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ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
November 24 2009 02:47 GMT
#2141
Hi guys!

I haven't been slacking on my training, I had to stop for 2 weeks because I was sick (and midterms hit same time :X) but I got back right after!

Height: 5'9"

Initial:
+ Show Spoiler +

Squat: 130 lbs
Bench Press: 85 lbs
Deadlift: 160 lbs
Military Press: 50 lbs
Pendlay Rows: 85 lbs
Weight: ~150 lbs


Current:
+ Show Spoiler +

Squat: 175 lbs
Bench Press: 115 lbs
Deadlift: 185 lbs
Military Press: 75 lbs
Pendlay Rows: 120 lbs
Weight: ~152 lbs


I started in mid-September, and took that 2 week break at the beginning of November. How do the results look? I've been eating more but it seems to not be enough Q_Q.

I've also been having a lot of trouble with deadlifts. I'm having tons of difficulty trying to keep my back from rounding when getting to my heavier weights. I have absolutely no difficulty with my squats thus far but I feel that having a weak deadlift will definitely catch up to me.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 02:58:53
November 24 2009 02:58 GMT
#2142
Would need to see vids of your form

Progress looks pretty good considering the sickness
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 03:09:42
November 24 2009 03:08 GMT
#2143
So, I am developing imbalances with my right upper body due to it simply being much stronger than my left, so probably responding better to the training. It is as simple to correct this as just focusing on my left side more stringently? I use free weights only.

edit: Everything I generally read says that it will balance itself out but it actually seems to be getting worse. I make sure my form is perfect as well so I don't think that's an issue
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 24 2009 03:24 GMT
#2144
thanks again eshlow
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 24 2009 03:43 GMT
#2145
On November 24 2009 12:08 Romance_us wrote:
So, I am developing imbalances with my right upper body due to it simply being much stronger than my left, so probably responding better to the training. It is as simple to correct this as just focusing on my left side more stringently? I use free weights only.

edit: Everything I generally read says that it will balance itself out but it actually seems to be getting worse. I make sure my form is perfect as well so I don't think that's an issue


Err, what kind of exercises are you doing? Do you use dumbells?

If you're using barbells and it is being exacerbate then use DBs.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 04:05:55
November 24 2009 04:05 GMT
#2146
On November 24 2009 12:43 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2009 12:08 Romance_us wrote:
So, I am developing imbalances with my right upper body due to it simply being much stronger than my left, so probably responding better to the training. It is as simple to correct this as just focusing on my left side more stringently? I use free weights only.

edit: Everything I generally read says that it will balance itself out but it actually seems to be getting worse. I make sure my form is perfect as well so I don't think that's an issue


Err, what kind of exercises are you doing? Do you use dumbells?

If you're using barbells and it is being exacerbate then use DBs.


Oh sorry for not clarifying. I don't use barbells at all. My workout consists of sliding weight dumbbells with practically as many plates as I'd ever need, and a pull-up bar (just discovered sternum chin-ups and they are amazing.. ). I do supine curls and rows and presses and all of the standard well-accepted exercises.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 24 2009 04:27 GMT
#2147
On November 24 2009 13:05 Romance_us wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2009 12:43 eshlow wrote:
On November 24 2009 12:08 Romance_us wrote:
So, I am developing imbalances with my right upper body due to it simply being much stronger than my left, so probably responding better to the training. It is as simple to correct this as just focusing on my left side more stringently? I use free weights only.

edit: Everything I generally read says that it will balance itself out but it actually seems to be getting worse. I make sure my form is perfect as well so I don't think that's an issue


Err, what kind of exercises are you doing? Do you use dumbells?

If you're using barbells and it is being exacerbate then use DBs.


Oh sorry for not clarifying. I don't use barbells at all. My workout consists of sliding weight dumbbells with practically as many plates as I'd ever need, and a pull-up bar (just discovered sternum chin-ups and they are amazing.. ). I do supine curls and rows and presses and all of the standard well-accepted exercises.


If you stick with DBs it should even out as you get stronger.

If you're THAT worried about it add an extra set for the left once in a while.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
November 24 2009 05:04 GMT
#2148
On November 24 2009 13:27 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2009 13:05 Romance_us wrote:
On November 24 2009 12:43 eshlow wrote:
On November 24 2009 12:08 Romance_us wrote:
So, I am developing imbalances with my right upper body due to it simply being much stronger than my left, so probably responding better to the training. It is as simple to correct this as just focusing on my left side more stringently? I use free weights only.

edit: Everything I generally read says that it will balance itself out but it actually seems to be getting worse. I make sure my form is perfect as well so I don't think that's an issue


Err, what kind of exercises are you doing? Do you use dumbells?

