EPTI mean seriously, what the hell is that doing there ? It shows his whole face.
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Dark Voice (SPOILERS)
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Thunderfist
Poland159 Posts
I mean seriously, what the hell is that doing there ? It shows his whole face. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Either way, I play on low settings and I always pictured the Dark Voice's image this way... | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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Thunderfist
Poland159 Posts
On October 26 2010 02:36 Amestir wrote: Don't you see this portrait when the dark voice speaks in the final protoss mission? U see one from In-game avatar. It doesnt show anything beside eyes and tip of head there. | ||
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lazerwizz
Hungary53 Posts
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hadoken5
Canada519 Posts
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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:26 hadoken5 wrote: Looks identical to the HT's I hope it changes, I would like the Dark Voice to be more mysterious. I'd say this, but the top also looks a bit like the hydralisk head, so I think it's some sort of hyrid which means that the first hybrids we're seeing now in the campaign aren't actually the first. | ||
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:49 bjwithbraces wrote: I'd say this, but the top also looks a bit like the hydralisk head, so I think it's some sort of hyrid which means that the first hybrids we're seeing now in the campaign aren't actually the first. The first hybrids were seen, unfinished, in Brood War, so that wouldn't be surpsising in the slightest. | ||
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Dankmids
United States316 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
On October 26 2010 07:05 Dankmids wrote: Its just Samir Duran, no biggie. lol, watch that be true | ||
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/OavTl.jpg) hmmm.... can it be extracted higher res? | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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blindsniper
United States143 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/9TsyG.jpg) | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
The implications are huge because what if the reason Adun and crew were banished because of the open revolt against the Xel'Naga!? If you watch the cinematic in which Tassadar destroys the overmind (in the original StarCraft), this picture and Tassadar both have very similar face structure. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img715/393/52152054.jpg) | ||
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sekishusai
80 Posts
did i miss something? :X feeling dumb | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On October 26 2010 08:30 sekishusai wrote: i dont remember this dark voice guy in the campaign did i miss something? :X feeling dumb he appeared in the mini Protoss campaign were you played Zeratul ... plz don't say your one of the unlucky people who completly misssed that part :O | ||
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sekishusai
80 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
On October 26 2010 07:59 NastyMarine wrote: The structure of the Dark Voice reminds me of Tassadar or, Adun forgive me, but Adun himself :o The implications are huge because what if the reason Adun and crew were banished because of the open revolt against the Xel'Naga!? If you watch the cinematic in which Tassadar destroys the overmind (in the original StarCraft), this picture and Tassadar both have very similar face structure. ![[image loading]](http://www.sc2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/300px-tassadar-final-moment.png) Yeah agreed. <Speculations> Perhaps, Overmind fuses with Tassadar, thus becomes the Dark Voice. Tassadar tricks Zeratul into 'freeing' Kerrigan. Kerrigan becomes evil even in Human Form etc etc. After all the vision Zeratul saw was from 'Tassadar/Overmind'. However, that would be an actual plot twist so Blizzard won't do anything like that. | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
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Iranon
United States983 Posts
On October 26 2010 07:51 blindsniper wrote: =) Ph'nglui mglw'nafh [Dark Voice] R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On October 26 2010 09:18 ooni wrote: Yeah agreed. <Speculations> Perhaps, Overmind fuses with Tassadar, thus becomes the Dark Voice. Tassadar tricks Zeratul into 'freeing' Kerrigan. Kerrigan becomes evil even in Human Form etc etc. After all the vision Zeratul saw was from 'Tassadar/Overmind'. However, that would be an actual plot twist so Blizzard won't do anything like that. that would also mean that the overmind could stilll be entirely evil with tassadar just covering for it! epic | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On October 26 2010 09:18 ooni wrote: <Speculations> Perhaps, Overmind fuses with Tassadar, thus becomes the Dark Voice. Tassadar tricks Zeratul into 'freeing' Kerrigan. Kerrigan becomes evil even in Human Form etc etc. After all the vision Zeratul saw was from 'Tassadar/Overmind'. However, that would be an actual plot twist so Blizzard won't do anything like that. This would give me three orgasms. I posted this before, but I'm tired of these cliched "they were actually good!" or "grey" characters. Sometimes, we just need some pure freaking evil, even if it was for "good" reasons. | ||
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Dankmids
United States316 Posts
Dark Origins =/= Dark Voice Both have dark in it, Samir Duran is Dark skinned, and has a pretty Dark voice in Dark Origins. /plot owned. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
...unless they fuck up this concept with huge amounts of potential | ||
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On October 26 2010 07:59 NastyMarine wrote: The structure of the Dark Voice reminds me of Tassadar or, Adun forgive me, but Adun himself :o The implications are huge because what if the reason Adun and crew were banished because of the open revolt against the Xel'Naga!? If you watch the cinematic in which Tassadar destroys the overmind (in the original StarCraft), this picture and Tassadar both have very similar face structure. Adun lived thousands of years after the Xel'Naga left the Protoss. He wasn't banished either, he "died" so that the Dark Templar could escape. | ||
