHOTS Patch notes [9/14/2012] - Page 41
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Silver777
United States347 Posts
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
The changes seem reasonable, even though I am quite sure there are a ton of changes to come. Not sure what to think about blizz not removing carriers, as they just don't really have a role. They can be employed in late-late game pvp, which is very gimmicky even then, and in pvz they get totally smashed by fungal and corruptors, not to mention that the new tempest will completely outshine the carrier in fighting lategame pvz broodlord armies, so basically the tempest is just an better version of the carrier in its role. I am hoping to see some changes in the beloved carrier : 3 | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On September 15 2012 06:51 ZeromuS wrote: I saw TT1 use tempests to great effect in widdling away collossus numbers, forcing stalkers and reducing collossus as well as doing some crazy damage against to colossus to boot. He only had 3 tempests but they made a huge difference. Zealot archon didnt outright lose to a 9 collossus protoss. Lategame PvP revoling around gateway units and not mass colossus could be so good, it would open up so much room for warpgate-based harassment... | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On September 15 2012 06:56 nam nam wrote: They'll just add the vulture in a patch. Better not add any more BW units without putting reaver in first!! | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2111 Posts
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
Also can we please habe the lurker back, i hate the swarm host | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:00 PiPoGevy wrote: Just give siege tanks their old damage and we are all good, make hellion in its quick mode shoot fireballs(vultures) and put widow mines on hellions, even of we have to pay to lay down one, Terran mech = solved From 35/50 to 60dmg flat? That's quite the buff you are asking for. I'd be happy with 35/55. | ||
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Mustajuttu
Sweden6 Posts
If we locate a better design for the warhound, it will return to the beta; until then, please play the game and give your feedback without the warhound in mind. " which means it might come back. but then maybe have a armory requiermet or cost 200-200 or take up 3-4 suply. Nice though that the carrier is back. such a vital unit in the late game against zerg. I personally think that the Tempest should have a Air splash dmg instead of 30+massive. it still cost 300-300 which is alot... make it 30 dmg to ground and 30+ splash against air and it would become a very usefull unit. | ||
imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
Carrier
Yes! Warhound
Yes!!! Immortal
Wait what? surely that's kind of unnecessary now. | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 15 2012 06:26 DKing6297 wrote: p.s. SOOO glad that no-micro-needed-A-Move-More-people unit is GONE finally What do you mean? Charge Lots, Stalkers, Archons, Immortals and Colossus are still in the game? | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:01 SarcasmMonster wrote: From 35/50 to 60dmg flat? That's quite the buff you are asking for. I'd be happy with 35/55. Depends which 'old damage' one means. Their old old damage was 35/70, which would be fierce. On September 15 2012 07:08 PauseBreak wrote: What do you mean? Charge Lots, Stalkers, Archons, Immortals and Colossus are still in the game? Short-ranged units require a lot of positioning and control to be effective, because without it, most of them will be unable to fight in any given engagement. That's Zealots and Archons. Stalkers are the antithesis of an 'A-move' unit. They're very weak fighters for their cost, but can make up for it with mobility (i.e. micro). Immortals/Colossi are kinda boring. No disagreement there. They benefit significantly from a bit of target-firing and repositioning during battle, but... not very microable. | ||
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hayata2.0
Canada655 Posts
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MostGroce
United States104 Posts
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
On September 15 2012 03:17 skiersteve wrote: why are people so happy about the carrier? am i missing something, i hardly ever see it in pro matches and i honestly can say out of my 900 1v1 games starting from silver league to now masters ive been up againist carriers maybe 3 or 4 times .. why keep a unit no one uses? It's an iconic unit, like a Zealot, DT, Seige Tank, Hydra or Marine. | ||
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Ghostface_Killa
United States168 Posts
I approve of these changes. I hope Terran gets an interesting and dynamic replacement for the warhound and that the carrier is also redesigned. Right now they're not cost or time efficient tech options except vs mass infestors since they can't be fungaled very easily. | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:12 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: It's an iconic unit, like a Zealot, DT, Seige Tank, Hydra or Marine. So does that make it a good unit? You understand that the community just convinced Blizzard to get a trash unit back just for the sake of "nonsensical BW nostalgia." | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6657 Posts
On September 15 2012 07:13 Ghostface_Killa wrote: ALLELEIUAH PRAISE DAT LORD. I approve of these changes. I hope Terran gets an interesting and dynamic replacement for the warhound and that the carrier is also redesigned. Right now they're not cost or time efficient tech options except vs mass infestors since they can't be fungaled very easily. o.O Carriers are horribly cost inefficient vs infestors, fungals rape interceptors! Still glad to have Carriers back though <3 | ||
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