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On March 01 2011 08:36 Whitewing wrote:
The dark voice wants to prevent the peaceful merging of the protoss and zerg that was intended to take place, giving form to the next generation of Xel Naga. The protoss and zerg were never supposed to be enemies, the Dark Voice forced the zerg to attack. He's trying to twist and force strange hybrids of the protoss and zerg and stop the eternal cycle of Xel Naga rebirths.
Those Hybrids are merged Protoss and Zerg, but not in the intended method, and they aren't Xel Naga.
I gotta ask, where did you get this? I don't remeber the dark voice or anyone else saying this about the dark voice. or that the hybrid are not merging the way they should. Although i did not read the comics so i may have missed it there.
Because in the BW secret mission Duran states that the hyrbid, although yes slightly sped up do to Kerrigans infection into the swarm, is a "completion of a cycle" so duran definatly works for the xel'naga cycle, which means he is against the dark voice, if the dark voice truly wants to stop the cycle.
and since it is clearly stated in the game that the xel'naga created the protoss and zerg, and yet the dark voice states he was their creator...common he is clearly a xel'naga and since the xel'naga do this kind of thing of merging races all the time throughout history why is it so weird for for him to just be a xel'naga working for the next step of the cycle? the dark voice is using duran/narud to complete the xel'naga cycle and is trying not to let kerrigan stop it, as is fortold.
If you can show me where it says the dark voice wants to stop the xel'naga cycle, I will be ashamed of myself since i fancy myself a pretty good SC lore keeper. I will truly be ashamed.
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I believe that the true cycle for the Xel'Naga does not yield hybrids, and that what the Dark voice is doing is a perversion of the cycle, recreating beings in his own image.
This clarified a lot of things for me, hopefully this is what you are looking for.
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On February 28 2011 17:58 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Watch when the 1st of April comes, and blizzard shows the dark voice is actually Raynor in a halloween costume.
Blizz if ur reading this, its ok, you dont have to credit me for the idea. Just nerf the marauders.
Infested Tychus. Somehow.
+1 to the marauder nerf too.
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You find out the Dark Voice wants to break the cycle in the prophecy missions. I think the second one tells you how the xel'naga will transcend their creations and that a cycle will draw to an end. You might think the hybrids are just that, but I'm 100% certain the xel'naga planned the merger to take part over a long time. The final mission shows the protoss doing a last stand and after they fall the zerg are destroyed as well.
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On March 01 2011 13:40 tw!tch wrote: This clarified a lot of things for me, hopefully this is what you are looking for.
Thanks for the link it definatly explains a lot and changes a few things unfortunatly what it does not change is the basic concept of the dark voice simply being a fallen xel'naga who wants to create a more powerful version of the xel'naga instead of the normal way. Actually this makes everything easily comprehendable. But I must admit I do fele ashamed that I did not know this before. Thanks for the insight.
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On March 01 2011 09:02 Isadork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 08:36 Whitewing wrote:
The dark voice wants to prevent the peaceful merging of the protoss and zerg that was intended to take place, giving form to the next generation of Xel Naga. The protoss and zerg were never supposed to be enemies, the Dark Voice forced the zerg to attack. He's trying to twist and force strange hybrids of the protoss and zerg and stop the eternal cycle of Xel Naga rebirths.
Those Hybrids are merged Protoss and Zerg, but not in the intended method, and they aren't Xel Naga. I gotta ask, where did you get this? I don't remeber the dark voice or anyone else saying this about the dark voice. or that the hybrid are not merging the way they should. Although i did not read the comics so i may have missed it there. Because in the BW secret mission Duran states that the hyrbid, although yes slightly sped up do to Kerrigans infection into the swarm, is a "completion of a cycle" so duran definatly works for the xel'naga cycle, which means he is against the dark voice, if the dark voice truly wants to stop the cycle. The campaign touches on this as well, and since it is clearly stated in the game that the xel'naga created the protoss and zerg, and yet the dark voice states he was their creator...common he is clearly a xel'naga and since the xel'naga do this kind of thing of merging races all the time throughout history why is it so weird for for him to just be a xel'naga working for the next step of the cycle? the dark voice is using duran/narud to complete the xel'naga cycle and is trying not to let kerrigan stop it, as is fortold. If you can show me where it says the dark voice wants to stop the xel'naga cycle, I will be ashamed of myself since i fancy myself a pretty good SC lore keeper. I will truly be ashamed.
Expanded universe: Dark Templar Saga.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Templar_Saga
Also, it is easily possible that it's a retcon or that Duran is confused, as he describes himself as a servant of a greater power: unlikely that it's the Xel-Naga since the result was these monstrous hybrids that required terran tech to make (the zerg and the protoss were meant to naturally combine peacefully, without the need of terrans or terran technology). He's most likely a servant of the Dark Voice. Note that in SC2, Dr Narud (Duran Backwards!) is the leader of the foundation that 'discovered' the xel naga artifacts and somehow figured out that they can be used to turn Kerrigan human and beat the zerg on char. Kerrigan was turned to zerg by the Overmind so that she could lead the zerg to a peaceful merging with the Protoss in the end by defeating the Dark Voice, so it seems logical that 'Narud' (Whom Kerrigan recognizes immediately in the campaign) is trying to take away her power to influence the zerg.