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Francis
Belize12 Posts
On October 26 2010 13:38 Alzadar wrote: Adun lived thousands of years after the Xel'Naga left the Protoss. He wasn't banished either, he "died" so that the Dark Templar could escape. Your faith in Blizzards continuity and adherence to canon is remarkable. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
As far as I know, it's... http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Voice#Notes In StarCraft II, a portrait called "Dark Voice" is available as an achievement reward.[5] At the end of "In Utter Darkness", the Dark Voice might say "I love it when a plan comes together", the signature line of Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith of the A-Team. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_"Hannibal"_Smith ROFL. I guess this website is wrong, but still... it's not Tassadar imho. | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
On October 26 2010 10:34 Dankmids wrote: Its still Samir Duran. Dark Origins =/= Dark Voice Both have dark in it, Samir Duran is Dark skinned, and has a pretty Dark voice in Dark Origins. /plot owned. Samir Duran isnt the Dark Voice. Rather its the other way around. Maybe the Dark Voice has plagued many a hero including Tassadar, Samir Duran, Dr. Narud, Ulrezaj, and I'm sure, others. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:01 NastyMarine wrote: Samir Duran isnt the Dark Voice. Rather its the other way around. Maybe the Dark Voice has plagued many a hero including Tassadar, Samir Duran, Dr. Narud, Ulrezaj, and I'm sure, others. I see you mentioned both Duran and Narud... Well, Narud = Duran. Read backwards. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Protoss means "firstborn", right? Dark Voice looks like protoss, so the race may have been made to look as similar as its creator. Just like the man and God (the Bible). However, I'm not sure if DV is the creator of protoss, too. It should be of zerg at least. | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
On October 26 2010 13:38 Alzadar wrote: Adun lived thousands of years after the Xel'Naga left the Protoss. He wasn't banished either, he "died" so that the Dark Templar could escape. How can you say that wasn't part of the Dark Voice's doing? Perhaps, Adun had succumb to the Dark Voices power before fighting for his "Dark" bretheren/Templar. Its probable that is the reason Adun fought for seperation from the High Templar. Maybe Zeratul will learn that is how the Dark Templar became who they are - maybe, just maybe, it was the Dark Voice's doing to rip the race apart long before the brood war. It would be in a fashion where "his plan" was set in motion long ago. I dont buy that the Dark Templar just happen to fall under a greater will from the Khala without some sort of accidental happening with the Dark Voice. I wouldnt say that when Tassadar appeared to Zeratul via a fusion with the Overmind, but as a pure 'soul' after being slain in battle against the Zerg. But since the Dark Voice plan would be combine the Zerg and Protoss prematurely in the cycle (against the Xel'Naga's natural cycle and assimilation of the Zerg and Protoss), its possible that Tassadar was forced to start the premature cycle by dismantling Zerg! That would make sense considering Kerrigan's infestation - the Overmind had sensed this when Zeratul crossed telepathic waves with it when murdering Zasz in the original StarCraft. The Overmind foresaw being eradicated and in defense of all three races, he ushered in the Queen bitch to save the day. WoL is a bi-product of the first two games and its actually turning out to be an awesome ride! | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
I dont believe the Dark Voice is a Xel'Naga. its possible, but it could be that he is of greater power. It is said that he devoured civilizations from within. With all the events surrounding the three games, I think its fair to say that all is fair game when it comes to speculation, but the Dark Voice seems to connect telepathically and control the pace of an accelerated Xel'Naga cycle to form the Hyrbid - a race which is meant to deal an absurd blow to the Koprulu Sector. It seems to be involving the elimination of all three races and any potential of the Xel'Naga emerging via the true cycle and assimilation of the Zerg and Protoss. | ||
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Darkstar_X
United States197 Posts
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jabberwocky
Singapore59 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:11 yrag89 wrote: It's the corsair pilot seeking revenge because he's being lefted out in SC2. LOL!!! +1 | ||
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
On October 26 2010 10:34 Dankmids wrote: Its still Samir Duran. Dark Origins =/= Dark Voice Both have dark in it, Samir Duran is Dark skinned, and has a pretty Dark voice in Dark Origins. /plot owned. i guess Samir Duran is just a Dark Terran we have Dark Protoss, why not dark terrans? | ||
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georgir
Bulgaria253 Posts
On October 26 2010 17:15 MindRush wrote: i guess Samir Duran is just a Dark Terran we have Dark Protoss, why not dark terrans? Just like Tosh. And Dark Ghost is more accurate, like Dark Templar. Though I guess we can go with the new word for it - Samir Duran was a Spectre. Dark Voice is definitely not Tassadar. Duran was an agent of his, Narud was too, and whether they are the same man or the link of names is just because of the common "employer" is up in the air. About Tassadar and Overmind, I've always though of the chance that they both are alive in some afterlife or Khala or whatever, and the Overmind is actually still pulling the strings somehow. Before SC2 and Dark Voice's appearance, I actually thought Duran could be an agent of the Overmind, and the hybrids part of its plan to integrate the protoss in the swarm, now that seems to be false. But we'll see... | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img208.imageshack.us/i/capturehq.png/) The real Dark Voice identity. | ||
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Latham
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Dankmids
United States316 Posts
