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On February 28 2011 09:13 Simberto wrote: And then we have a happy hugparty with all of the guys? Kerrigan, and Raynor, and Mengsk, and Zeratul, DV, the Overmind, Tassadar, Adun, and also Zeratul raises all who have died again with his Protossi Magic. And Kerrigan frees all the infected terrans because she is so nice now, and it was all a misunderstanding anyways. My god! You're hired.
On a serious note I am leaning towards the dark voice being a new overmind or somehow linked with Mengsk.
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What if Kerrigan has to choose to re-infest herself to save the universe? That would be an amazing plot point.
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been a while since i played the campaign, but isnt mengsk being used by the xel naga or something?
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On February 28 2011 09:33 Falcon-sw wrote: What if Kerrigan has to choose to re-infest herself to save the universe? That would be an amazing plot point.
No offence, but that would be even more retarded than the WoL campaign.
They spend the whole WoL campaign building up with Raynors obsession in regards to bringing Kerrigan to normal so he can be with her again, then they infest her again and just make that irrelevant?
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On February 28 2011 11:42 schmutttt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 09:33 Falcon-sw wrote: What if Kerrigan has to choose to re-infest herself to save the universe? That would be an amazing plot point. No offence, but that would be even more retarded than the WoL campaign. They spend the whole WoL campaign building up with Raynors obsession in regards to bringing Kerrigan to normal so he can be with her again, then they infest her again and just make that irrelevant?
sounds consistent with the storytelling so far...
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On February 28 2011 12:34 latan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 11:42 schmutttt wrote:On February 28 2011 09:33 Falcon-sw wrote: What if Kerrigan has to choose to re-infest herself to save the universe? That would be an amazing plot point. No offence, but that would be even more retarded than the WoL campaign. They spend the whole WoL campaign building up with Raynors obsession in regards to bringing Kerrigan to normal so he can be with her again, then they infest her again and just make that irrelevant? sounds consistent with the storytelling so far...
Just need a love moment where Infested Kerrigan kisses Raynor on the cheek a la Dr. Hanson.
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"As I was your beginning - so shall I be... your end."
So Adun was the beginning of the protoss merging correct?(maybe my starcraft lore is off..) so maybe he's saying he began the unified protoss and he'll end them too
my bets on Adun
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Not sure why all the hate for Blizzard's plot writing regarding characters. Mengsk's still a dick, Infested Kerrigan was still a bitch, Raynor was still a good guy, Dominion was still a corrupt monarchy, etc. The only real change was a plot twist regarding the Overmind. Pretty much people just bitching for plot twists -- except when they actually get one, then it's outrageous and bad and not following canon. Oh, but make Tassadar the bad guy pl0x, that would be awesome.
In the end, I'm thankful that Blizzard just trudges on and writes amazing stories while ignoring the wacky masses on the internet.
Moving on to the "who/what is Dark Voice?" theorizing, dude looks like a High Templar. Makes me wonder... Samir Duran was a puppet of the Dark Voice, so could it be possible that this model we've been shown is also a puppet, but a High Templar instead of a Ghost? That also brings on the question: does the Dark Voice actually have a physical form? Maybe it interacts with the world by possessing living beings -- hence Duran and this unknown High Templar.
HMMM...
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If anyone read the starcraft comics at all, you'll find that the dark voice is most likely that creepy evil creature that the Xel-naga sealed away and likes to MC people.
EDIT: nevermind, I just found a message from Blizzard confirming that I am in fact completely wrong here. Move along.
I'd be willing to bet this was just blizzard being lazy with models.
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Watch when the 1st of April comes, and blizzard shows the dark voice is actually Raynor in a halloween costume.
Blizz if ur reading this, its ok, you dont have to credit me for the idea. Just nerf the marauders.
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On February 28 2011 13:44 arb wrote: "As I was your beginning - so shall I be... your end."
So Adun was the beginning of the protoss merging correct?(maybe my starcraft lore is off..) so maybe he's saying he began the unified protoss and he'll end them too
my bets on Adun
No, Adun was that Templar who saved the Dark Templar from execution. The Protoss were unified to begin with, they had this big war type deal where a bunch of toss decided they wanted to be individuals first, and that ended eventually when Khal or Khas or something like that (I don't remember his name) rediscovered the Khala and spread the news.
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On February 28 2011 12:40 VorcePA wrote: Just need a love moment where Infested Kerrigan kisses Raynor on the cheek a la Dr. Hanson. Didn´t Raynor kill Dr. Hanson after she got mad and infested herself? >:D
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On February 28 2011 23:00 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:40 VorcePA wrote: Just need a love moment where Infested Kerrigan kisses Raynor on the cheek a la Dr. Hanson. Didn´t Raynor kill Dr. Hanson after she got mad and infested herself? >:D
love kills
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Guys lets take notes from ALL other Blizzard games. We all know they need to create a bigger and bader evil every time, soon to be the super devil. And they love to unite old enemies against a common powerful foe.
