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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 11 2010 14:13 GMT
#21
Missions weren't too hard on brutal, you just have to play them a few times to get the feel for them. So probably won't change a lot during the campaign
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 11 2010 14:55 GMT
#22
The last mission is pretty hard on Brutal, that's about it.
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Lash_
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands8 Posts
November 11 2010 15:00 GMT
#23
you guys found all-in hard?, well I guess it's hard when you don't go the standard formula of mass siege tanks in chokes + bunkers. I really hated 'In Utter Darkness' though, took me hours to beat that. Other than that Brutal is really fun imo, and I'm a gold player myself as well . So I'd say you should go for it.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
November 11 2010 15:59 GMT
#24
The last level is the only one worth playing.
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TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
November 11 2010 16:02 GMT
#25
I absolutely couldn't beat All-In on brutal when I eliminated the ground.

When I redid it and eliminated the air, I beat it first try.. xD
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Elbee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States224 Posts
November 11 2010 16:14 GMT
#26
I found the last mission to be fairly hard on Brutal, took me a couple of hours but that's about it. It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
November 11 2010 16:28 GMT
#27
the game is fine difficulty wise, except that you make far more $$ than u should for upgrades, you have access to so many it makes it easy.

and unless ur a pretty good diamond player it shouldnt be "too easy".
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
November 11 2010 16:33 GMT
#28
On November 12 2010 01:14 Elbee wrote:
I found the last mission to be fairly hard on Brutal, took me a couple of hours but that's about it. It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.



It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.


the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.



SC1 campaigns.


Them's fighting words, sonny Jim.

lulz. Okay, really though, are you positive that you aren't referring to some of the BW campaigns? Because there was absolutely nothing in SCI that couldn't be handled by massing a single unit type just like SCII. BW on the other hand became a lot more manageable when mixing units and utilizing flanking manouevers. That little uprising against Aldaris on Shakuras for example had you up against reavers, zealots, dark templars, carriers and a probe, often all at once. It actually required some planning to defeat it unlike 9/10 terran missions for SCII which was Mass marine and medic, occasionally supplemented by missions unit of choice. I'm also pretty sure that TFT is Blizzards toughest SP campaign, at least post WC2 that is.
Elbee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States224 Posts
November 11 2010 16:35 GMT
#29
On November 12 2010 01:33 Billy_ wrote:
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On November 12 2010 01:14 Elbee wrote:
I found the last mission to be fairly hard on Brutal, took me a couple of hours but that's about it. It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.


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It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.


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the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.


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SC1 campaigns.


Them's fighting words, sonny Jim.

lulz. Okay, really though, are you positive that you aren't referring to some of the BW campaigns? Because there was absolutely nothing in SCI that couldn't be handled by massing a single unit type just like SCII. BW on the other hand became a lot more manageable when mixing units and utilizing flanking manouevers. That little uprising against Aldaris on Shakuras for example had you up against reavers, zealots, dark templars, carriers and a probe, often all at once. It actually required some planning to defeat it unlike 9/10 terran missions for SCII which was Mass marine and medic, occasionally supplemented by missions unit of choice. I'm also pretty sure that TFT is Blizzards toughest SP campaign, at least post WC2 that is.

Yes, I meant the BW campaigns, my apologies.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
November 11 2010 16:40 GMT
#30
dont pick any tech or any extra research if you want it to be a challenge
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
November 11 2010 17:13 GMT
#31
From my experience, just play defense, macro up to 200/200, then go win... I really enjoyed the story though, and the campaign was just hard enough to make it feel like you had accomplished something.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 11 2010 17:27 GMT
#32
Even on brutal some of the missions are really really easy to be entirely honest. If its Zeratul control mission then its the easiest thing ever. Honestly. And for in Utter Darkness if you get a lot of upgrades really quick you should be alright as long as you continue to macro up a meaty army. Still not especially easy though but the first 1500 aren't so bad if you abuse positioning and forget about saving the archives.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:01:19
November 11 2010 17:51 GMT
#33
On November 12 2010 01:14 Elbee wrote:
I found the last mission to be fairly hard on Brutal, took me a couple of hours but that's about it. It was almost a disappointment when compared to the difficulty of some of the SC1 campaigns.

What? I suggest you go back and replay the sc/bw campaigns. They are all very easy. I would compare the sc/bw campaigns to normal difficulty in sc2.

The sc2 campaign is quite easy on brutal except for the last level, but even that level is easy if you know the correct way to play it.

edit: @Billy, the Aldaris mission you are talking about is ridiculously easy to beat with mass dragoons. That level shouldnt require any thought whatsoever. Just macro up a few control groups of goons, then a-move to victory.
RiotSpectre
Profile Joined October 2010
United States163 Posts
November 11 2010 18:31 GMT
#34
Try getting the hardmode campaign achievements, some of thim are definitely a little challenging and force you to think outside the box.

And "All In" on brutal is no cakewalk, took me 4-5 tries before I finally beat it...though I didn't tech to the PF like I should have I guess.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 11 2010 19:15 GMT
#35
it was pretty easy. a couple missions were semi-challenging, but if you aren't enjoying it, perhaps the single player just isn't your cup of tea.
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TSM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Great Britain584 Posts
November 11 2010 20:58 GMT
#36
on hard yes try going for achevments if bored
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10356 Posts
November 11 2010 21:12 GMT
#37
Remember starcraft 2 was made in mind (apparently) of the millions of inevitable newbies new to the scene, so "normal" is made for "normal" people, as in hard for a newbie but easy for a veteran. So if you're in gold you should probably play on Hard, Normal if you want it to be less challenging and Brutal if you want it to be challenging.

Also, yeah the missions do get harder and harder, at a pretty consistent rate actually. When you get closer to the end, especially the last few levels, it is significantly harder than the beginning. But of course the beginning was easy on purpose to get new players to learn the game.

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DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
November 15 2010 04:15 GMT
#38
Been doing the mission and am on the one where you have to kill the toss base and theres a wall of fire chasing you. Honestly not that hard so far even though its on brutal.

Although I picked ghosts instead of spectres because the mission was funn (played the Tosh one for liek 5 mins then aborted, I hate missions where you're not in control of everything) and now I find Spectres have god like spells oh well at least they still got nukes.

The only mission I didn't get first try so far has been the last protoss one where u defend until u kill 2500 zerg, first time I tried to keep the gold expo but then i realised I could just make a pylon wall at the top of the ramps and make a million collosi, but abandonned the Archives, might go back and try for the bonus on this one but I suspect I'd just have to make 3 pylon walls coupled with some well placed collosi anyway ...

So yeah, good input guys at least the story is interesting even though its not too hard.

Oh also, do I still get credit for those achievments which are like "Kill X units on hard" if I do it in brutal?
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 15 2010 04:26 GMT
#39
Yeah, besides the achievements, missions are easy to beat on any difficulty. I haven't gone through the entire campaign purely on brutal, but I've tried out some of the earlier ones and it doesn't feel any different from normal/hard. Getting all the achievements (the ones that have to do with hard difficulty) might be a challenge though.
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shoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden30 Posts
November 15 2010 04:44 GMT
#40
"In utter darkness" and "All-in" aren't that bad once you figure out wich unit to mass (VR's w/ upgrades for "In utter darkness" and banshee's for "All-in" if you went no air).
Sure you might need a couple of tanks and PF's to make the defence abit easier on "All-in" but other than that its not a problem.

The hardest achievement (or rather the most boring/the one that takes the longest time to get) is in my opinion Lost Viking:Gold.
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