Because hes speech in the secret starcraft mission to zeratul is creepy. And sounds like the dark voice. The only reason im even brining up Samir Duran is because the mission Dark Origins was the prelude to the starcraft 2 campaign. That mission was made 12 years ago, and the SC2/Hybrid storyline plays a huge part into it. Hell, the start of the zeratul missions are like right after Dark Origins in BW. Now Samir Duran isnt physically the Dark Voice(face/eyes/etc..), but IS the Dark voice, basically an empty talking shell. Sorry if it sounds hard to understand. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
i didn't read the whole thread. but hes obviously possessed some protoss guy it's not duran. duran is a pawn of the dark voice. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On October 26 2010 20:13 Dankmids wrote: Hell, the start of the zeratul missions are like right after Dark Origins in BW. Nope. Read the dark templar trilogy. Zeratul went away to a secluded planet and was depressed because he had killed Raszhagal. He only came back to his old self right before the sc2 campaign after he was needed to fend off an attack by the dark archon Ulrezaj (who was also a pawn of the dark voice). | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
How do you guys know its not a mutated Terran seperate from Zerg? Pfff everyone knows that its not possible, what a nub pfff xD I think that even Blizzard doesnt know whats going on | ||
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Rashia
Sweden68 Posts
And he probably even made the zerg himself, using his own DNA to create a fast and adaptable race, instead of the bulky hybrid, which probably is pretty close to the Xel'naga themselves, but with an overmind(the dark voice) When It comes to Duran, It's simply another of his pets, whom can walk among humans without being detected as zerg, simply an uber changeling. I think It's Duran on the orders on behalf of the dark voice whom is the "man" behind the Piercing the shroud mission.. It's simply not something Mengsk would do, as the hybrid is something terrans can't really control. As for the old overmind, he was like an lieutenant of the dark voice, whom was afraid of what would happend when the zerg killed all protoss and terrans. So the invasion of aiur was the overminds way of trying to escape the dark voice, which maybe can't go near Aiur for some reason? Now the question is: No one has control of the zerg (probably kerrigan), will there be a new overmind to channel the orders of the dark voice into the zerg? | ||
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KDragon5
United States9 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100906205436/starcraft/images/thumb/c/c8/Karass_SC2_Head1.jpg/571px-Karass_SC2_Head1.jpg) Anyone else see this? I only drew the connection to Karass because of the red eyes, but their armor is IDENTICAL, can't really say the same about facial structure though It is possible that Blizzard simply became lazy and just re-used Karass's portrait model though... Edit: oh wait, high templar has the same armor also,,, | ||
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ArghUScaredMe
United States712 Posts
Blizz doesn't even know how SC2 story would end. And we know how terrible WoL story was. You guys are looking WAYY too into this. It's not Tassadar or anyone we know. It's just a recycled portrait of High Templar. Blizz even recycled Nova & Kerrigan portraits FFS- one of the most important characters in the whole lore! | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On October 26 2010 09:50 Iranon wrote: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh [Dark Voice] R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That made my day, thanks. | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On October 27 2010 05:21 KDragon5 wrote: Anyone else see this? I only drew the connection to Karass because of the red eyes, but their armor is IDENTICAL, can't really say the same about facial structure though It is possible that Blizzard simply became lazy and just re-used Karass's portrait model though... Edit: oh wait, high templar has the same armor also,,, Well with that, we can safely say that it's possible that the Dark Voice isn't a hybrid at all. Someone was saying that the top of his head resembles a Hydralisk's, but so does Karass's. ..UNLESS. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On October 26 2010 09:14 GenesisX wrote: infested tassadar? O shit we're doomed! | ||
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Ravaker
United States7 Posts
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ChimTheGrim6
United States7 Posts
On October 26 2010 07:05 Dankmids wrote: Its just Samir Duran, no biggie. That's what I'm thinking. Who else would it be really? Maybe he just got a Protoss make-over. | ||
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Dankmids
United States316 Posts
He said its him. | ||
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Thanksfortheadvice2
United States5 Posts
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Liquoid
United Kingdom275 Posts
*insert cereal guy pic here* | ||
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TheKing
Australia186 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 26 2010 08:32 SmoKim wrote: he appeared in the mini Protoss campaign were you played Zeratul ... plz don't say your one of the unlucky people who completly misssed that part :O FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU User was warned for this post | ||
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Hyperion2010
United States122 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
On October 28 2010 01:10 Hyperion2010 wrote: He is actually a Chaos Toss, he drank from the Chaos Well srsly? he isn't even red. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
Could just be an oversight on Blizzard's part though. | ||
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aznagent
Hong Kong166 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On October 27 2010 14:54 Ravaker wrote: Wasn't the Dark Voice portrait originally named The Void in the beta, and they changed it for release? That could have been (is?) extremely interesting, considering the Dark Templar claim to draw their power from the Void (as apposed to the Khalai who draw their power from the Khala). They probably changed it because the race is supposed to end in harmony, hence Artanis's epic speech. The majority of the Protoss campaign will probably focus on this; if the Dark Templar really were somehow serving the Dark Voice there would be no redemption for them. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Dankmids