If you're using barbells and it is being exacerbate then use DBs.


Oh sorry for not clarifying. I don't use barbells at all. My workout consists of sliding weight dumbbells with practically as many plates as I'd ever need, and a pull-up bar (just discovered sternum chin-ups and they are amazing.. ). I do supine curls and rows and presses and all of the standard well-accepted exercises.


If you stick with DBs it should even out as you get stronger.

If you're THAT worried about it add an extra set for the left once in a while.


Alrighty thanks. I think I might just be in a bad stage of it. My right arm/shoulder is much more defined than my left hahahaha. Good thing winter has just begun
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 24 2009 07:31 GMT
#2149
YAY I have DOMS today, all through my chest...I think I will be able to put back on the size I have lost
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 24 2009 13:19 GMT
#2150
i'm waking up at the crack of dawn tomorrow morning for a morning swimming session. it's not going to be fun and i'll be falling asleep during classes. i have a bit of new inspiration as well. my swim coach is a japanese guy who is probably in his 20s. he is really fast at swimming and he has that swimmer lean and muscular body. i'm gonna work my arms much more from now on.
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 14:08:41
November 24 2009 14:07 GMT
#2151
Today an instructor came to me while i was doing my presses, he said i was locking my knees and that it was wrong cause locked knees would load my lower back too much. It was just before my last set so I tried to unlock them a bit in my final set but it didn't feel right. The theory is also not making a lot of sense to me, because I do not see how this unloads my back. My back position essentially stays the same, though I just became more unstable. Also I do not feel like my lower back strength is keeping me back in my presses, but shoulder strength is.

I just watched some vids with press instructions and it looks like they should be locked at all times during the press, right?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 24 2009 17:49 GMT
#2152
On November 24 2009 23:07 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Today an instructor came to me while i was doing my presses, he said i was locking my knees and that it was wrong cause locked knees would load my lower back too much. It was just before my last set so I tried to unlock them a bit in my final set but it didn't feel right. The theory is also not making a lot of sense to me, because I do not see how this unloads my back. My back position essentially stays the same, though I just became more unstable. Also I do not feel like my lower back strength is keeping me back in my presses, but shoulder strength is.

I just watched some vids with press instructions and it looks like they should be locked at all times during the press, right?


Yes, they should be locked or very slightly bent near the start but straight when you are pressing.

Strict press you should not have any leg involvement.

Obviously, it's not a very good idea to lean backwards either because of hyperextension of the spine so try to keep that minimal as well.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 24 2009 19:02 GMT
#2153
did anyone take a look at that powerbreathing thing i linked to?


read it damnit
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 20:48:36
November 24 2009 20:48 GMT
#2154
the first day going back after a week or so unintentional break seems intimidating doesnt it? back in a few hrs!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
November 24 2009 21:01 GMT
#2155
On November 25 2009 05:48 Duke wrote:
the first day going back after a week or so unintentional break seems intimidating doesnt it? back in a few hrs!


For sure. I am debating whether or not I want to go this afternoon just for 30 minutes of cardio... I am hesitant because I am kind of tired and I did work out yesterday - both weights and cardio - so I feel justified in "not" going... But I probably will go... Eventually... sometime...

I guess that doesn't really apply to you, since you've taken a week long break. I guess my point is, sometimes it's hard to keep motivation up!
Famehunter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada586 Posts
November 24 2009 21:27 GMT
#2156
On November 25 2009 04:02 travis wrote:
did anyone take a look at that powerbreathing thing i linked to?


read it damnit

Yeah I took a look at it but I'm not willing to try unless there's some sort of physician concensus that it is a good technique.

I may be wrong, but to me, this technique just sound like: How to kill brain cells while working abs.
Velox Versutus vigilans
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 24 2009 21:37 GMT
#2157
4x5 squats at 295 and 1x3 at 315
5x5 RDL at 265
Abs/core workout

followed by live sparring in judo for 50 minutes. All my muscles are jelly-like and shaking lol. Hope to start seeing some decent gains in strength and weight. Should probably make new goals:

By ~March 2010
Weight: 215
Squat: 400+
Bench: 300+
And a very solid core to go with it. Going to start going to an MMA gym in january or so so hopefully that will get me in good shape and solid as well as some fun ^_^
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
xJacky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
China375 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 01:33:12
November 24 2009 22:53 GMT
#2158
On November 23 2009 19:33 ZhenMiChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2009 09:06 xJacky wrote:
On November 22 2009 17:31 madnessman wrote:
wtf are my posts getting deleted? i swear i posted on this last night.