Those monstrous Hybrids are in fact corruptions of the way the Xel-Naga should be, which are peaceful sentient beings.
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On March 02 2011 08:32 Whitewing wrote:
Those monstrous Hybrids are in fact corruptions of the way the Xel-Naga should be, which are peaceful sentient beings.
I do admit you guys schooled me on the whole peacful merging story but knowing that the original xel'naga wanted the merger to be naturel only make the story plot even more basic and less convoluted.
We know that the Dark Voice is called the fallen one, so as of right now I am almost garantee that the Dark Voice is an all new character that IS a xel'naga but some evil version of them. Like some guy who had is ice cream stepped on and now he is pissed and wants to make the xel'naga unstoppable and not like they were.
At best it means that Duran/Narud IS the dark voice, but at worst it means he serves the dark voice.
The Dark Voice is not any protoss and it is most definatly not Tassadar. He is a hybrid easily seen via his mandibles from zerg and body structure of a protoss. He prob is the first hybrid to have existed from the new way of doing it.
I guess i just don't see the need to complicate a basic story plot with character twists and make someone who is known to be good turn evil and become the Dark Voice, why can't he just be an all new character? Basic, just like Blizzards writing style.
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We know that the Dark Voice is called the fallen one, so as of right now I am almost garantee that the Dark Voice is an all new character that IS a xel'naga but some evil version of them. Like some guy who had is ice cream stepped on and now he is pissed and wants to make the xel'naga unstoppable and not like they were.
He's pissed but doesn't want to make the xel'naga unstoppable. He wants to prevent the xel'naga from "reincarnating" and is using the 2 halves needed for their rebirth to make monstrous beings to wipe out all life in the galaxy. Basically killing them and dancing on their graves with hybrid backup dancers.
At best it means that Duran/Narud IS the dark voice, but at worst it means he serves the dark voice.
Doesn't make sense since Duran already said he served a higher power and who else could that higher power be if not the dark voice. Unless there are more fallen ones. Which could mean that the xel'naga had their own "dark templar issue", but only their outcasts are actually evil and not just wanting to keep their individuality.
I'm gonna continue my baseless speculation a bit further. I'm going to assume that the dark voice is older than the protoss race(It does say it was the beginning for the protoss) and that the prophecy is older than the protoss as well.
The prophecy foretold that the zerg came and the protoss rose to fight them and then the xel'naga returned. Which is odd since how could a ancient prophecy be so accurate in it's depiction of the protoss and the zerg since it's most likely older than the 2 races.
Unless the xel'naga always uplift 2 races where one becomes almost exactly the same as the current zerg(having an overmind and being able to absorb a species DNA to mutate it so they can breed creatures which perform a role very well) and the other very similar to the protoss(khala and great psyonic potential). Which then merge peacefully so the xel'naga can be reborn in a way. Which would make sense if the Dark Voice is an evil xel'naga since it's damn obvious it has both zerg and protoss facial features.
What I'm basically trying to say that maybe the xel'naga always "create" a protoss race and a zerg race and then they merge. I believe this cycle of their happened numerous times but this time it went horribly wrong since one xel'naga got pissed off real bad and forced the overmind to direct the swarm to wipe out the protoss. This failed so now he's trying to get rid of Kerrigan so he can try again.
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On October 26 2010 14:11 yrag89 wrote:
It's the corsair pilot seeking revenge because he's being lefted out in SC2.
An interesting thing to note is that the Corsair is the only unit (with a new updated voice speeches for SC2) with the voice but not the model.
(While it does sound similar, this is different from the original SC1 Corsair voice).
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There is an actual Dark Voice Unit in the game. I think this deserves a bump as we were just going on a portrait of him before. I don't think this was posted.
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That is a pretty awesome picture.... interesting, hes an archon. I wonder if there is some more lore behind that fact.
How did you dig up that model?
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What are those abilities? The only one I recognize is blink.
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How did you find it? What map?
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Custom game called Cortex replay... The abilities are a stun, blink, Mind control, and one other I don't remember. If you look closely, you can see Hybrid destroyer arms beneath the archon arms.. He's basically a mix of an archon and hybrid destroyer.
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Looks like Kerrigan could kick the shit out of him based on the info I'm seeing.
Interesting pic.
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On April 10 2011 13:30 Danst wrote:
What are those abilities? The only one I recognize is blink.
guardian shield maelstrom mind control i dunno the other one and blink
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On April 10 2011 14:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
Looks like Kerrigan could kick the shit out of him based on the info I'm seeing.
Interesting pic.
Lol almost 1,000 shields on him. Blink. And Mindcontrol. I don't think Kerrigan would stand a chance if they were both being micro'd :\
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It's a permanent mind control by the way. Not temporary. Only adds to the power. 
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I have seen this face i think i saw it by making a map just for testing triggers ( I think it was show portrait or something and you can just light it up if u cant see it so good) PS Not 100% on this one
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Guys, that's a custom map. The creator probably made a custom model by combining the Hybrid Destroyer and Archon, then coloring it red. The abilities were added too.
Just making sure everybody understands that this is almost definitely not the official blizzard model.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1795/darkvoice.png)