United States316 Posts
On January 29 2011 15:06 Bub wrote: Soo, so far how many are there so far? I was just wondering now Samir duran called again, he wanted his 3 month old bump back and wanted to let you know he is the dark voice. | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
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Mr. Enchilada
United States274 Posts
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ilmman
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
At the end of "In Utter Darkness", the Dark Voice might say "I love it when a plan comes together", the signature line of Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith of the A-Team. ' Am I the only one who thinks Blizzard should write entirely original dialogue and text with no references to god damn pop culture? I'm getting sick of it at this point, it's like they don't have anything original to say so they just throw crappy references everywhere. Just write something totally original for once, jeez. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On January 29 2011 15:06 Bub wrote: Soo, so far how many are there so far? I was just wondering now Thanks for the Bump from a 3 month old thread! This thread is talking about the origins of the dark voice - NOT how many people have it. Please read before bumping | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
On January 30 2011 03:42 Mr. Enchilada wrote: Can I ask what this is? I have read every SC book and I thought my lore knowledge was good, but I am blanking on what this is. they're as unrelated to starcraft as lord of the rings is to harry potter it's just the example of plot creation that I wanted to use. | ||
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Mr. Enchilada
United States274 Posts
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HungShark
United States134 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722191250/starcraft/images/9/93/TassadarEternal_SC2_Head1.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101227201220/starcraft/images/c/cc/DarkVoice_SC2_Head3.jpg) Notice the striking similarities in his cranial bones (if Protoss even have bones...), especially the (rounded) triangular region connecting his cheeks to his chin. Any major differences can probably be attributed to the Zerg fusion that Tassadar probably underwent during his assimilation with the Overmind (such as the mandible-looking protrusions, and the double spiked brows). Even the crown of his head looks almost identical. | ||
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voltaic
1071 Posts
But if Tassadar really is the Darkvoice, Blizzard can throw the whole protoss-minicampaign away, because it would be nonsense... Or wait, the Overmind could see in the future "-.- | ||
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Simberto
Germany11452 Posts
On October 26 2010 10:21 .Aar wrote: This would give me three orgasms. I posted this before, but I'm tired of these cliched "they were actually good!" or "grey" characters. Sometimes, we just need some pure freaking evil, even if it was for "good" reasons. How come that every time someone wants to consume all living things in a merciless swarm, everyone thinks that he is pure evil? | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On February 26 2011 05:21 Denda Reloaded wrote: It's not Tassadar: The Overmind created Kerrigan to save the Zerg from the Darkvoice. So the Darkvoice had to be "born" before Tassadar killed the Ovi. But if Tassadar really is the Darkvoice, Blizzard can throw the whole protoss-minicampaign away, because it would be nonsense... Or wait, the Overmind could see in the future "-.- Yes, overmind could have predicted that coming to aiur would result in tassadar merging with him and creating dark voice. So he created Kerrigan before that happened. But that does not explain why would he tell Zeratur to save Kerrigan unless the plan was to make her lose leadership of the Zerg so he can control them again. Maybe the vision of last Protoss stand was actually the one that will happen now that Zerg are free for the taking. Zeratur and Raynor being manipulated to do something for others is almost normal for them :D | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
Look at the Aldaris portrait: ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/d/de/Aldaris_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif) Then the Dark Voice: ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/c/cc/DarkVoice_SC2_Head3.jpg) | ||
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Mike941
United States98 Posts
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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Dayvan
United States77 Posts
On February 26 2011 05:41 Simberto wrote: How come that every time someone wants to consume all living things in a merciless swarm, everyone thinks that he is pure evil? As a hater of the WoL campaign, this would truly astonish me. And then I would hate you for giving it away XD I want to hope that the Dark Voice will have some affiliation with Samir Duran, I can't help to think that the story will progress as though Duran and the rest of Brood War never occurred | ||
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Belegurth
165 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Fo3bg.jpg) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Godstorm
Romania845 Posts
On October 27 2010 05:21 KDragon5 wrote: Anyone else see this? I only drew the connection to Karass because of the red eyes, but their armor is IDENTICAL, can't really say the same about facial structure though It is possible that Blizzard simply became lazy and just re-used Karass's portrait model though... Edit: oh wait, high templar has the same armor also,,, Actually the face is identical, look at all the protoss stuff he has on his face and then at the hybrid version that has marks of those on his face. I think this is the dark voice! Edit: Tassadar has the same features, maybe that's how blizzard makes most of their protoss lol? | ||
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.Aar
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undyinglight