So with this we know that kerrigan has been taken out of the control of the dark voice via SC2 wings of liberty. Just as the Overmind wanted. Now we know Blizzard wants to make a game where we build up forces and go into the phsycology of Kerrigan and who she is now no longer under control, and who she will become. So the game of Heart of the Swarm will be kerrigan finding her place while gathering her brood and building her powers.
And in the end just like WC3, WoW, WoW BC, and WoW WoLK, and WoW Cata (guessing) we will combine the 3 races (or 2 like in the end of SC1 vs the first overmind) to defend against the dark voice thus stopping the xel'naga life cycle of creating races and then merging them and then becoming them since the xel'naga cannot procreate they must become new races and they only want the best for themselves. This is the cycle they always speak of and this is the cycle that kerrigan was created to stop.
Simple, the dark voice is Duran or some kind of creature who controlled duran to guide the world to what he wanted and is going to use them to merge and create the next version of the xel'naga.
he is not a character we know of now he is brand new and the model is a cheap way that blizzard made it since the body mostly looks like protoss with high protoss technology but has face mandibles like a hydralisk.
Simple.
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On March 01 2011 01:49 Isadork wrote: Guys lets take notes from ALL other Blizzard games. We all know they need to create a bigger and bader evil every time, soon to be the super devil. And they love to unite old enemies against a common powerful foe.
So with this we know that kerrigan has been taken out of the control of the dark voice via SC2 wings of liberty. Just as the Overmind wanted. Now we know Blizzard wants to make a game where we build up forces and go into the phsycology of Kerrigan and who she is now no longer under control, and who she will become. So the game of Heart of the Swarm will be kerrigan finding her place while gathering her brood and building her powers.
And in the end just like WC3, WoW, WoW BC, and WoW WoLK, and WoW Cata (guessing) we will combine the 3 races (or 2 like in the end of SC1 vs the first overmind) to defend against the dark voice thus stopping the xel'naga life cycle of creating races and then merging them and then becoming them since the xel'naga cannot procreate they must become new races and they only want the best for themselves. This is the cycle they always speak of and this is the cycle that kerrigan was created to stop.
Simple, the dark voice is Duran or some kind of creature who controlled duran to guide the world to what he wanted and is going to use them to merge and create the next version of the xel'naga.
he is not a character we know of now he is brand new and the model is a cheap way that blizzard made it since the body mostly looks like protoss with high protoss technology but has face mandibles like a hydralisk.
Simple. Problem is the dark voice wants to break the xel'naga cycle. And Duran is probably just a shell for the dark voice or a puppet of the at best.
But yeah, all 3 races will probably have to band together near the end of LotV, but hopefully we'll have some nice plot twists which get explained later not just smack you with a "the overmind was brave and stuff" line and a tassadar never died bit and expect everyone to be fine with it(the ones who care a bit about the SC story).
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wait, so Valerian Mengsk is actually the son of Arcturus/Kerrigan?
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On March 01 2011 03:51 Bhaalgorn wrote: "the overmind was brave and stuff" line and a tassadar never died bit and expect everyone to be fine with it(the ones who care a bit about the SC story).
No the dark one never said he wanted to stop the cycle and if duran works for the dark voice from the old secret mission in BW he clearly wants to continue the cycle. Which either way is a scary thought. That pretty much will mean the destruction of all 3 races, and who wants that?
On March 01 2011 04:02 aznagent wrote: wait, so Valerian Mengsk is actually the son of Arcturus/Kerrigan?
No valerian is not the son of kerrigan he is the son of juliana pasteur, as shown in the book I, Mengsk.
(but i feel like i got trolled)
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On March 01 2011 06:42 Isadork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 03:51 Bhaalgorn wrote: "the overmind was brave and stuff" line and a tassadar never died bit and expect everyone to be fine with it(the ones who care a bit about the SC story).
No the dark one never said he wanted to stop the cycle and if duran works for the dark voice from the old secret mission in BW he clearly wants to continue the cycle. Which either way is a scary thought. That pretty much will mean the destruction of all 3 races, and who wants that? Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 04:02 aznagent wrote: wait, so Valerian Mengsk is actually the son of Arcturus/Kerrigan? No valerian is not the son of kerrigan he is the son of juliana pasteur, as shown in the book I, Mengsk. (but i feel like i got trolled)
The dark voice wants to prevent the peaceful merging of the protoss and zerg that was intended to take place, giving form to the next generation of Xel Naga. The protoss and zerg were never supposed to be enemies, the Dark Voice forced the zerg to attack. He's trying to twist and force strange hybrids of the protoss and zerg and stop the eternal cycle of Xel Naga rebirths.
Those Hybrids are merged Protoss and Zerg, but not in the intended method, and they aren't Xel Naga.
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If the dark voice actually turns out to be Tassadar, I'm going to throw Turn of The Screw at the Blizzard building while torching my degree at my feet, all the while singing "The End" by The Doors.
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