I had my first swim meet of the season yesterday. i did terrible but thats to be expected as it's the first week of the season, its a 50m pool (im used to 25m pools), and i didn't swim any of my normal events. what kind of a coach would hold swim team tryouts monday and tuesday, have a hard workout wednesday-friday, and send sends their swimmers to some US naval base for a swim meet? i know that i shouldn't expect myself to swim well so early in the season but swimming slowly sucks.

xjacky-how much do you weight now?


Ummm, I've grown like an inch or a bit more since that old pic, and i weigh around 175-180 now.

On November 22 2009 18:42 Art.FeeL wrote:
On November 22 2009 13:28 xJacky wrote:
:D i just wrote a blog about how fuckin awesome and happy i am cuz im workin out right now :D
Before:




wow, man what were you doing to get THAT! body, its awesome how you improved

I do home workouts as well as gym. but if want me to go into detail just post here or pm. haha.

btw guys im only a few months into 15.



i'd like details, you look amazing !

I've recently started focusing a lot more on shoulders/traps. But i mix and match my workouts, no strict order or anything like that. But this is a main thing of what i do almost everyday. And this is to my weight, which is around 175-180

Benchpress 145 lb.
4 sets of max reps. so for me, it usually goes from 15-12-12-10

Curls 50/40 Barbell
i do the thing where you do the bottom half 10 times, top half 10 times, and fully 10 times.
Twice with the 50, and twice/3 times with the 30.

Dumbell Military Press 40 lb each hand.
3 sets of 10

Shoulder Flys? (thing where you hold your hands by you holding a dumbell and you flap them like if you were a bird. xD)
15 lb. 20 times, follow with 10 lb. 10 times. Do that 3 times.
Works shoulders/traps great

I try to work my abs everyday at night.and this is my ab workout, in order.
Situp with a 10 lb weight behind head (20 reps)
Max rep situps till you get sorta tired.
15 Leg raises
Planks for one minute.
Do that 3 times and youll be pretty tired.

Hope you guys like it.

Love was supposed to be something women chased, not men. - Neil Strauss
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
November 24 2009 23:39 GMT
#2159
On November 25 2009 07:53 xJacky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2009 19:33 ZhenMiChan wrote:
On November 23 2009 09:06 xJacky wrote:
On November 22 2009 17:31 madnessman wrote:
wtf are my posts getting deleted? i swear i posted on this last night.

I had my first swim meet of the season yesterday. i did terrible but thats to be expected as it's the first week of the season, its a 50m pool (im used to 25m pools), and i didn't swim any of my normal events. what kind of a coach would hold swim team tryouts monday and tuesday, have a hard workout wednesday-friday, and send sends their swimmers to some US naval base for a swim meet? i know that i shouldn't expect myself to swim well so early in the season but swimming slowly sucks.

xjacky-how much do you weight now?


Ummm, I've grown like an inch or a bit more since that old pic, and i weigh around 175-180 now.

On November 22 2009 18:42 Art.FeeL wrote:
On November 22 2009 13:28 xJacky wrote:
:D i just wrote a blog about how fuckin awesome and happy i am cuz im workin out right now :D
Before:




wow, man what were you doing to get THAT! body, its awesome how you improved

I do home workouts as well as gym. but if want me to go into detail just post here or pm. haha.

btw guys im only a few months into 15.



i'd like details, you look amazing !

I've recently started focusing a lot more on shoulders/traps. But i mix and match my workouts, no strict order or anything like that. But this is a main thing of what i do almost everyday. And this is to my weight, which is around 175-180

Benchpress 145 lb.
4 sets of max reps. so for me, it usually goes from 15-12-12-10

Curls 50/40 Barbell
i do the thing where you do the bottom half 10 times, top half 10 times, and fully 10 times.
Twice with the 50, and twice/3 times with the 30.

Dumbell Military Press 40 lb each hand.
3 sets of 10

Shoulder Flys? (thing where you hold your hands by you holding a dumbell and you flap them like if you were a bird. xD)
15 lb. 20 times, follow with 10 lb. 10 times. Do that 3 times.

I try to work my abs everyday at night.and this is my ab workout, in order.
Situp with a 10 lb weight behind head (20 reps)
Max rep situps till you get sorta tired.
15 Leg raises
Planks for one minute.
Do that 3 times and youll be pretty tired.

Hope you guys like it.



I don't understand how you don't badly overtrain your abs working them every night. You must have really good genetics
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 25 2009 03:37 GMT
#2160
On November 25 2009 04:02 travis wrote:
did anyone take a look at that powerbreathing thing i linked to?


read it damnit


I didn't see it.

But have you seen this article? It's legit if it's the same thing.

http://concept2.co.uk/training/breathing
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