United States611 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11452 Posts
On February 26 2011 05:21 Denda Reloaded wrote: It's not Tassadar: The Overmind created Kerrigan to save the Zerg from the Darkvoice. So the Darkvoice had to be "born" before Tassadar killed the Ovi. But if Tassadar really is the Darkvoice, Blizzard can throw the whole protoss-minicampaign away, because it would be nonsense... Or wait, the Overmind could see in the future "-.- All of this Information is given by NPCs. NPCs can lie. Do not trust NPCs. Edit: Actually, the Information that the Overmind created Kerrigan to ... was actually given by the Ghosttassadar if i remember correctly. So if he was the Darkvoice, of course he would lie about it. | ||
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Suvorov
294 Posts
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Voice | ||
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Simberto
Germany11452 Posts
And why would you link that, which does not actually have anything to do with what people are talking about in this thread, AND which also has the problem of taking everything any NPC says as the whole and absolute truth? I would like it so much if the people who wrote the story would implement a lot of lying and cheating NPCs, if only to make people to stop believing every single word even the most untrustworthy NPC ever says. The information we have regarding the Dark voice is from two sources, as far as i know. One, from Ghosttassadar, and two, from the vision of the future. Visions and prophecies are a bad source, and noone actually knows how that protoss stuff is working, or why a human should believe in some protoss prophecy. And i don't think that Ghosttassadar is someone who should be trusted blindly, either. He is a ghost, and was in direct contact with the spirit of the Overmind, the most corruptive influence we know of, for a prolonged period of time. | ||
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Volume
United States104 Posts
What would be his motive? Perhaps he feels like he carrying out the Xel'Naga's will. Will we ever see a Xel'Naga? Perhaps his religious devotion has led him to want to reach ultimate divinity in what the Xel'Naga originally tried to create-- perfect essence and form. Is Tassadar behind disbanding the Zerg to dissolve his biggest threat? And is he using his influence on human scientists to create an army for himself? Is the Dark Voice Sargeras? Are the Xel'Naga actually the Titans? Is the Overmind an Old God? Is Skeram from WoW a Protoss Stalker? Will Thrall and Jimmy defeat the Dark Voice? I think I'm tripping out. | ||
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SoymasterYOS
United States18 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On February 27 2011 12:21 DisaFear wrote: Makes me even more excited for the next campaign episode Seeing as how Blizzard had over a decade to make the next chapter of the Starcraft story and ended up just making a whole mess of the entire thing, I don't even know what they can do to make it flow. | ||
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Ordained
United States779 Posts
On February 27 2011 19:28 FinestHour wrote: Seeing as how Blizzard had over a decade to make the next chapter of the Starcraft story and ended up just making a whole mess of the entire thing, I don't even know what they can do to make it flow. With the current goings of Blizzard writing, I would not be suprised to find out the Dark Voice is a good guy too and things will end happily. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11452 Posts
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Ordained
United States779 Posts
On February 28 2011 09:13 Simberto wrote: And then we have a happy hugparty with all of the guys? Kerrigan, and Raynor, and Mengsk, and Zeratul, DV, the Overmind, Tassadar, Adun, and also Zeratul raises all who have died again with his Protossi Magic. And Kerrigan frees all the infected terrans because she is so nice now, and it was all a misunderstanding anyways. My god! You're hired. On a serious note I am leaning towards the dark voice being a new overmind or somehow linked with Mengsk. | ||
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Falcon-sw
United States324 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On February 28 2011 09:33 Falcon-sw wrote: What if Kerrigan has to choose to re-infest herself to save the universe? That would be an amazing plot point. No offence, but that would be even more retarded than the WoL campaign. They spend the whole WoL campaign building up with Raynors obsession in regards to bringing Kerrigan to normal so he can be with her again, then they infest her again and just make that irrelevant? | ||
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
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latan
740 Posts
On February 28 2011 11:42 schmutttt wrote: No offence, but that would be even more retarded than the WoL campaign. They spend the whole WoL campaign building up with Raynors obsession in regards to bringing Kerrigan to normal so he can be with her again, then they infest her again and just make that irrelevant? sounds consistent with the storytelling so far... | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On February 28 2011 12:34 latan wrote: sounds consistent with the storytelling so far... Just need a love moment where Infested Kerrigan kisses Raynor on the cheek a la Dr. Hanson. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
So Adun was the beginning of the protoss merging correct?(maybe my starcraft lore is off..) so maybe he's saying he began the unified protoss and he'll end them too my bets on Adun | ||
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UruzuNine
Canada162 Posts
In the end, I'm thankful that Blizzard just trudges on and writes amazing stories while ignoring the wacky masses on the internet. Moving on to the "who/what is Dark Voice?" theorizing, dude looks like a High Templar. Makes me wonder... Samir Duran was a puppet of the Dark Voice, so could it be possible that this model we've been shown is also a puppet, but a High Templar instead of a Ghost? That also brings on the question: does the Dark Voice actually have a physical form? Maybe it interacts with the world by possessing living beings -- hence Duran and this unknown High Templar. HMMM... | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
EDIT: nevermind, I just found a message from Blizzard confirming that I am in fact completely wrong here. Move along. I'd be willing to bet this was just blizzard being lazy with models. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
Blizz if ur reading this, its ok, you dont have to credit me for the idea. Just nerf the marauders. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On February 28 2011 13:44 arb wrote: "As I was your beginning - so shall I be... your end." So Adun was the beginning of the protoss merging correct?(maybe my starcraft lore is off..) so maybe he's saying he began the unified protoss and he'll end them too my bets on Adun No, Adun was that Templar who saved the Dark Templar from execution. The Protoss were unified to begin with, they had this big war type deal where a bunch of toss decided they wanted to be individuals first, and that ended eventually when Khal or Khas or something like that (I don't remember his name) rediscovered the Khala and spread the news. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On February 28 2011 12:40 VorcePA wrote: Just need a love moment where Infested Kerrigan kisses Raynor on the cheek a la Dr. Hanson. Didn´t Raynor kill Dr. Hanson after she got mad and infested herself? >:D | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 28 2011 23:00 Forumite wrote: Didn´t Raynor kill Dr. Hanson after she got mad and infested herself? >:D love kills | ||
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Isadork
Canada14 Posts
So with this we know that kerrigan has been taken out of the control of the dark voice via SC2 wings of liberty. Just as the Overmind wanted. Now we know Blizzard wants to make a game where we build up forces and go into the phsycology of Kerrigan and who she is now no longer under control, and who she will become. So the game of Heart of the Swarm will be kerrigan finding her place while gathering her brood and building her powers. And in the end just like WC3, WoW, WoW BC, and WoW WoLK, and WoW Cata (guessing) we will combine the 3 races (or 2 like in the end of SC1 vs the first overmind) to defend against the dark voice thus stopping the xel'naga life cycle of creating races and then merging them and then becoming them since the xel'naga cannot procreate they must become new races and they only want the best for themselves. This is the cycle they always speak of and this is the cycle that kerrigan was created to stop. Simple, the dark voice is Duran or some kind of creature who controlled duran to guide the world to what he wanted and is going to use them to merge and create the next version of the xel'naga. he is not a character we know of now he is brand new and the model is a cheap way that blizzard made it since the body mostly looks like protoss with high protoss technology but has face mandibles like a hydralisk. Simple. | ||
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Bhaalgorn
Slovenia214 Posts
On March 01 2011 01:49 Isadork wrote: Guys lets take notes from ALL other Blizzard games. We all know they need to create a bigger and bader evil every time, soon to be the super devil. And they love to unite old enemies against a common powerful foe. So with this we know that kerrigan has been taken out of the control of the dark voice via SC2 wings of liberty. Just as the Overmind wanted. Now we know Blizzard wants to make a game where we build up forces and go into the phsycology of Kerrigan and who she is now no longer under control, and who she will become. So the game of Heart of the Swarm will be kerrigan finding her place while gathering her brood and building her powers. And in the end just like WC3, WoW, WoW BC, and WoW WoLK, and WoW Cata (guessing) we will combine the 3 races (or 2 like in the end of SC1 vs the first overmind) to defend against the dark voice thus stopping the xel'naga life cycle of creating races and then merging them and then becoming them since the xel'naga cannot procreate they must become new races and they only want the best for themselves. This is the cycle they always speak of and this is the cycle that kerrigan was created to stop. Simple, the dark voice is Duran or some kind of creature who controlled duran to guide the world to what he wanted and is going to use them to merge and create the next version of the xel'naga. he is not a character we know of now he is brand new and the model is a cheap way that blizzard made it since the body mostly looks like protoss with high protoss technology but has face mandibles like a hydralisk. Simple. Problem is the dark voice wants to break the xel'naga cycle. And Duran is probably just a shell for the dark voice or a puppet of the at best. But yeah, all 3 races will probably have to band together near the end of LotV, but hopefully we'll have some nice plot twists which get explained later not just smack you with a "the overmind was brave and stuff" line and a tassadar never died bit and expect everyone to be fine with it(the ones who care a bit about the SC story). | ||
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aznagent
Hong Kong166 Posts
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Isadork
Canada14 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:51 Bhaalgorn wrote: "the overmind was brave and stuff" line and a tassadar never died bit and expect everyone to be fine with it(the ones who care a bit about the SC story). No the dark one never said he wanted to stop the cycle and if duran works for the dark voice from the old secret mission in BW he clearly wants to continue the cycle. Which either way is a scary thought. That pretty much will mean the destruction of all 3 races, and who wants that? On March 01 2011 04:02 aznagent wrote: wait, so Valerian Mengsk is actually the son of Arcturus/Kerrigan? No valerian is not the son of kerrigan he is the son of juliana pasteur, as shown in the book I, Mengsk. (but i feel like i got trolled) | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 01 2011 06:42 Isadork wrote: No the dark one never said he wanted to stop the cycle and if duran works for the dark voice from the old secret mission in BW he clearly wants to continue the cycle. Which either way is a scary thought. That pretty much will mean the destruction of all 3 races, and who wants that? No valerian is not the son of kerrigan he is the son of juliana pasteur, as shown in the book I, Mengsk. (but i feel like i got trolled) The dark voice wants to prevent the peaceful merging of the protoss and zerg that was intended to take place, giving form to the next generation of Xel Naga. The protoss and zerg were never supposed to be enemies, the Dark Voice forced the zerg to attack. He's trying to twist and force strange hybrids of the protoss and zerg and stop the eternal cycle of Xel Naga rebirths. Those Hybrids are merged Protoss and Zerg, but not in the intended method, and they aren't Xel Naga. | ||
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Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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Isadork
Canada14 Posts
On March 01 2011 08:36 Whitewing wrote: The dark voice wants to prevent the peaceful merging of the protoss and zerg that was intended to take place, giving form to the next generation of Xel Naga. The protoss and zerg were never supposed to be enemies, the Dark Voice forced the zerg to attack. He's trying to twist and force strange hybrids of the protoss and zerg and stop the eternal cycle of Xel Naga rebirths. Those Hybrids are merged Protoss and Zerg, but not in the intended method, and they aren't Xel Naga. I gotta ask, where did you get this? I don't remeber the dark voice or anyone else saying this about the dark voice. or that the hybrid are not merging the way they should. Although i did not read the comics so i may have missed it there. Because in the BW secret mission Duran states that the hyrbid, although yes slightly sped up do to Kerrigans infection into the swarm, is a "completion of a cycle" so duran definatly works for the xel'naga cycle, which means he is against the dark voice, if the dark voice truly wants to stop the cycle. and since it is clearly stated in the game that the xel'naga created the protoss and zerg, and yet the dark voice states he was their creator...common he is clearly a xel'naga and since the xel'naga do this kind of thing of merging races all the time throughout history why is it so weird for for him to just be a xel'naga working for the next step of the cycle? the dark voice is using duran/narud to complete the xel'naga cycle and is trying not to let kerrigan stop it, as is fortold. If you can show me where it says the dark voice wants to stop the xel'naga cycle, I will be ashamed of myself since i fancy myself a pretty good SC lore keeper. I will truly be ashamed. | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
This clarified a lot of things for me, hopefully this is what you are looking for. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44116 Posts
On February 28 2011 17:58 ihasaKAROT wrote: Watch when the 1st of April comes, and blizzard shows the dark voice is actually Raynor in a halloween costume. Blizz if ur reading this, its ok, you dont have to credit me for the idea. Just nerf the marauders. Infested Tychus. Somehow. +1 to the marauder nerf too. | ||
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Bhaalgorn
Slovenia214 Posts
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Isadork
Canada14 Posts
On March 01 2011 13:40 tw!tch wrote: This clarified a lot of things for me, hopefully this is what you are looking for. Thanks for the link it definatly explains a lot and changes a few things unfortunatly what it does not change is the basic concept of the dark voice simply being a fallen xel'naga who wants to create a more powerful version of the xel'naga instead of the normal way. Actually this makes everything easily comprehendable. But I must admit I do fele ashamed that I did not know this before. Thanks for the insight. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 01 2011 09:02 Isadork wrote: I gotta ask, where did you get this? I don't remeber the dark voice or anyone else saying this about the dark voice. or that the hybrid are not merging the way they should. Although i did not read the comics so i may have missed it there. Because in the BW secret mission Duran states that the hyrbid, although yes slightly sped up do to Kerrigans infection into the swarm, is a "completion of a cycle" so duran definatly works for the xel'naga cycle, which means he is against the dark voice, if the dark voice truly wants to stop the cycle. The campaign touches on this as well, and since it is clearly stated in the game that the xel'naga created the protoss and zerg, and yet the dark voice states he was their creator...common he is clearly a xel'naga and since the xel'naga do this kind of thing of merging races all the time throughout history why is it so weird for for him to just be a xel'naga working for the next step of the cycle? the dark voice is using duran/narud to complete the xel'naga cycle and is trying not to let kerrigan stop it, as is fortold. If you can show me where it says the dark voice wants to stop the xel'naga cycle, I will be ashamed of myself since i fancy myself a pretty good SC lore keeper. I will truly be ashamed. Expanded universe: Dark Templar Saga. http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Templar_Saga Also, it is easily possible that it's a retcon or that Duran is confused, as he describes himself as a servant of a greater power: unlikely that it's the Xel-Naga since the result was these monstrous hybrids that required terran tech to make (the zerg and the protoss were meant to naturally combine peacefully, without the need of terrans or terran technology). He's most likely a servant of the Dark Voice. Note that in SC2, Dr Narud (Duran Backwards!) is the leader of the foundation that 'discovered' the xel naga artifacts and somehow figured out that they can be used to turn Kerrigan human and beat the zerg on char. Kerrigan was turned to zerg by the Overmind so that she could lead the zerg to a peaceful merging with the Protoss in the end by defeating the Dark Voice, so it seems logical that 'Narud' (Whom Kerrigan recognizes immediately in the campaign) is trying to take away her power to influence the zerg. Those monstrous Hybrids are in fact corruptions of the way the Xel-Naga should be, which are peaceful sentient beings. | ||
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Isadork
Canada14 Posts
On March 02 2011 08:32 Whitewing wrote: Those monstrous Hybrids are in fact corruptions of the way the Xel-Naga should be, which are peaceful sentient beings. I do admit you guys schooled me on the whole peacful merging story but knowing that the original xel'naga wanted the merger to be naturel only make the story plot even more basic and less convoluted. We know that the Dark Voice is called the fallen one, so as of right now I am almost garantee that the Dark Voice is an all new character that IS a xel'naga but some evil version of them. Like some guy who had is ice cream stepped on and now he is pissed and wants to make the xel'naga unstoppable and not like they were. At best it means that Duran/Narud IS the dark voice, but at worst it means he serves the dark voice. The Dark Voice is not any protoss and it is most definatly not Tassadar. He is a hybrid easily seen via his mandibles from zerg and body structure of a protoss. He prob is the first hybrid to have existed from the new way of doing it. I guess i just don't see the need to complicate a basic story plot with character twists and make someone who is known to be good turn evil and become the Dark Voice, why can't he just be an all new character? Basic, just like Blizzards writing style. | ||
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Bhaalgorn
Slovenia214 Posts
We know that the Dark Voice is called the fallen one, so as of right now I am almost garantee that the Dark Voice is an all new character that IS a xel'naga but some evil version of them. Like some guy who had is ice cream stepped on and now he is pissed and wants to make the xel'naga unstoppable and not like they were. He's pissed but doesn't want to make the xel'naga unstoppable. He wants to prevent the xel'naga from "reincarnating" and is using the 2 halves needed for their rebirth to make monstrous beings to wipe out all life in the galaxy. Basically killing them and dancing on their graves with hybrid backup dancers. At best it means that Duran/Narud IS the dark voice, but at worst it means he serves the dark voice. Doesn't make sense since Duran already said he served a higher power and who else could that higher power be if not the dark voice. Unless there are more fallen ones. Which could mean that the xel'naga had their own "dark templar issue", but only their outcasts are actually evil and not just wanting to keep their individuality. I'm gonna continue my baseless speculation a bit further. I'm going to assume that the dark voice is older than the protoss race(It does say it was the beginning for the protoss) and that the prophecy is older than the protoss as well. The prophecy foretold that the zerg came and the protoss rose to fight them and then the xel'naga returned. Which is odd since how could a ancient prophecy be so accurate in it's depiction of the protoss and the zerg since it's most likely older than the 2 races. Unless the xel'naga always uplift 2 races where one becomes almost exactly the same as the current zerg(having an overmind and being able to absorb a species DNA to mutate it so they can breed creatures which perform a role very well) and the other very similar to the protoss(khala and great psyonic potential). Which then merge peacefully so the xel'naga can be reborn in a way. Which would make sense if the Dark Voice is an evil xel'naga since it's damn obvious it has both zerg and protoss facial features. What I'm basically trying to say that maybe the xel'naga always "create" a protoss race and a zerg race and then they merge. I believe this cycle of their happened numerous times but this time it went horribly wrong since one xel'naga got pissed off real bad and forced the overmind to direct the swarm to wipe out the protoss. This failed so now he's trying to get rid of Kerrigan so he can try again. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:11 yrag89 wrote: It's the corsair pilot seeking revenge because he's being lefted out in SC2. An interesting thing to note is that the Corsair is the only unit (with a new updated voice speeches for SC2) with the voice but not the model. (While it does sound similar, this is different from the original SC1 Corsair voice). + Show Spoiler + | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1795/darkvoice.png) There is an actual Dark Voice Unit in the game. I think this deserves a bump as we were just going on a portrait of him before. I don't think this was posted. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
How did you dig up that model? | ||
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Danst
United States1 Post
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Herper
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Interesting pic. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 10 2011 13:30 Danst wrote: What are those abilities? The only one I recognize is blink. guardian shield maelstrom mind control i dunno the other one and blink | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 10 2011 14:54 Cloud9157 wrote: Looks like Kerrigan could kick the shit out of him based on the info I'm seeing. Interesting pic. Lol almost 1,000 shields on him. Blink. And Mindcontrol. I don't think Kerrigan would stand a chance if they were both being micro'd :\ | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
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smaugswe
Sweden121 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
Just making sure everybody understands that this is almost definitely not the official blizzard model. | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
Whats the point of this bump? | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
On July 17 2011 16:45 LaserCat wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n500/SoymasterYos/Me.png) This Guy's name is SoyMasterSOY. He is a Troll. Wtf? Are you sure your not the troll? | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
On July 17 2011 17:22 MasterReY wrote: Everyone can make a "Dark Voice" unit in a custom map, with any model and any abilities he likes. Whats the point of this bump? Are you honestly asking why a guy called LaserCat with one post who's talking about trolls necro'd a thread? | ||
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Hydra3
United States32 Posts
On October 26 2010 09:14 GenesisX wrote: infested tassadar? OOOOooooo come to think of it he probably is some old protoss legend hybrid-ized | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
Well, the portrait is pretty cool once you blow it up and lighten it. Would love to see a mission actually based around him in HotS. Interesting plot line they brought up with that. | ||
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